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  1. Union City Blue
    I think their squad can only improve tbh, they were absolutely SHITE last season, really dire. I honestly don't think (based on everything i've seen of the wee runt) that wee aids is worth any more than �£2-3m, I honestly don't. It remains to be seen if all this �£8m stuff is agent/paper talk or not.
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    Brilliant idea, well done to the club and to the Assembly for helping to promote it.
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    Has anybody seen anything to suggest the opposite? Slagging Walter on this is unfair IMHO. He's telling us we are being priced out of the market for reasons which we're all familiar with by now. The fact that the guy signed a new deal after winning some concessions is to his credit but nobody ever said the concessions were going to be enough - especially if celtic start to properly improve their squad, which the seem to be trying to do. Until we get a change of ownership and some new investment we'll be looking at Bosman's and cheapies. I don't think anything could be clearer.
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    Oh well, that's that then. The viewers can decide.
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    Crap answer. Avoids the points we are directly discussing. FAIL.
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    I'm glad he's getting a go at a big club - I like him as a manager. Like Curbishley and Redknapp, the only way to see is to be given the chance. I think he'll do well.
  7. Union City Blue
    Fantastic! 1) AJ has never, ever, ever commented on the bank's requirements regarding a sale. You are talking about the wrong thing, which has nothing to do with what I'd said. 2) In any event, RFC has a substantial credit facility as well as a loan. It is this - as I (and others) have explained before - that is reviewed periodically and is what the bank has been trying to squeeze - not the long term loan, which everyone agrees is/was perfectly servicable. However, they wanted the O/S overdraft paid in full, and the loan too. They wanted cash and they wanted out. They called the shots. That is why they took a �£150m stake in Murray's business from him and why the sale price for RFC was so low. 3) There is no publicity downside for the bank effectively blocking a deal if this news is never disclosed or discussed in the media i.e. in this case. It was simply one of several reasons why Ellis never went ahead. He couldn't afford to take them out completely, pay Murray a reasonable amount and invest in the club. So it didn't work on either side. My conclusion, I'm afraid, is that you don't really know what you're taking about (maybe your grandson's stopped taking your calls?) and consequently, you are talking .. well ... erm... BOLLOX!
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    Funny. I made a statement then I explained it. All you've done is say "nonsense", "bollox" and "bollox". Please can you explain what the bank DID actually want then? Thanks.
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    I made a statement. You told everyone it was nonsense. I explained my statement. You told me I was talking bollox. I said "whatever". Not much for folks to worry about, if indeed they care!
  10. Union City Blue
    Yeah, whatever.
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    It isn't nonsense - at least not as far as the Ellis deal was concerned. They wanted to be taken out completely. It's hardly surprising - it's a variation of what they did with the �£150m debt for equity swap in MIH, the only difference being that they would then sell Rangers to Ellis, because they don't want to own a football club. Before you start pasting in stock market text, I'm not saying LBG currently "owns" Rangers' equity. Anyway, it's all water under the bridge now so it doesn't really matter. Whether or not LBG's 'call' on Rangers has changed, and to what extent, I honestly don't know.
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    Viable finance is probably upwards of �£45m. Huge money. Nobody will raise that or anything like it without incurring significant costs and (hopefully) producing a viable, sellable business plan. You won't be able to produce a business plan without doing DD (end even then you might not). You won't get to do DD without first having huge money. The entry fee is believed to be �£33m. Suggesting that this is not being done because people are trying to hold onto perceived power (what power btw?) is absolutely staggering. We don't believe that it's possible to buy the club, invest and cover potential liabilities purely as a result of grass-roots fund-building, at the moment. As frustrating and inconvenient as that is, that's what we believe. That's why different approaches are favoured i.e. selling the idea that the Rangers support at large will be happy to partner with credible buyers and will put in a lot of money. As soon as they're ready, we're good to go and - to a man - they all know that. The right man with the right plan will enjoy massive support from the RST (whether you believe that matters or not) and hopefully everyone else. Of course, the Trust - being a Trust - will try to advance the case for part-ownership in return for supporter investment, and with it a meaningful way for structures to be put in place whereby people can be openly and democratically elected by all other supporters to serve on the Board of the club. Anybody we've spoken to has an assumption that Rangers fans will can be viewed 'as one' and will pull together if required. This is undoubtedly true if we all like what we hear and no exaggerated talk of divisions amongst the support will get in the way of that. Any positive vision presented by credible people with access to the required money could go right over the heads of any fans groups and directly to the supporters via the mass media - although they will no doubt hope for and appreciate backing; and if we all like it, we'll quickly remember that we're all on the same side. There is an argument that fans should raise money first, but until there is an indication that this is welcome and fits in with something that is achievable and desirable overall, what is the point in fans raising �£10m or whatever when you don't know what you'd do with it? If there's some movement elsewhere, maybe things will happen. Souness, Gough, Numan, McColl, Gordon Smith, Park, King and anyone else you care to mention feel the same way and that's why we don't all have the types of people we need fronting it right now. It all needs to fit together. There are significant systemic and structural problems associated with buying and enabling RFC to thrive and prosper. The HMRC issue is one of them and LBG's insistance that they are settled in full is another. Rocket science, it isn't. But with so many 'players' and complications involved its proved to be more difficult to resolve than anyone has been able to handle so far. That included Lloyds, Johnston, Muir, Murray, Park, King, Ellis and anybody else for that matter. Having said all that, I still believe it'll happen at some point and I'm still hopeful that the Rangers support will be able to become meaningfully involved in the club, to whatever extent it wishes to be. Still working on it. * this particular post doesn't seek to address structural issues within the Rangers support or fans' groups because the particular scenario I'm discussing assumes they will be largely irrelevant.
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    No, I don't suppose it does actually. Resignation has never crossed my mind tbh and I don't think it would send out the right signals or achieve anything. Do you?
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    I definitely don't believe the RST should resign from the Assembly. I believe they should be more actively collaborative, not less.
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    Perhaps 'accountability' is an issue where members could provide some input or ideas if Board members are felt to be unaccountable? Improved communication would be a priority and we've made some progress but we need to try to make much more. As for overcoming issues........ well it's a process isn't it? It would be good if we could all first agree on what the issues actually are and see if there's a will to resolve them. It would be difficult for me to describe what I believe the issues are on here without first raising them formally with others, which I haven't done yet. This is exactly the type of thing that needs to be done now that a chapter has closed (i.e. the Ellis etc period) and I believe it will be. For me, the bottom line is that I don't believe the support is divided, but it is definitely fragmented and un-coordinated. We should work out how to fix that IMHO.
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    maineflyer - you neither offend me, upset me, or make me cry. Seriously, you don't. You're rude but you don't care, so it's not my problem. Anyway..... I'm well aware of what fans' groups have and haven't achieved, particularly the RST. And I'm well aware that fresh impetus and change is required. You happen to believe that nobody who's currently involved has any single attribute other than having tried. I disagree. So sorry to disappoint you, but I intend to carry on. Now if you'd stop asking me to resign we can maybe move onto more productive ground?
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    Frankie. I can't really comment on the Assembly's constitutional position without first discussing it with the guys in the Assembly. All I can say is that from where I'm sitting I believe it is fundamentally and inherently subservient, and therefore inadaquate. The RST's constitution is not a major issue in my eyes so I'd like to ask what's behind the question? In terms of member participation, the biggest obstacle is time and resources but there is a genuine will (backed by initiatives) to enable people to become more involved, as plgsarmy has indicated by use of examples. The bigger issue for me though, is getting into the mainstream with a credible, deliverable package. That's where I'm personally focussed right now but I have to say the environment is complex and it's going to be very challenging to piece all the necessary building-blocks together. It simply has to be done though, there is no other option. If mr. flyer wants a better quality of response he only has to stop being overly dramatic and rude. But he already knows that.
  18. Union City Blue
    Stilll can't believe Kaka's red card.
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    maineflyer. I can't be arsed with you when you're in this kind if mood. I bet you could light up a room just by walking out of it.
  20. Union City Blue
    :ffs: Now, that completely misrepresents anything I ever said which is bit of a low blow. I said I hoped to contribute and make a difference, nothing more. Anyway, as you say its not about me so it'd be best best if you dropped that angle because its going nowhere and you have no knowledge of what I've done or haven't done as an individual. I'm fully aware that you don't have any time for me or everybody else associated with the RST. Your contempt pre-dates my involvement and although it remains to this day, no words I write on this forum will make a blind bit of difference to that. You don't like words, you like action. Fine, so do I, so let's get on with it.
  21. Union City Blue
    Ouch! I hate it when you go so long without launching missiles in my direction, I should really post more often! On that note, you have a disturbing habit of reaching for a machine gun when a pistol would do (not that I'm suggesting any colleagues should actually be shot btw, even if you might be open to the idea in principal!)
  22. Union City Blue
    Constructive criticism is being noted and absorbed mate. To be slightly fair on a personal level mind you, fans groups and the people involved in them are also being directly and openly criticised for failure and generally speaking, the RST - despite being the smallest and most committed group - is taking the brunt of it (not particularly in the OP on this thread btw). Sometimes public criticism is hard to take, so people bite back - I suppose that's just life and nobody's perfect. I think most people will be more reflective when it matters.
  23. Union City Blue
    Fancy a role going forward? I was thinking maybe as a motivational speaker. :devil:
  24. Union City Blue
    Speaking as an individual here, I think the first priority is to try to get a meeting arranged and to get a further understanding of how the land now lies at the club. AJ, Muir, LBG, MIH etc. More strategically, my view is that there should ideally be some form of consolidation of approach and priorities amongst the fans groups. Whether that's possible or not I don't know yet but I believe this should be the aim. Following on, I would like to see the 'Trust movement' move into the type of ground occupied at Newcastle which has widespread support and significant financial backing. I'm painfully aware that this is far easier to say than do, but anything else seems to me to be lightweight. On the plus side, there are some building blocks in place already and I genuinely don't believe its an insurmountable task. These are the things I'd like to start socialising and promoting, but there will need to be talks first to see if and how everyone can pool our resources and what people believe is achievable. Can't necessarily comment on everything but would be interested in everyone's thoughts.
  25. Union City Blue
    Is it normal for a club to use an agent to talk to another agent when a player is in contract? Is this how it works?
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