Frankie 8,151 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Proposing a new "National Stadium" for all sports seems okay on paper but when you stop to think if it is for all sports this would not make viewing any better.Athletics would need a running track,a long/triple jump pit,a high jump pit etc. so fans would be just as far away from the pitch. I think pitches/stands can be moved nowadays to remove/add distance where necessary. Although going by West Ham's experience with the Olympic Stadium, perhaps that's not necessarily a good thing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I think pitches/stands can be moved nowadays to remove/add distance where necessary. Although going by West Ham's experience with the Olympic Stadium, perhaps that's not necessarily a good thing. the whole pitch at Vitesse moves outside the stadium for more sunlight so it would be possible to do something like that for other sports. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,231 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What have the Welsh done?,created the "Millennium" out of the old Cardiff Arms Park.Is it used for any other sports other than football/rugby?. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Yes and if we want to be completely pedantic we would also need an 18 hole golf course, a ski slope and a mountain bike track. Let's be serious, if the Welsh can do it, surely we can come up with something better than we've got. Can you ski on the slope at Easter road? That would be a start. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,440 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What have the Welsh done?,created the "Millennium" out of the old Cardiff Arms Park.Is it used for any other sports other than football/rugby?. Cardiff Arms Park is still there, not unadjacent to the Principality Stadium (the Millennium). The Principality Stadium has a retractable roof, and is used for Football, RU, RL, boxing, concerts, and I've even seen limited overs cricket there. The renovation of Hampden was a disgrace for the money, which was not substantially below the cost of the Welsh ground. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,050 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Why would you knock down Murrayfield? Unless it was to use the site for a new stadium of course. But that wouldn't improve access, traffic management, parking, transport integration, etc any more than the current logistical nightmare of Hampden. It's a prime residential area the land would be worth a mint, flog it off or develop it and put the proceeds towards the SRU's share of a new National Stadium. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) What have the Welsh done?,created the "Millennium" out of the old Cardiff Arms Park.Is it used for any other sports other than football/rugby?. The Principality Stadium was not "created out of the old Cardiff Arms Park", which is still there. And yes, it is used for a whole raft of sporting and other events. With the benefit of a greenfield site and a little forethought, a new stadium here could be the centrepiece of a world class sporting complex. But that's impossible of course because a. It's not Hampden b. It's not in Glasgow c. It's ... well it's ... different ... and ambitious d. We're really just small-minded people in a small-minded country Edited October 31, 2017 by Bill 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrheadboy 16 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cardiff Arms Park is still there, not unadjacent to the Principality Stadium (the Millennium). The Principality Stadium has a retractable roof, and is used for Football, RU, RL, boxing, concerts, and I've even seen limited overs cricket there. The renovation of Hampden was a disgrace for the money, which was not substantially below the cost of the Welsh ground. As I remember the Hampden refurbishment was done for a very small amount £5 million if my memory serves me well. That old bar steward Thatcher.jumped in and stopped any government assistance so SFA had to,do on the cheap,unlike the billions Wembley managed to spend 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,050 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 As I remember the Hampden refurbishment was done for a very small amount £5 million if my memory serves me well.That old bar steward Thatcher.jumped in and stopped any government assistance so SFA had to,do on the cheap,unlike the billions Wembley managed to spend Your memory fails you. IIRC it was circa £70m and got circa £25m of lottery money, for that amount of cash it's an utter shithole. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 As I remember the Hampden refurbishment was done for a very small amount £5 million if my memory serves me well.That old bar steward Thatcher.jumped in and stopped any government assistance so SFA had to,do on the cheap,unlike the billions Wembley managed to spend With respect, I don't think we can blame this one on Thatcher. Here's what Wiki says... After the cancellation of the annual Scotland v England fixture in 1989, questions were raised as to whether Scottish football required a separate national stadium.[55] Rangers proposed Ibrox as an alternative venue, while Murrayfield was about to be redeveloped without public funding.[52][55][57] None of these arguments impressed the National Stadium committee, which consisted of the SFA, Scottish Football League and Queen's Park.[55] The West Terrace was converted to seating in 1991 for only £700,000, but this left two terraces and therefore disqualified Hampden from hosting FIFA World Cup qualification matches.[55] The UK Government eventually provided a grant of £3.5 million in 1992, which allowed work to begin on a £12 million project to convert Hampden into an all-seater stadium.[51][55][58] The last match played in front of the sloping terraces was the 1992 Scottish League Cup Final.[56] Within a year, the east and west ends of the ground had been replaced and the partially rebuilt Hampden was re-opened for a friendly match between Scotland and Netherlands on 23 March 1994.[55] It was then also used for the later stages of the 1993–94 Scottish Cup competition.[59] As the capacity of the old South Stand had been limited to 4,500, the total capacity of Hampden had been reduced to approximately 37,000.[55] With Celtic Park also undergoing extensive redevelopment to become all-seater, Celtic spent the 1994–95 season groundsharing at Hampden, at a cost of £500,000 rent.[60] The final stage of the renovation began in November 1997, with its £59 million cost funded by the National Lottery.[52][35][61] There was a cost overrun[52] and a fraud squad investigated alleged financial irregularities.[62] The South Stand was replaced and the stadium was re-opened for the 1999 Scottish Cup Final.[63] The ground now has a capacity of 51,866.[1] Queen's Park retained ownership of the ground, with the SFA holding a lease due to run until 2020.[64] 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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