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Frankie ‏@GersnetOnline @ScotlandTonight have asked Stewart Regan to appear on their programme for over two weeks. Invitation refused

Aye very good

He already has,many times over!. I let my emotions take over there for a minute, I will always support Rangers, but you can understand some fans just walking away from this sham of an organisation, and I'll repeat it again how much will Ally get to sign the players we need to win the 3rd and 2nd divisions ?

St Johnstone face an uphill struggle to reach the Europa League third qualifying round after a 2-0 defeat by Eskisehirspor in Turkey. The Turkish side took the lead through a deflected Alper Potuk drive shortly before half-time. A second deflected goal from Veysel Sari put the home side firmly in the driving seat. However, a positive second-half display from the Saints will give them some hope for the return leg on 26 July. The Perth side, minus the injured duo of captain Dave Mackay and new striker Gregory Tade, struggled with unusually high temperatures in Anatolia. After only a minute the Turks carved out a chance when a cross from the right was volleyed just wide of the post by Patrick Malecki. However, despite that early scare, and Eskisehirspor dominating possession, Saints limited the home side to shots from distance throughout the early period of the match. The Eskisehirspor players claimed for a penalty as the ball appeared to strike the arm of Fraser Wright, but the referee was unmoved. Malecki was active on the left wing for the hosts and Saints were fortunate former Celtic player Diomansy Kamara could not connect properly with a fizzing far-post cross from the Pole. Saints manager Steve Lomas had clearly opted for a conservative formation, with only Sean Higgins up front, and a weak Jamie Adams header was the sum total of the visitors' attacking intent in the first half. The thin blue line of the St Johnstone defence was breached five minutes before the break when Alper's shot was deflected past the stretching Alan Mannus into the bottom left-hand corner of the net. Saints opened the second half with more attacking intent, and Liam Craig tested goalkeeper Ruud Boffin with a long-range free-kick, but it was a comfortable save for the Belgian. Goalscorer Alper then spurned a great chance with Saints temporarily down to 10 men after Wright took a knock in the visiting box. The forward raced past the challenge of two Saints defenders but Mannus blocked his low shot from close range. Shortly after, however, Veysel raced in from the right wing, and his low effort from a tight angle was deflected past Mannus by the unfortunate Wright. The visiting defence lost some cohesion after the loss of the second goal and Mannus had to look smart to save another close range effort from former Dortmund defender Dede. Lomas changed his system as the game reached its closing stages and the visitors searched for a way into the tie. New signing Nigel Hasselbaink replaced the largely ineffective striker Higgins and fellow forward Steven May came on for midfielder Jamie Adams. And stand-in captain Murray Davidson almost handed Saints a last-minute lifeline when he dribbled into the home six-yard box, but his ball across the face of goal was taken off the toe of May by a defender. The second-half display will have given Saints fans encouragement, but the two-goal deficit could prove challenging to overturn. Eskisehirspor: Boffin, Angelo, Dede, Cetin, Potuk, Zengin (Nuhiu 84), Malecki (Eser 78), Gucer, Sari, Karadeniz (Tello 69), Kamara. Subs Not Used: Erdogan, Bahtiyaroglu, Guven, Kara. Goals: Potuk 41, Sari 64. St Johnstone: Mannus, Callum Davidson, Wright, McCracken, Miller, Cregg (Moon 85), Millar, Murray Davidson, Craig, Adams (May 78), Higgins (Hasselbaink 69).Subs Not Used: Tuffey, Anderson, Robertson, Scobbie. Referee: Ante Vucemilovic (Croatia) Att: 13,000 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18893718 If that was Rangers I'm sure the report would have been quite different!

Nope,I'm not buying that, do you really think the Regan would not issue a license to play in the 3rd division?, I'm sure the SFL would even take up that fight. How much more punishments are we to accept?, I'm really getting ready to finish with football right now.

Sorry Pete, that is an illegal sanction that isn't in the SFA rules,as was proved in court, if it was then I would accept it

Aye,how much money does Ally have to do that?,if he gets enough to rapidly sign decent players then we might just be ok,however I would have still told Regan to fuck off. CG is playing a very dangerous game here, I hope he has cash to invest because he will not get much season ticket money with this agreement!

As far as CG is concerned he needs the license, at all cost, to start rebuilding,but I would have told Regan to fuck off

It just says what der berliner has posted

I was just about to post this, this is a fucking disgrace if true!

I just hope to fuck CG isn't just going to accept Regans' sanctions!, we as a club need to start defending ourselves

I keep repeating the fact that Rangers,CG,RST should be all over this like a rash!

'Orange Day' Scottish Cup Final 2000 - Rangers 4 - Aberdeen 0

Maybe we have made the right move,the SFL is the place to be while the SPL goes tits up!:devil: Now all the SPL clubs will be asking to join the SFL?

FFS, the man must be absolutely broken by this, I can't even imagine how him and his family are feeling. RIP. I'll never forget the look of delight on Claudios' face this night [video=youtube;hq4DFkMI-kU]

I don't follow this mate?, he is only asking questions that we are all asking except he is actually doing something about it,I would however like to know who is pulling his strings!

Lifted from FF: Regan and the SFA's Corruption exposed? The principal case by Regan and the SFA against Rangers bringing the game into disrepute centred on the evidence and questioning of Rangers Financial Controller, Ken Olverman. Indeed in a classic way selected parts of his evidence was leaked to the media in order to undermine his credibility and indeed his integrity. It was a shameful way for any governing body to act. The infamous independent Former High Court Judge who presided over the 'Independent Tribunal' (this the man who could find no evidence of Catholic favouritism in Monklands Council - John Reid's constituency) has been used to demonstrate the independence of the Tribunal. Rangers defence which was disregarded was that the fault lay solely with Craig Whyte's governance which led to both John Greig and John McLelland resigning from the Board. Whyte demanded the Financial Controller report only to him. If the Rangers case was accepted it would show another failure by Regan in his responsibility as Chief Executive of the SFA. This would be on to of his incompetent handling of the fit and proper person test. I am advised from within Ibrox that Ken Olverman had some misgivings about Whyte's instructions and form of governance. Of such concern were these to him that he consulted his professional body. He was advised that unless he had clear evidence of wrongdoing he should follow his employer's (Whyte) instructions. Whyte, of course, covered his tracks so well it would take a team of forensic accountants to unravel his dealings. Ken Olverman followed the advice he was given by his professional body. In so doing he acted correctly andwith integrity. Why this did not emerge in the Hearing or subsequent Appeal I do not know. If this is shown independently to be the truth- and it would be fairly simple for a member of the intrepid Scottish media to check with Mr Olverman and his professional body - it would totally undermine the case against Rangers and expose the findings and Appeal result as a sham and miscarriage of justice in that evidence was used selectively. It would also expose the corruption at the heart of the SFA and demonstrate that body as being unfit to have any integrity or authority when it comes to determining any Appeal against the removal of titles and trophies. I cannot name the source but am personally willing to swear a legal affidavit confirming I was advised about Mr Olverman seeking the advice of his professional body. This may explain Regan's desperation for Rangers to give up present and future rights to have recourse to the law to remedy injustice at the hands of the SFA. It may be the RFF or a Shareholder's Group would be willing to return to the Courts to protect the good name of our famous Club and initiate proceedings against the SFA and or Regan.

Well,it can be argued that we will sell out Ibrox,nearly!,after all that has happened to our club,every fan knows we need the cash to grow again, it is the only way and quickest way for us to return to the SPL

Aye,and there is way too much bad feeling just now,you're right it won't be pretty and I really hope we can avoid the BHEASTS

Agreed and I'm sure we will see something along that line,we are a big carrot for the SFL and they will want to fight for that reason alone,money talks

I wouldn't know how to mate!,just take what you need

Only if Rangers bend over and take it up the arse

Feel free to add to the list mate

Jul 19 2012 By Hugh Keevins Probe into Rangers title wins to be carried out by independent commission AN independent commission will decide which titles Rangers will lose over the dual contracts system that gave them an unfair advantage over opponents. The SPL’s legal team has spent months gathering evidence and they will turn it over to an independent body on August 10 to prosecute the Ibrox club. RecordSport understands the process is expected to take weeks andwill have a wide-ranging remit. They have to decide whether medals are to be withheld or new ones offered to Celtic by way of compensation for when they were runners up. An insider said: “It could be that all of Rangers official records will be ordered to change so that the years when titles have been taken from them are removed.” http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2012/07/19/probe-into-rangers-title-wins-to-be-carried-out-by-independent-commission-86908-23910039/ It seems as though this is already decided!

I posted this in TLB thread,wrongly!,it belongs in here. Remember the David Murray article in the record regarding dual contracts?,I know I know,but!: Sir David Murray denies any use of 'dual contracts' during his time at Ibrox DAVID Murray yesterday poured scorn on accusations Rangers handed out double contracts to players to cover up untaxed payments. He was speaking out for the first time since handing the Ibrox club over to Craig Whyte and admitted it was a “huge mistake”. Murray apologised for letting Whyte get his hands on the club he’d fronted for most of the 23 years he was owner and admitted the decision will probably haunt him for years to come. He said: “I’ll regret this for the rest of my life but I know Rangers will survive because of the fans. This club will prosper again.” As for reports Rangers used double contracts to conceal payments to players – the stories were based on information supplied by former Ibrox director Hugh Adam – Murray dismissed them as fantasy. According to Mike McGill, one of the former chairman’s right-hand men at the Murray Group, Adam had resigned as a director towards the end of 2000, a year before the EBT scheme was introduced. Murray doesn’t see how Adam could have known anything about contracts but McGill said: “The club used an old offshore EBT scheme in 1999 with three players. “That scheme is the subject of the small tax case. The Revenue provided some information to us in early 2011 and we conceded (the £2.8m) based on that information and provided for payment in the club accounts. Whyte did not pay it. “The other scheme was started in 2001 and the larger scheme involves a payment into an offshore trust. But there is no contractual entitlement on the part of the players. That is key to the defence and key to the allegations made by the SFA.” Murray added: “Hugh didn’t know. He wanted to buy Rangers at the time I had the club. He did a great job in running the pools but he became a bit anti-me. “I’ve looked through every year to check my facts and there were no double contracts. Categorically, there were no dual contracts.” When asked if he now regrets the use of EBT schemes McGill said: “We’ve probably said more than we should have on EBTs. “The tribunal judges are about to make a decision and I do not want to be seen to be influencing either way but what I would say is this: We went through 10 AGMs. We signed off accounts by Grant Thornton and the remuneration trust was always mentioned in the account. It was never hidden.” Murray felt he had to give his version because of the pressure and criticism building around him as administrators struggle to keep Rangers going. Also, whether or not he likes it, he must accept responsibility for his part in the club’s downfall. He says he does and added: “I’ve been at crossroads in my life before and I passed through them.” It was a poignant statement because it was 36 years ago to the day yesterday that he lost both legs in a car crash so he isn’t easily unnerved although he does wish he’d never sold to Whyte. He said: “Again, I apologise and if I could turn the clock back, of course I would. “You know when it really hit home for me? I care about the club passionately or I wouldn’t have done it as long but the day he (Whyte) sold the Arsenal shares? “There are bits that belong to the history of a club. I said to Mike, ‘Does he realise what he’s actually done?’ That was a raw nerve, to have done that premeditated. Any sympathy he may have had just gone out the window then.” When asked what he’d say if he met Whyte again, Murray said: “I don’t think we want to go there – I don’t expect many of us will see him again.” Yet shouldn’t alarm bells have been clanging sooner, when Alastair Johnston, the chairman at the time of the takeover, was saying Whyte was not the right person to own the club? No one, he insists, provided evidence to substantiate the rumours. He also said he couldn’t take Paul Murray’s late bid because it didn’t tick enough boxes. He said: “I understand Paul was keen to get the club and I have nothing but respect for him. He wants only the best for the club. “But Paul was not able at that time to give us an offer that was satisfactory for many, many reasons. He wanted debt left in and the tax case put to one side. “Looking at the offer document that went out to shareholders, to buy the club, to invest, in theory Whyte’s was the right deal to do. “Looking back it wasn’t and I can only apologise so many times. I wish I’d never done the deal with Craig Whyte.” It has always been suggested the club’s bankers, Lloyds, who are also the Murray Group’s bank, put the squeeze on Murray to offload Rangers to Whyte but Murray said: “No. The bank wanted their money back, of course, and I’d made it clear I wanted out of Rangers. “We were going into recession and people weren’t queueing up to buy football clubs. But if we’d known of the Ticketus thing we would not have done the deal.” But surely Murray’s own due diligence should have been more thorough? “That’s easy to say now but we did the necessary,” he said, before McGill stepped in again adding: “We had a number of characters who came forward to try to buy the club. That included one fraudulently procured proof-of-funds letter from a reputable bank. It included other parties who claimed to have funds but did not. “What Craig Whyte had that the others did not was the backing of a reputable legal firm. The fact he was clearing money into their clients’ account and the fact they confirmed they had sufficient funds to do the transaction that was being negotiated, goes a long way to being positive confirmation.” Now, of course, the fans know Whyte was not a fit and proper person to own their club and there are many who believe Rangers would be better off in liquidation. They reckon it would be cheaper and easier to deal with creditors but Murray doesn’t agree. Re-emerging as a newco isn’t what he’d like to see and he said: “That’s not in the best interests of the game or Rangers. A CVA would be preferable. “But Scottish football isn’t seen as a great investment. If you’re not a Rangers fan you want to kick Rangers – and I understand that. “But without Rangers the game would be much worse off.” http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footbal...6908-23787536/