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My gran wasn't too impressed with Colin Stein. Nothing to do with the player himself of course, but everything to do with the grandson who muddied himself on her back green in Anniesland trying to emulate the great man's latest goal every Saturday. The following day being Sunday, there was no way she would take her grandson to church looking anything less than respectful and appropriate for The Lord's House. So the breeks were hand washed in the big kitchen sink, scrubbed at the knees with a scrubbing brush before being rinsed, and then wrung out on the huge brass taps. Depending on the weather they were either then hung out on the verandah, allowing the employees of Barr and Stroud, the factory directly across from my grandmother's tenement, to know that Colin Stein's young protégée was in residence. In the event of inclement weather, an extra lump of coal was placed on the fire and the trousers placed on a screen nearby. Nowadays of course they would be straight into the washing machine and then the tumble dryer - Sorted. Often we take for granted the things which makes life's journey far more comfortable or enjoyable. Having them taken away for whatever reason can leave us with the prospect of having to do things as in days gone by, a fact I was reminded of that recently. Rumour reached me that our supporters bus, The Monifieth Loyal, had folded leaving me facing the prospect of a long solitary drive, to and from Ibrox drive every other week. (The fact that it would also mean an abstention from alcohol on match days was a minor matter. Honestly) It was not something I relished having discovered the considerable benefits of the local supporters bus. It was relief to read a few days later on Twitter that the rumours were totally unfounded and it was business as usual. Whilst supporter's buses may be an alternative form of transport for those of us who can drive, for others they are the only form of transport available. For those in our community who are less than firm, less than able, the supporters bus with it's unique and personalised stops and pick ups is often the margin of success in them overcoming insurmountable difficulties. The sight of the infirm and disabled overcoming the cruel hand life has dealt them to watch their beloved Rangers, is one which is truly inspiring. Then of course there is the “social” aspect of the bus. Yesterday at Gayfield I bumped into and old friend of mine I hadn’t seen for years who promptly introduced me to members and organisers of his bus. Let's just say every one of them were in particularly high spirits, I would imagine the crack on the bus home would have been worth the admission money alone. But it goes further than this. For those of who through work or other commitments have been forced to leave the mother nest of Glasgow for pastures new, the supporter's bus brings together a network of exiles who otherwise may have been strangers to one another, and the many considerable benefits which that brings. The local supporter's bus offers many benefits, financial, friendship, social networking, information, opinions and convenience to name but a few. If you currently don’t travel via one I would encourage you to try it. You will soon find it is not one of life's luxuries, after a few experience you place it in the “essentials” category - and there will be no going back to “the old ways”.
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Couldn't agree more - up till the last 2 paragraphs the points raised are issues which all Rangers fans could identify with. But puerile digs and contentious side shows as contained in the last 2 paragraphs detract from what would have been an extremely powerful statement all our support could identify with,
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It was more, much more than just sheer panic. Panic is fleeting but not this, no, this was a slow, and painful realisation that as the prophets had warned, "all things must come to pass". It was ominous, akin to an approaching thunderstorm, the distant peels of thunder sounding like a gong warning of foreboding. And the air, the air was pungent with a strange aroma invading their senses refusing them any kind of respite, forcing them reluctantly into an acceptance of the inevitable - the more astute amongst them recognised it, but dare not speak its name. It was the smell of fear. Then one of them did the unthinkable, took a journey into land of the forbidden, uttering the three little words which sent waves of anxiety through them all. “Rangers are coming” And indeed we are. The chains which bound us to our Elbaesque exile in Scotland's lower leagues have been shattered and broken, along with the schemes and plots designed to leave us in the wilderness. It was not a thirst for glory nor prestige which broke the yoke that bound us, but an unstinting sense of loyalty and commitment to a football club – it proved to be a characteristic of the Rangers support which our enemies could not overcome. In the years to come the Rangers support of this generation will be recorded as some of the club's greatest servants. Ever. It's not hard to de-cipher that we are on our way back. The inflammatory language has been re-kindled, along with the almost obligatory “conspiracy theories”. Irrational comment has replaced sensible discussion, Rangers are being blamed and held responsible for the decisions made by others . As Dundee United and Aberdeen supporters organise a boycott of Ibrox food stalls for their forthcoming visits, we Rangers fans wait for the media proponents of “Forgive, forget and move on” to lecture others the way they lectured us. I suspect we will be waiting for a long time. I also suspect that being merciful or magnanimous will no longer be part of our make up – we have not forgotten those who swung a kick whilst we were down. Dundee United experienced it with the Tannadice boycott, and as they ran squealing to the SFA about our club refusing tickets a rude awakening awaited them. Football authorities can do nothing about how our support choose to spend the blue pound. Only we control that. It's a fact worthy of more considered thought. It has been a long and arduous journey at times, which of course is not yet completed, but we are well on our way. Along the road there have been fall outs, rifts and unpleasantry. But even these pale into significance at the sense of unity, the sense of purpose in restoring our club. Even that which is less edifying has at it's heart the same passion which drives our support to achieve what others would consider impossible. We should all rejoice in that passion we share - our club exists because of it. For those for whom these 3 little words are unpalatable, I will say them again. “Rangers are coming”. Along with 3 more little words. “Hell mend you”
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Oh I dont know about that bud... Can you imagine trying to explain to an alien that this fractured support with all the petty infighting are meant to be on the same side ? As Spock would say..."Illogical Captain"
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Frankie another excellent article in a long line of sensible and balanced commentaries during this difficult time.
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Well that's DK's proposal on the table - over to GW now for his. I doubt however the latter will be able to match that kind of investment. Compromise in the offing ?
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The problem is its not really free speech - its defamatory comments made by individuals who will not pick up the bill for it - someone else will viz Craig. You are right - I would be the last person to acquiesce to silencing, but you cant champion free speech when its based on clearly defamatory comments. Whilst I dont agree with Craig on several matters - I would defend his right to criticise the board & the Easdales where appropriate. A truly Voltaire moment. The comments Lord Watson has highlighted are not criticism though, they clearly are defamatory.
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That would not surprise me in the least gs. Could the SOS message not have been delivered with equal effect with the comments section disabled ?
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Why odds on ? I hope you dont think Im supporting SE is this legal venture.
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Well I hope you gave yourself good odds.
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What a lot of testosterone filled nonsense from all involved - I would say they are all making our club look stupid. Frankie was spot on when he tweeted this was an unhelpful sideshow. I think most of us on here know that people are responsible for the content of their facebook page - its the primary reason I gave up on it and switched to twitter as I didnt have the time or energy to administer some of the stupid and defamatory comments which were being posted. Im guessing that SOS like everyone else are not above the law - I really cannot understand why they continued to use this vehicle and platform, which was clearly being abused by others - but which they were ultimately responsible for. Its not about opinions/factions being pro/anti board etc - its about the law. That said it would be refreshing if the board went after some of the real enemies of our club as opposed to concerned, albeit ill advised, supporters.
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That article requires to be re-titled : "An open invitation to the the Craig Whyte's of this world" Utterly reckless.
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(John Greechan - Scottish Daily Mail 20.3.2014) I suppose if Mr Greechan's article had appeared in the “fiction section” of the local library, perhaps he could at least offer a plea in mitigation for the fable he passed off yesterday as fact. Its not particularly difficult to establish the true facts – all that is required is a search engine on a computer : http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/rangers-newco-ally-mccoist-says-rangers-have-to-drop-into-third-division-1-2395196 http://news.stv.tv/west-central/109964-rangers-supporters-group-calls-for-newco-club-to-start-in-division-three/ Fast -tracked ? Dont make us laugh Mr Greechan. Then again as a support, we Rangers fans are getting used to our true feelings being misrepresented within the media. That's not to say Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson enjoys popular status amongst the Rangers support, but the reasons for this are not as alluded to in Mr Greechan's article. It's perhaps worthy of re-visiting those reasons, particularly in light of recent comments by Mr Thompson, and exposing the levels of hypocrisy he is engaging in. In recent days Mr Thompson has accused the SFA of being “economical with the truth”, making statements which he classed as “awful” and “aggressive”. http://www.thecourier.co.uk/sport/football/dundee-united/who-do-they-think-they-re-talking-to-dundee-united-chief-rages-at-aggressive-sfa-statement-1.275406 Perhaps Mr Thompson would do well to remember his own comments and conduct. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18365480 “There's been a lack of remorse” Really Mr Thompson ? Really ?? I have spoken to hundreds of Rangers supporters online and in person these past few years and I am yet to meet one, one, who was not filled with remorse over the circumstances surrounding Craig Whyte's tenure at our club, the damage he caused and the hardship he caused for many many people. Who is being “economical with the truth” now Mr Thompson ? "Taking things to a court of law hasn't helped. That's certainly hardened views of people within the game. “ Hold on Mr Thompson, the Court Of Session found in Rangers favour – so asking for justice and being awarded it is in your eyes likely to cause a hardening of attitude against the victim ? And you have the audacity to label others “aggressive “ ? The truth is Stephen Thompson was happy to be at the forefront of the pack of wolves who savaged our club when it was down. I would imagine when Ally McCoist remarked at those swinging a kick at our club whilst it was down – many Rangers fans thought of Stephen Thompson. Much of the discussion surrounding the boycott of Tannadice certainly centred around this fact. The emotive and inflammatory language utilised by Mr Thompson, as well as those involved with the Arab Trust, have certainly done their club no favours at all. It is up to both the SFA and Police Scotland to deal with such unedifying language. The Rangers support will rise above all this nonsense and do what we do best – Support our team. Dundee United and their support would do well to follow our example. Perhaps if they did so, they would be afforded some measure of credibility when they ask for a 50/50 split of tickets.
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Dundee United chief Stephen Thompson blasts SFA.....
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Well spotted 26th - some good forward recon work there. Heres an idea for the fans, who in the past have accused the Rangers support of being "gloryhunters" Why not give them a ticket allocation based on their average home gate ?
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The Meeting Between S Easdale and SOS at Full Time
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4th Meeting of the Rangers CIC Working Party.
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I watched the interviews with Sandy Easdale and Dave King following the latter's summons to the "Headmaster's Office" . King said one thing - Easdale said something contrary. In the end it was explained as a "misunderstanding" Given the checkered, and less than edifying history of both these men, it was particularly difficult to know who was telling the truth. I can think of no better reason for getting behind the Rangers First Scheme or any other mechanism which delivers fan ownership- 140 replies
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4th Meeting of the Rangers CIC Working Party.
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So thats Rangers First and now VB smeared by you - why not go for a treble ? Is that really what you are all about ? Particularly sad.- 140 replies
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4th Meeting of the Rangers CIC Working Party.
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Yes I think we can all imagine who you " informed others of the words in question" to and I have no doubt the subsequent responses were unprintable. I have to say it is really disappointing to see so many RST members trying to create an impression that there is something sinister, something unedifying or underhand going on here. You are really not doing yourselves or your own organisation any favours whatsoever with your conduct in this thread.- 140 replies
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Well considerable kudos to Mr Letham, and a considerable victory I would suggest for fan power. However, none of that detracts from the fact that on the 21st January Wallace in an interview with The Scotsman newspaper stated : The apparent haste for the money which TRS article highlighted now appears to be no longer an issue. Which leaves me wondering whether this cash injection was in the event of an unfavourable result in the Imran court case ? Either way it appears to be an Epic Fail all round from the board whatever the reasons.
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Yes they are - but the MD, who for me makes the most damaging remarks is not. If Wallace is to be challenged on the assertions he has made we will need to have more than an "unnamed source in the city". Hence why I suggested the loan be evaluated by one or more named experts.
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Not quite Andy The person in question has declined to be identified. As a matter of considerable urgency the full terms & conditions of the loan deal with Laxey should be subject to evaluation by one, probably more, named suitably qualified persons.
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I think that should be the default position for all of us. -
Alex Thomson: Rangers into administration on Wednesday-Question....
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I have seen this muted elsewhere Frankie - I sincerely hope it is not true.