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Frankie

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  1. geo: Ian and I are from Tranent; come through with us (if there's room in the car)... Although we may be staying over at a nearby hotel.
  2. Erm, so far. Frankie ian1964 del Cammy gerfem RB And anyone else who fancies it.
  3. You'll be joining us then Geo...?
  4. Injury prone and not worth IMO... More guess work from the 4th Estate. It really is funny watching them all scramble around for info nowadays.
  5. Frankie

    Big Dado

    Both of us. Just noticed the England KO is 5pm. Just fire over for that - I should be back from work by then.
  6. Frankie

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    gazza isn't funny...
  7. RB: That's great mate. Due to my own and my mates personal circumstances, I'm going to hold off buying my tickets until the end of this month: ie about 2 weeks before the event. I suggest everyone who wants to go does the same (it should be around pay day for many of us) and once I know how many Gersnetters are going, I can get the organiser to put us all at one table (or 2 depending on numbers). It really will be a good night and like you say an ideal opportunity to put names to faces (then forget them again as you get drunk)... For �£20 a ticket is really is great value. del, Stu, bmck and I all paid �£50 a ticket for the annual dinner in March and that was worth it even at that price. Colin Stein and Graham Roberts will be staying for a beer or 2 afterwards as well and are always up for a chat and photo opportunities. Hopefully we'll have a few more legends there as well. Phoning one later today as a matter of a fact.
  8. Frankie

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    Cannae see the missus being too enthused with drunken lodgers on a school night... Taxi for del would be about £80... Not really worth it for an England game
  9. Frankie

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    Aye, everyone is welcome...
  10. Frankie

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    Aye he did very well. Worked hard and was unlucky not to score.... Don't know if Marv is fit for the England game. Hope he is. Ian get yourself along to mine tomorrow for the England game if you fancy a couple of shandies. Bev is out and I'm babysitting Bob on my lonesome...
  11. Haha... Never had a problem with it myself... Watte, em Warter, Ronald is easy to spell...
  12. Just to let everyone know that Rangers legend Colin Stein has been added to the speaker list of this superb evening... We're also in talks with more of these guys which really makes the �£20 ticket price look daft.
  13. Go away Smalce you insufferable child.
  14. I'm hoping the club and/or the fans groups will be releasing a follow-up statement very soon.
  15. No problems mate. Pm me with what you want I'll do it tomorrow if I have time at work..
  16. So you're suggesting friends of mine such as Mark Dingwall, Simon Leslie, Davie Edgar and James Carlin are being paid to agree...? Colshy you have written some crap on Gersnet over the last few years. That has just topped it all. If you knew any of the hard working guys above you'd be embarrassed by what you just said.
  17. Read the statement colshy. It's not Rangers banning the song; but UEFA. Read my analysis for more in-depth discussion on the issue. As for any conspiracy between Murray and the likes of TBO/RST, don't daft...
  18. The tune itself is also banned so unfortunately a simple change of lyrics in not applicable.
  19. Thought Iââ?¬â?¢d leave it a couple of days before I commented on the joint club and supporters statement of yesterday concerning the UEFA indictment of two weeks ago. Like most Rangers fans I was disappointed but not surprised when the UEFA charge was ââ?¬Ë?partially upheldââ?¬â?¢. I also believe our club should have backed our fans more and appealed the decision. I donââ?¬â?¢t want to waste anyoneââ?¬â?¢s time debating what songs are ââ?¬Ë?sectarianââ?¬â?¢ and what songs merely offend. We would be here all night. In the event of the UEFA judgement thatââ?¬â?¢s a pointless exercise and although some may be correct in their defence of the contested words and songs, essentially what UEFA says goes. For that reason we all have to realise the club and the criticised supportersââ?¬â?¢ groups had to choice but to make Fridayââ?¬â?¢s statement. No one, least of all the likes of the RST or TBO want to see our historic anthems and heritage destroyed. But sometimes we have to accept the inevitable, regroup, and then move on. ââ?¬Ë?Hullo Hulloââ?¬â?¢ or the ââ?¬Ë?Billy Boys as UEFA has described it is a rousing song. Itââ?¬â?¢s a great tune and its simplistic words never fail to arouse passion amongst the support particularly at bigger games. Unfortunately though, the lyrics (like many of our proud chants) have become bastardised. The official club version has been corrupted to, depending on your opinion, a song glorifying the victories of a notorious Glasgow gang leader or a historic regal figure, both whom fought their own very different battles against the ââ?¬Ë?feniansââ?¬â?¢ of their day. Now, no one is denying Protestant heritage and legend shouldnââ?¬â?¢t have their place in connection with Rangers. Like Celtic are fiercely proud of their Catholic background we too should appreciate our roots. No one, least of all UEFA, should be able to stop people expressing themselves freely. However, football matches at todayââ?¬â?¢s modern stadiums are not necessarily the place for such political viewpoints. Working class sports have always been connected to public opinion but in the days of all-seated stadia and family sections do we really need to listen to chants of FTP and fenian blood? I donââ?¬â?¢t think we do. No matter our opinions we have to move on. The song has been banned and ignorance or stubbornness is no longer an option. The line has been drawn and it can no longer be crossed. Itââ?¬â?¢s not being melodramatic to say that if we do cross it our club will no longer be the famous and proud institution it is. Can we afford to lose it? Because, make no mistake, thatââ?¬â?¢s what will happen if we choose to ignore the directive. Some will argue weââ?¬â?¢re surrendering to our enemies and to an extent I sympathise with that opinion. But, sometimes it takes the bigger person to admit their ills and move forward. Unlike others, Rangers FC and our fans have never hid from our problems. Now, we have a chance to really fix them and rid ourselves of them forever. Yes, it may require a loss of initial pride but we can recover from this. Indeed Iââ?¬â?¢d suggest our position will be stronger if we can accept this ban, educate and help each other to move into what is a new era in Scottish (and if the same rules are applied evenly ââ?¬â?? World) football. Our position will be stronger because we have made the first sacrifice. We will have shown our many detractors that we are capable of change. On an almost daily basis hypocritical people, with their own biased agendas attack us. That wonââ?¬â?¢t end completely ââ?¬â?? we canââ?¬â?¢t be so naive to think so. However, we will have paid our penance and they will never be allowed to forget that. Moreover, at the same time, if we can accept this judgement, the very least we should expect is a change in policy from the other clubs who are as equally guilty of sectarian, bigoted and offensive songs. Going by the UEFA charge, no club or national team is safe from similar sanction. Weââ?¬â?¢ll be watching to make sure this is not an unfair one-off. Weââ?¬â?¢ve already been tried twice and now the sanctions have been placed. We can move forward with a clear conscience. Can the others who sing about terrorists, stadium disasters and horrific injuries do the same? Of course not despite what their very public mouthpieces may suggest. If we do accept this ban, then other will have to come into the firing line. Weââ?¬â?¢ll no longer have the problem. We also have another positive. By standing by our club we will have shown just what Rangers FC really means to us. Of course our club should rightly be considered as a symbol of our past. Ibrox stadium is also a memory to our absent friends and as such we should never treat it lightly by allowing stands to be empty because of our mistakes. Are we really that selfish to lose these magnificent and unrivalled symbols of our faith and history? For one song that we can still sing anywhere else we like? I donââ?¬â?¢t blame anyone for being upset and disappointed by what appears to be a capitulation on our clubââ?¬â?¢s part. But look a bit deeper. Examine the bigger picture. Itââ?¬â?¢s not a big thing in the grand scheme of things. We may have to give a bit of ground here. In fact, we have no real choice. But, if we stand together, we can come out of this stronger. Or we can squabble, fall out, ignore and deny. But thatââ?¬â?¢s never been a winning strategy. It wasnââ?¬â?¢t for the Billy Boys of centuries past. It shouldnââ?¬â?¢t be now either. Season 2006/07 is almost upon us. Weââ?¬â?¢re pretty much debt free; we have an incredible new manager and new players have and will continue to arrive. An exciting new dawn has started. We can reclaim any lost ground on and off the pitch by sticking together. Letââ?¬â?¢s not spoil it by fighting and arguing over little things. We are the people. Letââ?¬â?¢s show it.
  20. I appreciate that Rangers fans will be unhappy with what's happened; especially when one considers who made the UEFA complaints. It's pretty hard to be unfairly singled out. But there's no defence. None. But, no matter. The line has been drawn. We have to abide by that line or face further punishment that could kill our club. We have to self-police and we have to educate the fans among us who don't realise the problems they are causing. However, every other Scottish football fan and these so-called objective pundits and journalists should stand with us to help us rid Scottish football of the sectarian and other disgusting chants. We might be the first team to be punished but if others don't send out the same message Rangers and our fans have done today, then we won't be the last. The people who reported Rangers to UEFA were warned they were opening a can of worms. The can is now opened. Just what else will we find in there? How far is this ruling to go? We've already seen debates and arguments on here about certain words. The debate has now just started.
  21. I'll see what I can do craig... Remember me nearer the time.
  22. End of July usually...
  23. Man is a legend for getting Hastie and I hame safe and well that night... Incredible weather!
  24. I might not be drinking so may take the car. If not, it will be the train unless I book a hotel.
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