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Under Pressure As if we weren’t under enough pressure to qualify for the knockout stages of the Champions League, Celtc getting through by default last night (look, I’m not knocking it, I’d take qualification under any circumstances) has heaped further pressure on our players and staff to ensure that we get the required result next week. We have been handed a break from the beaks and have been given extra time to prepare for this game and have no game to look forward to this weekend. Even given the fact that we have already secured 3rd place in the group, I know that a defeat at home to Lyon will taste like failure as we have come so far in this group, not qualifying is simply unthinkable. However, me being the eternal pessimist, I can see heartache ahead. At times like these my thoughts take me back to watching Rangers in the early / mid 80’s and standing in the East Enclosure at the first home game of the season, or on the few occasions we got to a final at Hampden, standing on the red-ash of the Rangers end, chanting the ‘Rangers Chorus’ of the time – ‘Don’t Let Us Down Again’. I don’t need to remind you that they did on more occasions than not….. People are saying that Ibrox will be rocking next week and I agree in some respects. However, as the game goes on and the score stays 0-0, more and more fans will get nervous and this will transmit onto the pitch. We really must score the first goal – the earlier the better to settle everyone down. The longer the game goes, the more nervous we will become. I hope that my pessimism is unfounded and that we turn in one of our best ever European displays and take our place in the last 16 with the minimum of fuss. Not wanting to get to far ahead of myself, but if we do qualify, then I would happily take AC Milan in the next round. I have watched them a lot on TV this season and they aren’t the team that they once were. Looking at the likely group winners, they would be my first choice as I think that we would have a very decent chance of defeating them over the 2 legs. But like I say, that discussion is for another day, lets just concentrate on getting the desired result against Lyon. I Was Wrong – So Very Wrong I admit that I was one of the Rangers fans who as well as backing the moves to rid our support of the unsavoury chants and add-ons, claimed that once we had eradicated these, we could expect a shift of focus and other fans to come under the microscope. I have to hold up my hand here and admit that I was wrong, oh so very wrong. We have undoubtedly cleaned up our act and have as a support, rid our wonderful songs of any reference to the wee man from Rome with the funny hat. For this, we should be applauded and used as an example to fanbases in this country who still have a very evident problem with sectarian, political and offensive songs. Instead of seeing a change of direction from the 3rd estate, we have continued to be the sole fanbase who’s songs and actions continue to come under scrutiny from the authorities and especially the media. Some Rangers fans have had enough and have taken it upon themselves to challenge the blatant one-sided reporting of this perceived sectarian problem. We also have the excellent RST who continue to release statements defending us whilst highlighting the imbalance of this whole topic. However, and worryingly, our club continues to believe that a wall of ‘dignified’ silence is the way to deal with this issue. It makes you wonder where this supposed money that our PR (no sniggering at the back) has spent on defending the club and fans has gone as their presence in this debate has been entirely missed by this Bear. Since the start of this season, one set of supporters has continually sang sectarian, political and offensive songs with impunity. These fans haven’t been brought to task by the media, politicians, NBM or the SPL / SFA. This set of fans are behaving like they know and realise that no matter what they do, they are ‘untouchable’. For some reason, nobody has the bottle or inclination to bring them to task. Previously, we were told that they had a small problem with a minority of their away fans, then we were told that they didn’t have a problem at all. Funny that, as their outgoing Chairman chaired meetings earlier this season with fan groups asking them to drown out these sectarian, political and offensive songs. We have had to listen to the Chairperson of their Supporters Trust justify the singing or IRA songs within their support. When vilified for this, we witness the usual suspects jump to her defence. The sectarian debate has also reached the front door of the ex-worst minister, Mr Joke McConnell. Joke was fond of informing us that sectarianism was Scotland’s Secret Shame and his sound-bites and actions portrayed a man who thought that this was a ‘one-way street’. Lets not forget that Joke shares a constituency office with the despicable Frank Roy. Last week Jokes Brother in law was guilty of a sectarian outburst at a televised and high-profile award ceremony. Now, as far as I am aware only one media outlet (News Of The World) ran with this story and I am assuming that that Police will be serving Mr McLuckie with a sectarian breach of the peace charge? The irony is that the girls that Mr McLuckie assumed were Proddy Bastards were in fact Catholic. So ladies and gentlemen, it appears that the media, NBM, politicians etc are only interested in sectarianism if we are the perpetrators. It appears that what we believed all along is true, they can do no wrong and they know it and are acting accordingly. Don’t hold your breath for them to be brought to task, it’ll never happen. English Premier League For some reason, I had lost interest in the EPL over the last couple of seasons and count on the one hand how many live games I had sat down and watched. I still watched MOTD on a Sunday morning, but only really with a passing interest. This season has been different, I have refound my passion for the EPL and have to admit that I am really enjoying watching the likes of Manchester United (and City) and Arsenal. I don’t really have an EPL team as such, but have a soft spot for Chelsea (have had for years) and have always loved watching Arsenal play. I don’t have the hatred for Manchester United (in fact, I can’t believe that so many Bears hate them – we have so much in common – but that’s for another day) that some Bears do and they are playing really well at the moment. Two players (apart from the obvious ones) who have really stood out for me so far this season are two ex-Rangers players: Arteta and Tugay. Both these players are exceptional talents and left Rangers for differing reasons (depending on who you believe). Tugay just sits in the midfield and makes everything look so easy and always appears to have oddles of time on the ball. Arteta is an exciting player going forward and his trickery and delivery would be an asset to any team in the country. Bottom line is, we are a poorer team / squad without them and could be doing with their talent at the moment (or players with similar ability). For what it is worth, I hope that Arsenal win the EPL but think that Man U will be too strong for them over the course of the season - but don't rule Chelsea out. Cammy F

Well, no Ranger ever claims to be bigger or better than another (IMO of course)..... :moon: Cammy F

Usual mixed bag from Boyd - did well to set up JDD for the opener then set-up SN with a great chance just after that. Scuffed a few chances himself and was unlucky to be flagged offside when he latched onto a rebound, rounded the keeper and 'scored'. Not his worst game in a Rangers jersey but was far from 'outstanding' (as could be said about a few others as well). Cammy F

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I would say it was - we did manage a few good runs in Europe pre-Souness and pre-Murray - notabely under JG when we defeated PSV and Juventus and went out in the 1/2 finals. As I said in the title, maybe I do ask for too much for my club, but IMO Rangers should be in the last 16 of the CL most, if not all seasons. Cammy F

Here is a video of Celtc fans singing a song by The Wolftones called Oh Ah Up The 'Ra from Tynecastle on Saturday : http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=6wpdump&s=1 oops, that link might not work as Timmy are trying to cover all the evidence of their shame as Bears have been bombarding the SPL - if that link doesn't work, try this one : http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...5C8D5769A83C89 Here is the 'official' Wolftones video of said song which Parkhead was used as a backdrop and The Wolftones were allowed access to parkhead to film this video : Yet, the SPL, SFA, NBM, SOS, etc do NOTHING to highlight these songs now sung on a weekly basis. Once again, the RST putting the club to shame in its defence of us, the fans Cammy F

The Grenta game is to be rescheduled and like Lyon, we will have a free weekend this weekend. Cammy F

Todays News Of The World carries a story regarding Joke McConnells brother-in-law who attened a very high profile (and televised) awarf ceremony last week. At said event, Mr Robert McLuckie shouted sectarian abuse at two girls who performed Into The Valley as the names of Scottish soldiers killed in Iraq were shown. As the girls left the stage, Mr McLuckie intercepted them and shouted 'Proddy Bastards' at them. Then irony, both girls in question were Catholic. Your right Mr McConnell, this is Scotlands Secret Shame right enough and its alive and kicking in you own family. Cammy F

Rumours heard at Ibrox yesterday : Boyd out in January as he has apparently been a naughty boy and 'could' end up in court sooner rather than later. Could be AM's first signing for Birmingham. The rumours that Kenny Misser is set for a return to Ibrox are unrelenting with me hearing this every where I go. Got told this again at a function last night from someone very close to Hibs players. The same guy told me that Michael Stewart was sold from Hibs for fighting with John Collins. Former Rangers hero or villian depending on your opinion, Peter Lovenkrands is building a �£2M pound house in Glasgow fuelling rumours of a return to Rangers. WS has had him watched recently and PL is very keen on a return to Rangers. Cousin is likely to leave in January but the main priority is a left back and left midfield player. Possible target could be Birminghams Garry McSheffry. Cammy F - Don't Shoot The Messinger Loyal RSC

But Rangers fans aren't singing about child abuse, they aren't condoning child abuse, they aren't even mentioning child abuse. Those who chose to sing it, are simply singing 'Big Jock Knew'. As far as I am aware, Jock Stein has never abused a kid.... 'Who shagged all the boys on the other hand'..... Cammy F

on the other hand, I am sure they are offended by the fact that Celtc failed them in their hour of need and certain Celtc employess lied (on TV) when interviewed about Torbett and his actions. In fact, one went as far as to say that a 'make believe' Boys Club tourny was in fact, fact - when in reality, it was a rouse by Torbett to gain access and time alone with those he abused. Maybe they people who were abused, let down, potrayed as the enemy and the wrong-doers would be offended by the fact that Celtc continued to give Torbett's business financail backing when he was in jail for abusing kids (by renewing contracts with The Trophy Centre). Maybe they find it offensive that this whole sordid affair has been swepted under the carpet when in fact, it is possibly Scotlands Real Seceret Shame? Cammy F

It already happens in some parts of Europe where games will be moved to midweek to give teams a full week to prepare for an upcoming important European game. In fact, I am sure Lyon have a free weekend next weekend. I also think (rightly or wrongly) that Club football is now far more important (in terms of money, tv deals etc) than international games and in 10 years time it may not be uncommon for Internationals to be rearranged to suit domestic games (just look at the luke-warm reception the 'Celtc Cup' got from managers). Cammy F

Well, whats the problem with my views? I believe that this is the biggests scandel to hit Scottish football and SHOULD be up for debate. We shouldn't have journos telling us it is bordering on sectarianism. As for singing Big Jock Knew - its a personal choice - it isn't sectarian, it isn't offensive, it isn't racist - before anyone says it isn't football related, I know it isn't but come on, there are plenty of songs sung around football that aren't football related. I personally don't sing it, but wouldn't shout anyone down for singing it. Cammy F

I think the key word in there is SHOULD.... That team has NEVER played together, Faye is injured (or in jail), Gow is so far of the radar that I am more likely to get a game against Gretna, and losing Thomson or Adam (considering the injuries we have) against Gretna would be a blow going inot the Lyon game. We all have our opinions on the merits of cancelling this game, some will agree some will not. No right or wrong, just some people will think it should be rearranged (or at least put back to the Saturday or even the Friday night) some won't. Cammy F

I did'nt think that was the question. Cammy F

Or if we suffer any other injury blows to key players (like Fergie, JCD, LMcC, CC) etc, will be happy with picking up 3 points then going into the Lyon game with an understrenth team? We should have the squad to deal with Gretna, but do we have the strength in depth to deal with Lyon? Scotland asked for the OF games to be rearranged due to fear of injuries, Rangers are simply doing the same. In fact, Celtc, in hindsight, are wishing that they had asked for their game v Hearts to have been rearranged. Cammy F

Ask the kids who were abused if Jock Stein's knowing of the abuse (and doing very little) isn't worthy of highlighting. Jock Stein (to his credit) sacked Torbett but he said NOTHING to the authorities and Torbett was then reinstated in the Boys Club. I think a few fair-minded journalists have said that there does need to be a debate on this subject where others tell lies to claim that we are the bad guys in this situation. It has been proven in court that Jock Stein knew about the abuse - in fact Billy McNeil said that this was 'an open secret' - indicating that most people employed at Parkhead knew about systamtic child abuse and to their eternal shame, lied, covered this up and didn't inform the authorities. BTW, as far as I am aware, Celtc have NEVER apologised to the children (now adults) who suffered abuse whilst in their care. Cammy F Cammy F

It didn't help Scotland, but the offer was there and we did everything in our power to help Scotland - surely all we can ask is the same to be respricated? Cammy F

Honestly folks, this thread on FF is a MUST READ - if this doesn't set off alarm bells about the one-sided sectarian offensive in this country nothing will. Log on to FF, read and digest this and support this Bear and his family http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=337616&page=1 Cammy F

Aye his next line was 'one minute they are never walking alone and the next they are so lonely round the fields of arthurs thighs....' Cammy F

Looks like Jim 'Masonic Orange Order' White and Charlie 'Dirty Turncoat Barsteward' Knickerless have gone and upset the MOPES Cammy F

..... great words from the great Denis Law Cammy F

A brilliant idea and one that surely cannot be denied given how we readily cancelled our game prior to the Scotland v Italy international. Cammy F

I realise and understand that we were drawn in the group of death, but even given that, surely a club of the stature of Rangers FC SHOULD be aiming for the last 16 of the CL EVERY season no matter who were are drawn against? Is settling for anything less than the last 16 of the CL a systematic of the thinking / downsizing of ambition instilled by David Murray? Cammy F