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bmck

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  1. I think your analysis of him as a player is spot on, and hard to argue with. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad signing, though, as that brings in different other factors such as 'could you have got more for less' and 'despite his limitations, have we had our money's worth?' etc. For me he falls into the not-that-great-footballer-but-in-the-scale-of-things-decent-signing category along with people like Broadfoot, Murray, McInness etc. It's certainly preferable to good-football-player-but-bad-signing which boasts people like Flo and Kanchelskis who were undeniably talented but underdelivered relative to things like fees and wages.
  2. Oh you don't have to, you just choose to
  3. I'd really like quite liked to have known what it was, but we can't have them on the forum. PM is fine though.
  4. HAHAHAHAHAHAA. GET IT RIGHT UP YE YA JUDAS. Kidding S_A, just kidding Terrible when that happens to anyone. He's always been so injury prone. Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
  5. In the absence of good football owners, I'll take a rich dodgy one over a skint one.
  6. the quotes were particularly good. i feel much happier about him after reading them.
  7. So people don't believe Bain that it's dead and the offer's off the table? It's just part of a power play?
  8. It's because the people who know what it is think it's beneath them to actually say what it is. Or those that are willing to say, it turns out to be fairly common sense things that people believe anyway. It's better to have integrity than not etc. I agree with everything wabash says, but it's not tradition, it's just decency. And he's right to say the custodian has fallen short of that. I think it's quite often just used as an ellaborate way of saying "I'm a better supporter than you are, even though I can't say why".
  9. Nothing to do with Rangers, but plenty. I think you're bizarrely vain to think I'd feel the need to justify myself to you.
  10. I'll not disagree with that. I'm a Blakean mystic. "What is now proved was once only imagined"
  11. Bloody hell, you do hit out with the obscure quotes. But I can see the point. Perhaps it's my relative youth, but I still think moaning's just what you do when you've not got the energy for action
  12. It must be interesting for a player whose played in England on big wages and stuff at mediocre clubs. I mind when we went down to see Birmingham earlier in the year. They're a massive wage club, but when we went into the sort of executive lounge or whatever it was after the game, you could see how out of synch it is. It was an average ground, and their fancy bit looked quite like a canteen. It was a great experience, big Eck was utterly superb, but Birmingham from their ground to their whole setup are just on nothing like the same level of stature, regardless of the money they have to throw around. It must be a shock for a player whose played down South to come and see the size and stature of a club like ours. If Eagles wasn't impressed enough to cut wages I'm glad he didn't come.
  13. Hope fecking Jelavic reads those quotes
  14. The quotes to save clicking: "I'm delighted to sign for such as club as Glasgow Rangers," he said. "It's been quite a quick deal to be done as far as I was concerned. I came to Ibrox on Thursday morning, I was met by the gaffer (Walter Smith) and chief executive Martin Bain. "I was shown around the stadium which is magnificent. It's the first time I've been there. You can see straight away it's a club steeped in history. "To walk out even when the stadium was empty was quite something, I'm looking forward to walking out when it's full. "I had quite a long chat with the gaffer and he spelled out what he wanted me to do and I told him what I wanted to come here and do. "It was between the two clubs to settle on a fee and I'm glad to say that's all finished now and I'm sat here and I have signed. I'll probably get to know how big the club is as I play." The expectation and the demands that are going to be made of me were outlined by the gaffer when he talked to me," he added. "That's something that I relish and I'm looking forward to very much. I suppose being a striker and a goalscorer there's always pressure on you to produce the goods and as I see it there's not better stage than this, playing for the biggest club in Scotland or maybe in Europe. "It was an easy decision to leave Stoke as I wasn't required there anymore and when a club like Glasgow Rangers comes in and expresses their interest in you and you have a chat with someone like Walter Smith and you are shown round a stadium and the facilities...it makes everything else pretty easy."
  15. Can't disagree with a word of that. It's probably all going to have to run it's course and once, and it will, all the debt gets called in, it may regain some sanity. The only thing is, if it's completely inevitable and there's nothing you can about it, it seems pointless to complain.
  16. I think that's spot on, and sums up my feelings too. The question is, what do you do? Some people take MF's approach, and show their objection to the erosion of these things by not going. Others are pissed off, but think Rangers are bigger than the owners, and show loyalty in going to games and supporting the team. Both have good points and it comes down to preference. I think money's royally screwed us all. People don't want something to believe in, they want an afternoon's entertainment. And I bet there have been as many supporters like that through the ages as there are now. We can't go back in time, we can't undo modern obsession with money and we can't undo television. The question remains - what can we do? Clearly, taking what you've said it would be perfectly possible to run Rangers for the betterment of the club - it is possible to be honest, and have integrity. Don't think it's possible to run out greed as it's hard to define anything more than an average professional wage for a month's work as being greedy. I suppose it would be possible to say "no-one can come unless they're happy to play for Rangers for a few grand a month" but we'd end up with poor players. I actually quite like that idea, but we'd very quickly see diminishing crowds and not be able to pay the bills. Maybe that would root out the glory hunters. What kind of things would you change? In practical terms.
  17. Pete, I tried to 'Thanks' one of your earlier posts and with clumbsy fecking mod rights I removed the existing thanks. Sorry mate
  18. It has mate, but it's an interesting discussion
  19. Wabash, cheers for that, but it doesn't answer the question. I fully agree that our current custodian hasn't put Rangers first. Almost everyone agrees with that. Are there any other traditions? What does putting the club first practically involve that isn't being done now?
  20. That's well written and quite stirring, but I don't know exactly what it means. What morals are timeless? What pride in the past has been santised exactly? I'm not going to disagree that Murray's been, overall, a poor custodian. I think he's ungentlemanly and fundamentally dishonest. I agree wholeheartedly that those that serve Rangers should be strong, gentlemanly and decorous. I'm proud to support a club with a long and rich tradition of that. But I'm not a Victorian; I sincerely doubt Rangers fans have ever been protestant, if that's what this tradition is. If you were in charge what would you do different? What's wrong with Rangers supporters? What did we have pre-Murray, that we don't have now? If we were more united then, what were we united around? What positive morals did we have then we don't have now? I've never known anything but Murray, but I come from a long line of Rangers supporters. Most of them can't afford a season ticket, and the whole market of who football's aimed at has changed. But what can you do? What is the better way we could be, and what could you, in practical terms, to get there? Again, not looking for a debate, I just want to know more fully what you're getting at.
  21. What are these traditions? Without quoting. In practical terms? What are they and how have we came up short? I'm not saying we don't have them, I genuinly want to know.
  22. Maybe it's just me
  23. The guy looks like he needs to lose a few pounds. He makes Mr. Boyd look svelte.
  24. http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/191653-rangers-sign-james-beattie-from-stoke-city/ Woo?
  25. Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.
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