European Super League | All six PL teams withdraw from ESL

[craig 5,195]

On 19/04/2021 at 11:42, ian1964 said:

He backtracked on this later.....

[craig 5,195]

On 19/04/2021 at 12:45, Biblio said:

It annoys me to see the likes of Gary Neville doing his moral grandstanding bit. This is a man who bought EFL status for Salford City by distorting the playing field in which they were competing against other non-league clubs. How is this proposed ESL any different to what he did, other than in scale? I don't lie the idea of a ESL but part of me would love to see the back of clubs who have showed no concern for the welfare of the sport at all over the last few decades.

lol. Salford won promotion ON the pitch, where it is supposed to be won.  They did it the traditional way.  They also can still be relegated from such.

 

This new proposal prevents 12 clubs from ever being removed from its league structure.

[ChelseaBoy 2,232]

Stop Press......

 

BBC Sport understands that Chelsea are preparing documentation to request withdrawing from the European Super League.

[ChelseaBoy 2,232]

Pat Nevin.....

I'm not even mildly surprised that Chelsea have pulled out.

I said yesterday morning that I didn't think they wanted to get on that train, but didn't want to get left at the station.

[craig 5,195]

On 19/04/2021 at 12:46, ChelseaBoy said:

Can't see that happening. FFP was their shot at that and it didnt work. Through the decades there have been clubs that have had more disposible income through investment or benefactors than others. In the 30's it was Arsenal.  Sunderland were once called the "The Bank of England" club back in the late 40s. Man Utd used to buy every good striker each season in the 70's and 80's and Liverpool had the Littlewoods Pools family behind them during the same period. Blackburn had access to funds in the early 90s and other clubs like Everton and Newcastle have spent the last few years trying to secure new onwers with funds, with Everton succeeding recently.   

 

What you cannot have is the tail wagging the dog, so i would stipulate that clubs (all clubs) are part of the cultural fabric of the area they operate in and have the governing bodies and governments/local authorities grant clubs special status that prevents any new owners from acting in a way that harms the supporters or the club. If it is a governing body sanctioned competition then fine, if not then the rules should prevent them taking part.

 

We have to ensure the mainly american owners understand that European football isn't built on a franchise model and never will be. MK Dons withstanding.  

Where is this notion coming from ?

 

Chelsea, City, Spurs, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico, Inter, Juventus are all owned by non-Americans

 

Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal & AC Milan are owned by US businessmen.

 

Where is the "mainly American" nonsense coming from ?

[craig 5,195]

22 hours ago, Scott7 said:

Klopp trying to work his ticket to parkhead to manage his boyhood heroes.

Aye, his brother, Klippity Klopp

[ChelseaBoy 2,232]

3 minutes ago, craig said:

Where is this notion coming from ?

 

Chelsea, City, Spurs, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico, Inter, Juventus are all owned by non-Americans

 

Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal & AC Milan are owned by US businessmen.

 

Where is the "mainly American" nonsense coming from ?

Was talking UK specific, i.e. Arsenal, Utd, Liverpool

[craig 5,195]

3 hours ago, ChelseaBoy said:

Not forgetting the Welsh clubs operating in the English league pyramid. Personally i would love to see Rangers play in the EFL/PL at whatever level they start leaving Sellick to be the biggish fish in a tiny pond. I don't want the EFL to invite them and would hope they would refuse based on their hostility to all things British. 

 

Unfortunately, those clubs are second level appeal in terms of audiences for BT Sport. A Fenerbache v Anderlect would not cover the cost of televising it. 

That suggestion is a red herring because the Welsh clubs have been in the English system since before UEFA were even formed.  UEFA now control the game in Europe - those Welsh teams were effectively grandfathered into the current position.

 

As for Rangers playing in England and Celtic remaining in Scotland - absolutely ZERO chance of that happening.  If we go, they will go with us, and vice versa

[Franc Ergs 1,351]

Anyway, looks like Man City and Chelsea are both pulling out , so, ...last one off the bus is a pariah.

 

 

[craig 5,195]

8 minutes ago, ChelseaBoy said:

Was talking UK specific, i.e. Arsenal, Utd, Liverpool

You do realise that 3 out of 6 isnt "mainly" ?  - yep, it is the accountant in me mate