SteveC

The Miller and Waghorn shots were placed so that he could and indeed should have saved them. They could and should have placed the shots beyond the keeper's reach and into the net but they didn't. I don't think luck comes into that. As for the Wilson one, it was exciting at the time but it was pretty much straight at him - I'd be horrified if my keeper let that in. My RTV was bufferng at the Halliday one - as it was with a late Garner one. From what I saw (admittedly fleeting and bewilderingly one immediately after the other as RTV caught up with itself) they both hit it where he could reach it instead of away from him. The Wilson header I only saw once, too, so am willing to be corrected. RTV was a bit of a struggle today...........

Every time you say this DB, I reply by querying whether it is luck. All season we have hit the ball close to the keeper either making the save easy for him or the ball simply bouncing off him at high speed. This is not ill-luck, it is bad play. Waghorn and Garner do it continually (Garner even managing in his cameo role today) but the whole team are pretty expert at it - perhaps Toral and Hyndman excepted. I read time after time on here that keepers have played a blinder against us when, in reality, they've made at the most one or two really good saves and rarely any that they shouldn't in fact be saving. They look like they've saved the day with a string of stops when goals were expected but this is due to our poor finishing by repetitively headering or kicking the ball towards where they are or at least not placing it far enough away from them - it's not ill luck. Agreed re Holt though Hyndman pushed him close imo.

Ft 2-0................

Waggy off (worked hard but .....well you know the rest). Garner on

2-0 Brilliant play by Hyndman, absolutely brilliant and Toral finishes it with composure. Those two look like they come from another level to the others on the pitch. Which, in fact, they do.

Well done Rousseau, I was wondering if we were playing. Pretty poor I thought. McKay giving the ball away at the start of the match seemed a foretaste of much that was to come. Then there was a good, if brief, passage of play and a lovely cross and goal. My RTV buffered for the next three minutes so I did not see a replay but the cross looked very good. And then there was a huge scare just before HT.

I'd rather have had Dodoo than Waghorn. That's a cue for Waghorn to hit a hat-trick.

I did note that, too, but thought the board would find more commentary on this going "off topic" in an irritating way. We find it interesting, though, so I'll keep going until Admin tells me to stop. I go over a lot of business correspondence each week and make numerous corrections and I've all but given up explaining correct textual expression of dates as so few people know or care about it. I deal with multinational companies, so there are further complications with American usage and non-native speakers 'translating' (or mis-translating) from their native style, but very often the errors originate from a British writer. E-mails have had a lot to do with this. Business writing should be formal but e-mails encourage informal writing and the resultant stylistic confusion is quite complex. Still, it means I never have to search far for employment. Btw, you really should have ended with a question mark . --- In case of any misunderstanding, that last comment was light-hearted and I am fully aware that forum posts are not the same as official documentation or correspondence.

Well, we have to hope so. It must be a good one, if it does exist, as it is so well hidden!

You are correct in your remarks re the writing here. However, in a world where official BBC sites constantly have "reign in" where they should have "rein in"; "sat" where they should have "sitting", a seeming fear of apostrophes and either avoid commas altogether or sprinkle them around semi-randomly, then it is unsurprising to find such errors here.

Ashley certainly comes across as the vindictive tyoe

Well yes but that's setting the bar as low as: "vermin parasite scum who tried to kill us from the inside out" - it's not difficult to be much better than that. I'll be forever grateful he came in when he did whatever he does next

I know, but to be called "cynical and disingenuous" to be repeatedly not believed, to be shown to be "at it".... it really reads badly.

I know, I could hardly believe it. C'est la vie. Ta & I'll certainly miss being there.

Seems like it's all been paper nonsense- and now jack the Lad will be absolutely adored by the Sheep: Jack tells McInnes: ‘I’m not interested in Rangers move' The Aberdeen manager says he's been reassured his captain won't go to Ibrox. The Dons captain was linked with a switch to Ibrox, with a report that said an approach may be made before the end of the season. Jack is out of contract this summer and can speak to potential clubs at any time. In a rare move, Aberdeen used the club's Twitter account to carry a message from McInnes saying he had been reassured there was no likelihood of him leaving for Pedro Caixinha's team. McInnes said: "[The reports] got brought to my attention and I spoke to Ryan this morning as I normally do at training. "He gave me assurances that there has been no contact, that he doesn't anticipate contact and that it's not something he's interested in." The Dons boss said that a move to England was a possibility if Jack left Aberdeen at all but also questioned the timing of the reports, with Rangers chasing his side for second place in the league. "Ryan feels that he is really happy here," he said. "He hasn't ruled out staying here and we're all hoping that he will be here [next season]. "But if he does decide to move on his likely destination will be England. He sees that maybe being his next opportunity if he decides to leave Aberdeen. "So there's absolutely nothing in it and you have to question the reason for it, whether it's to try and destabilise us or whatever. "I have been assured by Ryan - and I trust Ryan - that he nor his agent have had any contact with Rangers."

Yes, very true - I should have added that - thanks for doing so.

And other media are repeating the "distinct and separate from the Football Club" line. Why then were managers Stein, macari and brady all involved with dealing with youth players' complaints, one might ask.

Hepburn - he should be in jail. Daly should have smacked him in the gob. Hepburn was actually proud of the fact that he had kept his word to Kenny Waugh ("a decent man") while Neely was free to rape young kids. Drives me nuts.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-39598397 Note the use of Zombie in a sub heading as well as the tone of the piece and the closing paragraphs. -- Back in the top flight of Scottish football, at least some pride restored, the fans at Ibrox might still hope that normal service has now resumed. They're to be sorely disappointed again, and not only because an imminent criminal court case can be expected to bring back some painful memories. The current directors' box regime, under Dave King, is still in emergency measures. Rangers International Football Club (RIFC) is cut off from normal financing and banking, and having to fund losses by reliance on wealthy shareholders. But now, King's hold on Ibrox is in doubt. The method by which he got control of it has led to the close attention of the Takeover Panel - a usually obscure arm of company law, with the job of refereeing fairness for all shareholders amid bruising corporate jousts. It has never used its enforcement powers before, which is just one of the aspects of the RIFC and the Dave King case, which is unprecedented, and leaves a lot of uncertainty hanging over the club. Concert party To recap, there was a well publicised consortium of wealthy Rangers fans who worked with South Africa-based Dave King to wrest the club from its former directors. They achieved this by buying more than a third of the shares in the club. And that's the way it has remained. Ibrox stadium Image caption Shares in Rangers International Football Club have been trading at 27.5 pence But if you're involved in a takeover of a company - any company - when you get past 30% of share ownership, you are required, by law to make an offer to buy all the other shares. The price is set by the regulator at the highest level reached in the last 12 months during which the bidder was amassing shares. If shareholders combine forces to take over a company, as this team did, in a so-called "concert party", that has to be declared as a single bid. In this case, no such declaration was officially made. The Takeover Panel has since said that it should have been. There's a good reason for this. With 30% you can have effective control of a company. Now, think of company A which buys enough shares in its main commercial rival company B, to take control of its boardroom. 'Delinquent director' By taking decisions which undermine the health of that company, A's owner can shrink B's market share and profitability, and ultimately run it out of business altogether. That's clearly not in the interests of the other shareholders of company B. So fairness requires that they are offered a fair price for every shareholder to sell to the takeover bidder. That rivalry scenario may not apply at Ibrox, but the law still does. And since the Takeover Panel last month told Dave King he had a month to make an offer to buy all the club's shares, he seems to have simply ignored it. That's why the Panel is taking the unprecedented action of seeking to enforce its ruling, through the Court of Session. The court can take whatever action it believes is necessary to ensure the law is observed. Mr King could, for instance, be barred from acting as a director, or forced to sell his stake in the club. And if Mr King continues to ignore legal authority, he can be ruled in contempt of court. The Takeover Panel's code also includes measures for "cold shouldering" - for instance, requiring professional bodies to challenge the director's continued status within them. That may not much bother a businessman in South Africa, but if it pushes the financial regulator to ensure financial companies don't have anything to do with a delinquent director, then that could hurt a bit more. Now, here are two puzzling complications. The Takeover Panel ruling says that Mr King must offer to buy all the other shares at 20 pence. But if you look at the platform on which Rangers International Football Club (RIFC) shares are traded, you'll find the most recent trades have been at 27.5 pence. Parliament House Image caption The Takeover Panel is seeking to enforce its ruling through the Court of Session in Edinburgh It might, at first, seem daft to sell your shares for 20 pence when the going rate appears to be 27.5 pence. But that going rate may not be as it seems. The trading platform won't tell you is how recent these trades were. That market is not like the London stock exchange. You put up a share stake for sale, and wait for someone else to show interest. Trading is sticky. It may be possible, that way, to inflate the true value of shares. And if you have shares in any company, they are only worth something if you can find someone to buy them. It matters a lot that such markets have liquidity - meaning enough willing buyers. Zombie shareholders The other puzzlement is the 10.4% of the company that's owned by anonymous funds that have refused to respond to messages from Ibrox. Blue Pitch Holdings has four million shares, ATP Investments has 2.6m, Norne Anstalt has 1.2m and Putney Holdings has 700,000. Directors have written to them "requiring information about the nature of those interests". And having received no answer, they have barred these shareholders from exercising voting rights, receiving any dividends, or having a transfer of shares registered. That should make them impossible to sell. These appear to be zombie shareholders, which many may wish to link to those with a previous interest in running the club. Whoever is behind them, it's a weird presence on the share register of a company which is now in a lot of hot water. Of course, Dave King could solve his Takeover Panel problems by now making an offer for those shares, including the zombie element. That could cost him £11m, plus hefty advice, offer and transaction costs. That would set back to square one the romantic notion of ownership by the wider fan base, eventually handing control to the fans. It would also require Mr King to make good on his commitment to the club. He is supposed to be very rich, from his South African businesses. His clash with the country's tax authorities would suggest he must have done a lot of successful business to have failed to pay so much tax on it. We don't know how he got into that very expensive mess in his tax affairs. But the evidence suggests he may be the kind of person who receives official-looking letters and stuffs them in a drawer in the hope that the problem goes away. As a general rule, it doesn't.

It sure doesn't

I can't make it I'm afraid. I'm up the weekend before, so it was nearly a lucky coincidence but not quite. Hoping you all have a great time as I'm sure you will.

If they get Kenny Miller, would that change your mind ?

Interestng read. Again underlines how pampered, spoiled and self centred footballers are and how divorced from a real working life. If it weren't for my inbred love of Rangers I'd have given up on the game long ago.

I've not noticed that. Well I've not read any news today yet so perhaps they are this morning but they certainly haven't been up until now. A part of a TV programme shared with other clubs followed by the biggest selling paper devoting its front page to Nicky Clark is all I have noticed. Huge threads on Rangers forums preaching to the converted aside, it's been as though nothing happened.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39595626 Celtic Boys Club figure charged over sex abuse 49 minutes ago Gerry King, who has been chairman of Celtic Boys Club, has been charged in connection with historical sex abuse offences. Police Scotland have confirmed that a 65-year-old man was charged on 15 February and a report has been sent to the procurator fiscal. Mr King is a teacher at Glasgow's St Martha's Primary School. He has been suspended from teaching duties by Glasgow City Council pending the outcome of the investigation. Its understood the charges relate to alleged activities at Celtic Boys Club.