calscot
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How is allowing the fans to choose which way to vote, a snub to the board? That sounds like a snub to the fans - a huge insult to the life blood of the club. It's up to the board to how they garner support from the fans, and it's something they should be engaging in doing. They may survive the AGM without the backing of the fans but you can't run a football club with long term disenchantment from the very people who supply all the money.
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Keith Jackson: Burger van fiasco is a timely reminder
calscot replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
I agree, but the main thrust of the report was mostly related to stuff out-with our control - we never deserved to be in the league we're in, and have nothing to do with Stenhousemuir FC stands and burger van issues. Yet again it's the victim being mocked - fair enough by the Celtic View but it's not becoming of a so-called national newspaper. It's also a quite disrespectful to League One teams, which seems in the media to be justified, collateral damage as long as you're having a go at Rangers. It's amazing how hard it is just to find even a slightly fair minded article on us in the press - and at a time of massively falling sales in that industry. -
Keith Jackson: Burger van fiasco is a timely reminder
calscot replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
Some of the stuff in that report is fair enough but the tone is still far too mocking and snidy to be considered to have even mediocre journalistic values. -
BTW There are loads of modern anthems we could adapt to make up songs. What's that coming over the hill Uprising (We will be victorious) The (Billy) boys are back in town Let me entertain you London calling (Rangers/Ibrox calling) Should I stay or should I go (for the subway loyal... ) Don't Look Back In Anger (for the SPL) I predict a riot (for the Tims) Every day I love you less and less (for the board)
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Maybe I don't want to believe that 40k+ people are attending games, not actually for the football, but for a mass celebration of anti-Catholicism, and pro-Orange Order of which most know little about and few are members. If you can prove to me that that is the case then I will be truly saddened for the country of my birth and the football club I follow. BTW Can't stand Penny Arcade, I prefer Rangers songs. We have a few and could have made up a ton more had we not been stuck in the 17th century. We could even still have had the Billy Boys if we had dropped the F word - that was an anthem.
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Rangers investor to crack Blue Pitch and Margarita mystery
calscot replied to Steve1872's topic in Rangers Chat
Yeah, I laughed out loud at that one. -
As said before, I sang a few at 11 and stopped at 11 as I worked out the rights and wrongs then - you don't have to age 30 years before you get it. At the time I also found it all a bit weird and tried to get someone to explain the Orange Walk to me but the best they could so is pretty much say, it is what it is, as it really doesn't make much sense. And that pretty much shows you the lack of intelligence, common sense or even street smarts in it all. Would it really be overly PC for fans to sing, "we're up to our knees in our enemy's blood?" or "we're up to our knees in Celtic's blood?" That's all it required to prevent it from being banned. But its seems your trying to justify something that just doesn't wash. Maybe you were looking for some kind of cult instead of a football team to support. Why not deny them? The rest of the footballing world has done fine without it while our country is in the sess-pit. There is a gamut of other really positive traditions that no-one seems interested in perpetuating so why continue one that just encourages hate, violence and bigotry?
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Celtic suspend fans after damage to Motherwell's Fir Park
calscot replied to ian1964's topic in General Football Chat
I assumed Andy was being sarcastic... ie Lennon would never say that. -
It is sometimes ironic when football fans complain about the threat of being punished for pretty much acting like nasty, horrible low-lives. There are so many super-heroes to aspire to be but these days everyone seems to want to be the evil, bad ass criminal, even though the latter always lose.
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Must be really cool to have your football team run by a current Rangers player...
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I think I sang a couple for a short while when I was about 11 but then realised what they meant and decided it was wrong. I didn't need any parents telling me this, I just worked it out for myself. I had a Rangers LP of songs, and none of them had any of the religious stuff in it. The whole thing is utterly oxymoronic as if you're religious then you're clueless about your own religion and you're probably going to hell, and if your not, then you must be just senseless and wasting a large part of your one and only life on something you're not even interested in - and ironically hurting the club you follow by doing so. But I know why people do it, it's because they think they are big and hard when they do - and that's the sad aspect of it. It's all about being loud, offensive, abusive and threatening in a country that brought enlightenment to the world.
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This is what you get when larger countries follow the Scottish duopoly model - monsters that become impossible to compete with.
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I think "The wheels on the bus" would offend me if it was loudly sung while I was trying to travel in peace.
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I agree it's nothing to do with football and can't see how banning them from games will stop them. Banning them from trains will do the trick, albeit moving it onto the buses.
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I think about 2% of turnover should be the maximum for director and CEO wages. That would put Man U at £7.2m and Celtic at £1.5m. Ours would come out as 380k. I think the Prime Minister earns £142500 for running (ruining?) the country.
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All I can think of is what a really shit father that guy is. And when you get two people who can't help but break into loud and bigoted singing on a train, they really come across as a couple of weirdos. The thing is, it's usually the plastic paddies that are that weird, but at least they have the small excuse that they are highly indoctrinated from a young age.
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I don't see it as a toy train, I see it as an important local line that takes you from somewhere provincial to say Glasgow to get the Inter city to London from. Without the local line or an alternative you can't get to where you want to go. It might be a bit run down, slow and not be as pleasant and experience as the "big" train, but it's no toy. Who wants to go on a badly maintained roller coaster where the owner has designs on you being dead? It's not about the stomach, it's about the brain. You can miss swimming in the sea but when the biggest beach is dangerously polluted and almost killed you, and you're still recovering from the illness, it's normal to have no desire to go back it. If they clean it up, then that could be different but it will take you a while to trust it. Really, you want to find an alternative large beach or beaches, despite all the memories. Swap beach for dangerous and out-dated roller-coaster or whatever.
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I don't think many would disagree with that but it's not actually the question. How many would be happy enough if Celtic went to the wall and we were invited into a European league or even the English Championship? Could we enjoy living in either scenario without them? I think so. We may have good memories of a day gone by when it was the most exciting game in the world but things have changed and it doesn't mean everyone would want them back if we had a decent alternative. Do we really want to be by far the top team in a one team top league? Yes and no. The main problem is that what we really want is now way out of our reach.
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There are so many analogies which would explain it to people. But the question is, no matter how much you enjoyed sparring with someone you hated in the past because they were the only one to really challenge you, even if you miss the bouts, do you really want to see someone again after they try to kill you and indeed keep telling everyone you are dead? People miss many things in the past, their school days, their first car that was rusting to bits and kept breaking down but which helped them have some great times when they were young, an old girlfriend they had an intense and stormy relationship with and broke up with very acrimoniously, but do they in all reality, want to bring any of them back? The answer is usually no. I think many of us would have forgone ever playing Celtic ever again to have been given the chance to work our way up the English leagues and eventually replace them with Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal as the main rivals. Celtic have killed any romance of the rivalry and it's now just deathly poisonous, who really wants that? The only problem is that they are the only equivalent team to us in Scotland. Let's pray for a European league sometime soon. We didn't miss them at all during their own meltdown while we were beating Leeds etc.
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But So have Celtic, which brings the average down.
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While I agree with some of the thrust of this post, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the working for the arithmetic. Where is the number that is added to 7.8+1.5 to give 11? Pay for 150 staff, many of whom are part time, some on minimum wage and some only work match days, works out at £4m? Not sure if that adds up. Thing is, £2.6m and about 13.5% of turnover for the directors of a company who made a loss of about 73% of turnover is verging on criminal, even if it's not as bad as £10m (based on 19.1m of turnover and 14m of loss).
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This totally smacks of the worst of the glory hunting mentality. It is highly disrespectful of other clubs in our country who have loving fans that turn up to games even though there is not much chance of glory, just survival in the lower leagues. Then we come along and have people who can't even stomach a diet of winning game after game and have the arrogance to call the opposition "non-entities" and "no-marks". Just what kind of entities are we, people who chose the very easy route and just happened to pick the best team in the country to support? I think to have any class about choosing to support a top team, you have to show respect to those who choose a more difficult, noble and humble path. No wonder we were hated and now that we have a chance to make new friends we have people who can't stop alienating everyone with their spoiled brat attitude. I think you need a reality check. No matter the why's and wherefores and whether we deserve it, we are where we are and can't change that. To be maudlin and miserable about it while we stare a challenge in the face and deal with it in such a fashion is a totally pathetic. Real fans are here for the football, you play who is put before you and you celebrate the wins. Really, what else is it about without going into some weirdo fantasy that we can wish ourselves back to the top of the European game? What do you want us to do? Wear sacks and whip ourselves after every win? Some people are so busy missing a fantasy that they can't be thankful and enjoy the easy and plentiful life they have.
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Yeah, I think I had Scotsman on the brain, as it's usually them. The Telegraph just makes one more supposed quality paper who have agenda driven journalistic drivel.
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Yeah but if I was publishing that I would have triple checked my facts.
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The ironic thing is that when share prices are at a high they tend to drop, and when at a low they tend to go up - so if you compare the clubs next year, Rangers will probably have the share price that performs the best. The whole thing is an idle boast. If there is a time to compare it is when Rangers are back in the top league and Europe for a few seasons.