Frankie

A fine post with many valid points... I'm certain Murray is aware of how the fans feel through recent meetings with various reps. I'm also certain things are changing for the better but that it will take a wee bit of time. I'd imagine we'll hear more in due course. In the mean time the fans must continue to raise their grievances with the parties involved (and the club) to ensure Murray continues to take further action against our enemies. It's taken some time for Murray to open his eyes and appreciate our position. In that time much ground has been lost and too many mistakes made. However, I'm confident last week's interesting statement is the start of a new , more steadfast club which is proud of it's fans and it's history. The new season is going to be very interesting on and off the park.

Cammy, I can assure the club will be...

Not done it, but they should be good quality given empics reputation... Thinking of ordering the PLG trophy room one myself. Let me know how you get on Danny...

Only if I wear my beret and onions... Being a geordie, she's away to bed in the huff after England getting beat.

My sweep 'selection' goes from strength to strength... Guaranteed a score now...

I'm lucky to get to go to Ibrox every second week... She's actually pretty understanding as Rangers takes up a rather large part of my life nowadays through the RST/TBO etc...

Not going over myself mate. Skint with getting married and all... Enjoy yourself!

Using PayPal and a Swich card is arguably more safe than sending money or a cheque through Royal Mail... But if that's what people want to do, pm del or Cammy and I'm sure they'll provide their address.

Once we have the PayPal link you don't need to be a member to pay... As long as you have a Switch card, it's easily done. Great work on this guys. Count me in for a donation once the link is up.

gersnet.info loyal if possible... (Gersnet.net isn't working again...)

Seemingly Lyon now want £2million... If that's true then the deal will be dead.

Oh Murray has a large ego that needs constant massaging no doubt about it. But he's 56, is getting married and I've no doubt he feels the time is almost right for him to retire to France and his vineyards. When I see David Murray nowadays I see an aging, tired man. He doesn't need the emotional stuff that Rangers brings. First and foremost he's a business man who likes to make money. Rangers don't make money any more and he doesn't have the same attachment the rest of us have to the club IMO.

£12K a week is probably a fair estimate of the first team average wage (although it's possibly less than that now) and you're right, for that kind of money the players should be offering more than they did last season. Unless we move on the high earners such as Fanfan and Klos who (last season at least) were earning their money for doing nothing, there won't be much more money to spend. I doubt we've got any more than a few million to spend (excluding money to spend from guys like Namouchi who may leave).

I don't think Namouchi is on anywhere near £12K per week... More like a third or maybe half that.

Can't say I'd be disappointed if he left. Particularly if we could get ~£500K for him.

Guys: I now have a number of tickets for the Bastille Night. Can everyone who wants to go pm me so I can arrange you to receive yours? Everyone is invited and the evening shall be totally informal, so a great chance to meet a few of the guys on here and meet a few Rangers legends who will all be available for questions and photo opportunities. All in the splendid surroundings of the centrally-located Thistle Hotel supplemented by a first class Mr Singh's Indian Buffet. �£20 is real value here.

http://www.gersnet.info/fmrangers/newmain/280606.html Recently, there has been a lot of talk on the online community about club finances and where it stands in this regard. Firstly, Iââ?¬â?¢d like to make clear that I am in no way a financial expert but the claim in the title is simply from reading between the lines regarding various stories and issues over the last year or so. My main evidence submission, curiously missed by many, is a Sunday Times business article from 2 months ago by John Penman (link available below). Seems to me Mr Murray is trying to tell us something which makes this subject so interesting worth while discussing. Last year we made, conservatively, around Ã?£12million from our exciting Championsââ?¬â?¢ league campaign. A few months back the chairman also announced the ââ?¬Ë?selling of the jerseysââ?¬â?¢ (literally) by outsourcing our successful retail operations to JJB Sports for Ã?£18million. Thatââ?¬â?¢s around Ã?£30million of investment which should bring our ongoing debt to around the -Ã?£10million mark ââ?¬â?? probably less. In other words, the club is on its most secure financial footing for a good number of years. Looking at the ever-decreasing share price you might find that contradicts this somewhat. However, that could be explained by a falling market (which is partly true) and/or someone selling shares at a fair rate. Who owns 91.8% of the shares again so has a few spare to sell? Indeed, further evidence, from Murray himself, indicates the club is available. Interviewed recently in the ââ?¬Ë?Sunday Timesââ?¬â?¢, regarding his biography; Murray says he has his ââ?¬Ë?sights on leaving the club in someone elseââ?¬â?¢s handsââ?¬â?¢. That may not be imminent but that shows his ââ?¬Ë?ambitionsââ?¬â?¢. Several other aspects of Murrayââ?¬â?¢s current business strategy and his personal life point towards a man changing his goals and his way of life. He recently sold his Murray International Metals group for Ã?£120million and has moved aggressively into the property scene. His Premier Property Group owns shopping centres and office buildings all over the UK. It has just embarked on a Ã?£50m speculative office development in the heart of Glasgow and its MIH parent group has borrowed nearly Ã?£500million to fund more ventures. Murray also announced his engagement this year and his intention to buy at least one more vineyard to the one he owns in France. A man making many changes then and important ones at that. Some may argue that the exciting appointment of Paul Le Guen, one of the finest young managers in World football, is a signal that he intends to take Rangers back to the forefront of the UK game. Iââ?¬â?¢d counter that this appointment and the other staff changes made within the club recently are only to attract a potential buyer. Certainly the minimal (but fiscally prudent) alleged transfer budget afforded to Le Guen doesnââ?¬â?¢t indicate a chairman prepared to go out on a limb to achieve his footballing ambitions. It shows a chairman keeping finances tight while having the club on a sound footing at every level (financial and staff), and importantly for this article, ready for sale. So who would take over the club? That is the main question here, since it appears to be a case of not if Murray will move on but when, who will take over? It wonââ?¬â?¢t be any of his sons as Murray doesnââ?¬â?¢t want them to have the same emotional and time rollercoaster he has had during his tenure. Although a Russian billionaire (Vladimir Lisin) has moved into an estate next door to Murrayââ?¬â?¢s in Perthsire such a buyer also seems unlikely. Murray rightly questions the hunger and attachment such a buyer would feel so perhaps the eternal links to Tom Hunter may be more likely. However, Hunter himself recently sold his stake in JJB Sports for Ã?£72million and his West Coast Capital investment company is also currently working with other such vehicles to move into other corporate areas. As such, an investment in Rangers by Hunter also looks off the mark. Perhaps we could look towards the background of Donald McIntyre, the new Rangers finance director for clues. McIntyre, a Chartered Accountant, has held senior financial positions within Stakis plc, Hilton Group plc, Hewden Stuart plc and latterly as Group Financial Controller at Macdonald Hotels Limited. Maybe one of these companies might be interested in a football investment particularly when you consider the ongoing RFC casino project. Vegas Sands who are in partnership with RFC for this leisure expansion may provide the biggest clue yet but are they a red herring? Also in the frame is the Rangers Supportersââ?¬â?¢ Trust. Their recent ShareSave initiative enables all fans to buy a stake in the club while proxying their holding to the Trust. Itââ?¬â?¢s only the initial stages of the project but already it seems successful and interest is high. Itââ?¬â?¢s also backed by the club and high net worth investors are taking part. Thus, while the RST may not be a buying contender per se, their increasing holding and undoubted increasing say of late means the may form a large part of any future boardroom changes. No matter the names suggested its all speculation at this stage but interesting nonetheless. Certainly, from the fansââ?¬â?¢ point of view, any new owner would still have over 90% of the shares. This has to be addressed in order for us to be able to influence the clubââ?¬â?¢s eventual new owner and avoid some of the problems weââ?¬â?¢ve had with the current one. Many fans are fed up with David Murray and have advocated an ownership change for several years. It seems that change is coming then ââ?¬â?? maybe not today, maybe not next year but it will happen sooner rather than later. Only then, will we know just how good a chairman and owner David Murray really is. Sources: ââ?¬Å?Reaping rewards from life's touchlineââ?¬Â http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9070-2157688.html Rangers Supportersââ?¬â?¢ Trust ShareSave scheme http://www.rangerssupporterstrust.co.uk/ss.html

Some nasty person took the gersnet.info off that mock up done by me a few months back. Seemingly it is to be like that but the diagonal will run the other way if you know what I mean.

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Certainly good value... Perhaps he has a minimum fee releae clause or his contract is up soon. Would imagine there will be a few clubs interested at that rather low price.

Clement bid is ongoing... Rangers don't want to pay £1million so at the moment there's a bit of a stalemate.

Plenty time left for signings mate. The media don't have a clue what our budget is and/or what players we're interested in.

You wouldn't have got it mate. You're a Rangers fan. Martin Bain doesn't allow Rangers fans in any job over £20K per year.