compo 8,211 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Talk in some quarters of Frank Lampard fingers crossed that's all it is . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,267 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:11, stewarty said: Reading a couple of posters saying that Dutch Managers don't tend to travel well outside of Holland. Off the top of my head, i can think of the following who all had more than reasonable levels of success out with their home nation. - Rijkaard - Koeman - Cruyff - Advocaat - Van Gaal - Hiddink Not suggesting that this is the level we are shopping for, and for every Cruyff there's a Martin Jol, but I'm not sure I'm buying this argument. @Sutton_blows_goats @Rousseau Expand Yes, good names, but their success comes either in the Netherlands or Barcelona - which, thanks to Cruyff, is basically Dutch in terms of the players and set-up at their disposal. Koeman didn't win much outside the Netherlands. (He had Southampton doing well, but that was on the back of Pochettino's work, IMO.) Hiddink is a good manager, but again didn't actually win much outside the Netherlands. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 This article will resonate with several of this pointing to the structural problems at Rangers Four Lads Had A Dream 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:11, stewarty said: Reading a couple of posters saying that Dutch Managers don't tend to travel well outside of Holland. Off the top of my head, i can think of the following who all had more than reasonable levels of success out with their home nation. - Rijkaard - Koeman - Cruyff - Advocaat - Van Gaal - Hiddink Not suggesting that this is the level we are shopping for, and for every Cruyff there's a Martin Jol, but I'm not sure I'm buying this argument. @Sutton_blows_goats @Rousseau Expand They all needed one thing ..... very large sums of money to spend. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:19, compo said: Talk in some quarters of Frank Lampard fingers crossed that's all it is . Expand Oh Christ NO. Bennett wouldn't be that stupid, would he. He'd be as well re-signing Aaron James Ramsey. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,143 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:20, Rousseau said: Yes, good names, but their success comes either in the Netherlands or Barcelona - which, thanks to Cruyff, is basically Dutch in terms of the players and set-up at their disposal. Koeman didn't win much outside the Netherlands. (He had Southampton doing well, but that was on the back of Pochettino's work, IMO.) Hiddink is a good manager, but again didn't actually win much outside the Netherlands. Expand Fair enough. I just wouldn't rule out a Dutch Manager, is all. Nor would I go looking for one specifically. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,143 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:23, Bill said: They all needed one thing ..... very large sums of money to spend. Expand Not an uncommon trait in Managers though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:37, stewarty said: Not an uncommon trait in Managers though. Expand No, you're right but that crutch won't be available at Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny3k 901 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Lampard is a failure, there is no way to dress up any of his managerial spells in any other way. I'd be very surprised if he was even being considered 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 2,143 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 03/10/2023 at 09:40, Bill said: No, you're right but that crutch won't be available at Rangers. Expand Nor has it been since Advocaat… which underlines your point in fairness. A good manager can get the best from the available resources. Arguably another Dutchman in Gio did that with the UEL final run. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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