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Miller has tried very hard but clearly no longer has the sharpness in front of goal that he had in 2010-11. Boyd has been a complete embarrassment to himself and the Club. Boyd in particular missed a barrow load of chances early in the season and continues to be powder puff in front of goal. To blame others is just nonsense.

No it won't be; it's worth too much money to the Clubs at the bottom especially.

That's not correct, it is purely and simply a money making exercise.

OK I have found the SPL numbers from 2012 when it was proposed to have just two divisons of 10 and the rest would be divided into S&W and N&E leagues including colt teams. Every club below the top two divsions were to get £50,000, which was status quo for some and obviously a lot for some of the minnows. The top two in the SPL were to get £2.75m and £2.42m respectively which was approx 35% of the Premiership kitty and about 28% of the entire pool. These figures were reductions on the existing figures. Again from memory it was taking about a million off the top and redistributing it cascading down so that 10th in the SPL was to get £892k. The championship top team was to get £510k, second £450k down to 150k for the bottom club. The parachute payment was to be £250k each of two teams. The teams finishing 8th and 9th in the SPL were to benefit from keeping the play-off monies anticipated to be about £50,000 to £100,000 each. Obviously this reconstruction proposal did not go through but it will give you some idea of the figures. The total available was a bit under £19m of which the TV money was £80m over 5 years and variously reported as £13m-£15m per season. It was also reported that the SPL lost £17m of the deal when Rangers went into the SFL who did a £1.2m deal for their clubs. I may be able to find more on the pre 2012 figures.

From memory all the Clubs in the bottom division get a flat £50,000. That was certainly the position up to 2012, my recollection is that it did not increase but it may have gone up a little.

Leaving aside any specific reasons why Rangers might not get any (which I don't know about) broadly speaking the TV money and any sponsorship or commercial deals money all goes into one big pot and is divided up according to the league placings at the end of the season. The top 2 in the SPL get by far the lion's share because it was always anticipated to be Rangers and Celtic and this was one way of persauding the old firm not to impose their own deals on the rest. From memory, the top two got something like 35% -40% of the total but the share out became slightly fairer in 2012 with the bottom club getting a parchute payment. I'll try to find the figures.

I am working on the basis that the dinner will be on the 16th or 23rd of May as per the discussion in the “dates” thread and that the venue should be in the proximity of Ibrox Stadium. I suggested that apart from Malaga Tapas, we could consider the Sherbrooke Hotel, Bellahouston Hotel, The Balcony Cafe, Punjab Indian Restaurant, Bella Fresca all on PRW, House for an Art Lover on Dumbreck and Bella Vita on Mosspark Blvd. Based on comments from BD I have discounted the two hotels and House for an Art Lover. The Balcony Café closes at 6.00pm on a Saturday and Bella Vita are not interested in our size of party “as it slows their kitchen"! I spoke to Malaga Tapas and visited Indian Brasserie (formerly Punjab Indian) and Bella Fresca on Saturday after the match. Bella Fresca This Italian Restaurant is situated at 2093 Paisley Road West, Glasgow G52 3JH, between Berryknowes Road and Sandwood Road, just over 2 miles from Ibrox Stadium. Without traffic it would be less than a 10 minute drive but in after match traffic it could easily take 20 minutes or more. It is currently rated #56 of 1,943 Restaurants in Glasgow with 4½ stars (from 123 reviews) according to Tripadvisor. The most recent review is headlined “Good food but a bit cramped”. http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186534-d3445440-Reviews-Bella_Fresca-Glasgow_Scotland.html It was very busy when I visited at 6.30pm on Saturday; there was hardly a space in the 50-seater sitting area. They could offer us bench seating for 18-20 on the right hand side and additional tables for 6-12 people. We might be able to have a quiz but we would not be able to have a guest speaker at this location. They have a set dinner menu which currently features: Starters: Minestrone Soup; Chicken Liver Pate; Calamari, Bruschetta, etc. Mains: Pizza Margherita with one topping; Lasagne; Penne Pasta with Goat’s Cheese and Vegetables or olives, capers and anchovies; Mushroom & Truffle Risotto; Garlic Chicken; Linguine with crumbled Italian Sausage; Gnocchi with smoked ham. Dessert: Tiramasu or Ice Cream The cost would be £13.95 per person, which is exactly as per the printed menu with no concession for numbers. Therefore, in order to cover the cost of a guest (if invited), we would probably charge £15 per person. However, if we started at 5.30pm they would want the tables back by 7.30pm. Indian Brasserie (formerly Punjab Indian Restaurant) This Indian Restaurant is situated at 560 Paisley Road West, Glasgow G51 1RF, less than 10 minutes walk from Ibrox Stadium, 30 yards from the junction of Copland Road and Paisley Road West. It is currently rated #841 of 1,943 Restaurants in Glasgow with 4 stars (which is perhaps unfair because there are only 4 reviews) according to Tripadvisor. The most recent review is headlined “Best Meal Everrrrrrrrrrrrrr” http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186534-d4924992-Reviews-Punjab_Indian_Restaurant-Glasgow_Scotland.html The restaurant seats 32 with one bench that would accommodate a maximum 15/16 and the rest in tables of 2/4. There was only one couple dining when I visited at 5.30pm on Saturday. The restaurant changed hands about a year ago but the current owner states that the Punjabi chef has been in post for 20 years. Spiced poppadoms will be provided as we gather. They would then offer a Chefs Platter of Starters consisting of: Mixed Pakora; Chicken Chaat, Aloo Tikki, Seekh Kebaba and Chicken Tikka. We would then have a free choice from the full a la carte menu featuring: tandoori chicken, lamb, king prawns etc; and a full range of cooked to order in-house specials including Korma, Bhoona, Biryani, Chasni, Jaipuri, Masala, Nashli, Malaidar, Shakuti, Rogan Josh, Balti, Patia, Dhansac etc. European dishes are available if required. Nan bread, chapattis and boiled rice as required. A variety of Desserts will be offered including the traditional Indian hot Gulab Jamin with ice cream. The owner will close the restaurant for us (up to 9.00pm) if we can bring at least 20 people. Therefore we can have a guest speaker at this venue. The price for all of the above will be £9.95 per person which is the same as their pre-theatre menu but these will be full a la carte portions whereas the pre-theatre is normally smaller portions and our deal includes the desserts which are priced normally at £2.95-£3.95. Therefore in order to cover the cost of one guest, we would probably charge £10.75 or £11.00 per person. Malaga Tapas This Spanish restaurant has been the venue for the first two Gersnet Dinners. It is situated at 213-215 St. Andrews Rd, Glasgow G41 1PD at the junction of Shields Road and St Andrews Drive. It is about 2.5 miles from Ibrox via Dumbreck and Nithsdale Road. This has proven to be the quickest route although it can be difficult to get on to Dumbreck, once there the traffic flows freely post match; approximately 15-20 minutes drive. It is currently rated #27 of 1,943 Restaurants in Glasgow with 4½ stars (from 350 reviews) according to Tripadvisor. The most recent review is headlined “Authentic Spanish food.” http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186534-d1087980-Reviews-Malaga_Tapas-Glasgow_Scotland.html The first dinner was held in the main restaurant but for the second we had private use of the café next door. However, it should be noted that this has now been rented out so that we would be accommodated in the main 60-seater restaurant whatever the size of our party. Therefore we would be able to have a quiz but we would not be able to have a guest speaker on this occasion at this location. All the other arrangements will be the same as last time. The price of the dinner itself will remain at £18.00. Therefore, in order to cover the cost of a guest (if invited), the final price will be £19.50. The dinner price really only covers the standard Malaga Tapas deal, which is for 3 tapas per person and a dessert of your choice; however, in our case it will include a primer plato of meats and bread and choice of paellas after the tapas. Again, as last time there will be at least 6 different tapas, x3 per person and three different paellas. Tapas selections will be from the menu http://malagatapas.co.uk/menu/. This was our menu last time. Pescado en Adobo Gambas al Pil-Pil Morcilla Española (Cristobal would like folk to be aware that Spanish black pudding is not the same as the Scottish variety) Chorizo frito al vino tinto Pisto Manchego Bravas con salsa Picante & a’li-oli Croquetas de Pollo Pollo a la Crema There will be two large paellas one Montana (chicken and dry-cured chorizo), one Paella de Mariscos (seafood Paella with prawns, mussels squid and white fish) and one standard size vegetarian. You can have your choice from any dessert on the blackboard but the crème catalan (Spanish crème brulee) fired at the table, is a favourite. Please vote in the poll provided and/or post any comments in this thread. The poll will be open from 7 days from today.

Ibrox branch?

Since no one has stepped up to the plate in terms of organising a dinner on the 25th of April, I am working on the assumption that the date will be either the 16th or 23rd of May, as previously discussed. Perhaps the tide is now swinging our way although we appear to have slightly the more difficult run in than Hibs, there might be gounds for some very cautious optimism about finishing 2nd and therefore playing on the 23rd. I did some restaurant research yesterday and will put up a poll for venue later today.

If they are confident of their case, that won't happen,

Is this not regarded as "trolling", a yellow card from this ref anyway.

If Newcastle knew that he had a serious long term illness whether or not that would prevent him playing in Scotland then surely that would be enough to repudiate the contract; buyer beware must stop somewhere. Without doubt Llambias at least is at fault for sanctioning the signings of all five players without medicals and should be held to account.

Under the OBA they can act if the offensive behaviour is in relation to a regulated football match which is one where Scotland or a Scottish Club is involved.

Just to be clear since I am no longer authorised that was not ADVICE to buy Rangers shares it was just an explanatory comment!

If there are two separate issues here why would a failure to deal with Guidetti make it "open season for the fans"? Chris Graham was not an employee of Rangers so there is no comparison with Guidetti.

The shares are currently suspended but assuming we get a new nomad and they are traded again then almost certainly it would be cheaper to buy some in the open market and then take up your rights at a likely lower price in the offer. The answer to your question depends on the prices and how the rights are offered, as BD pulled me up for recently it is not necessarily 1 for 1. Perhaps if you bought around 1000 say for £350 if the price is as last traded and it was a 1 for 2 offer then you might get another 500 for say £125-£150. But at £500 total the differences are marginal.

Does the job come with the official Gersnet Clipboard ( or do you have to bring your own) ? It's my clipboard, get your own

I appreciate that you try to strike a balance in all your posts but I am very surprised to find you defending this unacceptable behaviour for any reason. Furthermore, I disagree that it has crept back in because of double standards. I didn't hear anyone singing or otherwise referring to Guidetti at Easter Road. All I heard was some mindless idiots shouting FTP for no apparent reason as well as singing about f***** blood. I would be far happier if a person such as yourself who is in a position to influence others simply came out with a clear condemnation of such actions rather than trying to justify them on the grounds of what others do and lack of action against them by the authorities. That is no excuse for misbehaviour by our fans in my book.

Yes, if it's a rights issue. But it seems to me that between £10m and £14m (implying a price between 25p and 35p) and isn't nearly enough for the next two seasons. They may need a new open share issue as well. Interesting that when I believe King said he had one lined up?

I agree with you about high standards and wasn't suggesting otherwise. Rangers Football Club and its supporters should always maintain the highest standards of behaviour on and off the field of play. Listening to the bile from a small but very vocal group that surrounded me at Easter Road made me sick, it didn't make me proud to be a Rangers fan.

People in glass houses and all that. Once we eradicate unacceptbale behaviour from our ranks we can take the moral high ground.

Actually a trip to a Malaga home game is not such a bad idea, it wouldn't be too difficult to arrange.

This is all true but you would need to find a new organiser as I will be out of the country from the 10th to the 30th of April. I think but am not certain that I posted this earlier. However, it is not an isssue for me, so if the majority think that the 25th of April is the best date and someone wants to step up to the organising plate, feel free to go ahead.

I only referred to the RST in this connection because there is no use making statements about alleged sectarian behaviour by employees of other Clubs at the same time ignoring the embarrassing conduct of our own fans, albeit a minority but a very vocal minority at that. A well known and influential former (I think) member of the RST Board was standing just in front of me at the match so must have heard what was going on. FoCUS were at the match and filming. They have not been so much in evidence in recent times but assuredly will be back in numbers with increasing frequency if this type of behaviour continues.

Going back to the OP, I would like to see a statement from the RST decrying the increasing incidence of songs including FTP and f***** blood that have crept back into use in recent months and were particularly evident on Easter Road both before and after the match and inside the ground on Sunday. I would like to see the RST condemn such behaviour that brings Rangers Football Club into disrepute and remind all its fans that they are ambassadors for the Club wherever and whenever we travel.