chilledbear

It's usually the nutters who are in charge anyway. Good shout a 'fan marshall.'

I don't believe it is just the Police, we just need to look at the ParliamentS in both London and Edinburgh. Though I did laugh[?] when I noticed the following. Speaking to an audience of superintendents in Warwickshire, Mr Winsor said it was unfair to expect overworked prosecutors to correct documents. Mr Winsor said: ‘Why is the entrance test for a police constable now so low? The educational requirements, why are they so low? Mr Winsor, the lawyer reviewing police conditions, said reading, writing and mathematical skills have fallen 'significantly' since the 1930s ‘We looked at the basic questions, one of which is, 'You find a purse in the street, it contains a £5 note, four 20p pieces and five two pence pieces, how much is in the purse?' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2037027/Some-police-officers-barely-literate-educational-standards-low.html#ixzz1Zt1eAjli

Forty years ago they would have been thrown out by the Supporters.

It would be so easy and obvious for the Justice Commitee en masse, to get along to Ibrox on a Match day, and see for themselves. But then they might find out what they don't want to know. I'm sure the MSP knew Stuart Waiton was at Ibrox on Saturday, but does anyone care anymore if there are lies told, as long as the legislation is forced through.

Not only Police.

What's even worse is the comment from selltic. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Celtic-fans-hurl-abuse-at.6847421.jp?articlepage=1 "However small a minority, Celtic absolutely condemns such negative behaviour. We do hope photographs of the home support wearing 'John Wilson' masks receive the same level of analysis."

This guy is on the justice commitee. He has since replied again saying he didn't mean Saturdays game. As we can all see, he definately did mean Saturdays game, and all listeners who wouldn't know otherwise, will still think there are songs of this nature being sung at Ibrox.

The above MSP was on Radio Scotland on Monday morning. This is a transcript from BBC iPlayer, he was in a debate with Stuart Waiton. SW - "There was not a single offensive song because they are already terrified of being arrested." HY - "You clearly weren't in the stadium then because you must have not heard what a particular number of people who were at the game heard" SW - "I was at the game actually I was sitting with The Blue Order" HY - "Well then clearly you had your earplugs in then because if you couldn't hear what some of the offensive songs that were being sung." SW - "What were the songs?" HY - Ignores question. When challenged by e-mail, he sent this reply. Dear Sirs, Thank you for your email regarding my comments on the radio earlier today. I hope you do not mind me including you in a single email as all twelve of your emails were almost identical and touching upon the same issue it would therefore make sense to do. I am not sure if you heard the Radio Interview this morning? It sounds like it has been incorrectly referred to by some or perhaps I was not clear enough in my own communications. At no point in the interview did I mention the game at Ibrox this weekend. During the interview, I was discussing general offensive songs being sung and in this case I was referring to, though didnâ??t explicitly mention, the Celtic Vs. -Hearts game which, I heard on the radio and a close friend of mine attended and to which I enquired about the singing that took place therein. My point was not actually to do with so-called sectarian singing at that match, or for this matter any other match, but was to say that I do not have a problem with offensive songs being sung at football matches. My problem and the issue this legislation tries to address is offensive singing and behaviours that are likely to incite public disorder it â?? I am sure we all share a common goal of wanting to see public disorder and violence tackled in the context of football matches. Once again I am happy to reiterate that at no point do I reference the game at Ibrox this Saturday. I made my comments about the weekendâ??s game and Dr Waitonâ??s attendance without meaning to refer to that specific game â?? so I can understand where the confusion may have arisen from and happy to apologise if it came across incorrectly. I hope football fans, of which I am one, are able to have a mature and reasoned debate whereby we can agree that there is clearly a problem in and around football matches by a minority of fans. Unfortunately, their actions are tarnishing the majority and bringing our national game into disrepute â?? with the ridiculous spectacle of UEFA fining our nationâ??s football clubs while Scottish footballing bodies look on at the side-lines. This bill will not criminalise anyone who does not attempt to incite public disorder, football fans can be as unsavoury and offensive as they like to each other â?? as unpleasant as that may be â?? without fear of arrest. Freedom of speech is a right I would defend to the death; however, even I recognise that it is not an unfettered freedom. Once again thank you for your email and let me reassure you I certainly was not referring to the game you were all clearly in attendance at but having listened once again to my interview I can see how you might have derived that conclusion so therefore let me apologise again if the communication error was indeed on my side, it certainly was not intended. Kind regards, Humza Humza Yousaf MSP MSP for Glasgow 0131 348 6209 Email: humza.yousaf.msp@scottish.parliament.uk FB: http://www.facebook.com/humza.yousaf Twitter: http://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf Website: http://votesnp.com/hhy

He seems to be in Oz more than Scotland.

I think it's just that some aren't the brightest.

The Supporter Organisations must ask the question WHY. No sectarian chanting or singing, what reason for the intimidation?

In a strange way, the police and stewards attempt to intimidate BF1, could lead to surprising results. It looks to me, that support for the section is spreading to other parts of Ibrox. Supporters who in the past would have been happy to see the demise of TBO, can see the unfairness and over-reaction of the ones in charge. It might actually unite the Support.

There were more bottles on the pitch at Everton, than in the Stands at Ibrox, and nothing will be said or written about it. Were there any arrests or ejections in BF1 yesterday ?

Now we get to the heart of the matter. A bit like the Airports in fact.

I don't believe we can't be trusted with plastic bottles of water. We're being treated like children, and accepting it. There's more trouble at Concerts etc. yet nothing is said.

Been waiting to see who would bring up the fact that you can't take a bottle of water into the game. Lo and behold it's someone from outside Scotland. Crazy rules.

This is part of a report in the Record about the spat between Broadfoot and Pascali. Why would any responsible newspaper [i've answered my own question, I know ] publish this part? ''The fall-out from the war of words is set to linger and Pascali admits he's now worried for the safety of his family in the streets of Glasgow with many Rangers fans perhaps already having decided who is the guilty party. He said: "A lot of people will look at him as a Rangers player while I am only a Kilmarnock players so they will trust him. "If Broadfoot can look himself in the mirror and see the truth then I'm happy for him but it's now his word against mine. "My wife is worried about walking in Glasgow now and wondering if it was safe to meet Rangers fans who maybe now think I wanted to kill one of their players. Broadfoot has stepped over the edge because it's now affecting my wife and family."

''Why are these games not played in Scotland? With the players on show, I'd have gone to see the game.'' It was mate.

There are definately issues with the Stewarding that need to be looked into.

The authorities, police included, seem to think a football fan is not an ordinary member of the public. The banners last night, if repeated around the ground [may I say it, at Porkheid as well] might just get a few people thinking.

Any business oriented folk on here who would like to comment on the last 7 paragraphs ??

The way it's panning out, things will only get worse. Young lads are going to be criminalised for what in the past would have been a kick up the arse. People can see it is grossly unfair and an over-reaction, which could result in a serious disturbance.

This bit. "I would shoulder responsibility for that because, initially we wanted to sit back give them the ball and then go and get it. But that didn't really work and we should have changed it a bit quicker.'' Then this. "Hibs will make it difficult for us but it's a home game and we will take the game to the opposition." Something been lost in the translation ???

I've read most of these walked out in protest.

If Bain loses does he owe Rangers??