Is Ally the Man for the job? - The McCoist Thread

[the gunslinger 3,366]

I agree entirely with you on this.

 

Football is actually an easy game, it really is. Not everyone can do it properly and that is why we are on an online forum and not doing it for a living. But if you can control, pass, move and keep your head up then you have broken the back of much of the game.

 

We should be using this time to literally pass the shit out of teams. If you can pass around teams they will tire quicker too, creating more time and space for you.

 

We should have the players to do this and given we are full time pros we should be looking to do this all the time in training.

 

I know I have said this before but Bermuda has a consultancy agreement with Jacques Crevoisier (well respected educator at UEFA and was 1st team coach at Liverpool when Houllier was there) and in Europe there is a general belief that your training sessions should be 60% technical with the other 40% used on tactical and physical. I suspect that we are not even close to that at Rangers.

 

Unfortunately in British football the physicality usually stumps technical prowess. Arsenal havent won anything in years despite probably having the most technical game in the EPL. Take them into one of the big European leagues and they would do reasonably well, but not in the UK. Too much emphasis on physical attributes and not enough on technical attributes.

 

There are a number of players in the UK have had trials at big teams and not been signed because "you are too small" - we need to rid ourselves of such primitive thinking if we are to evolve as a country (all the home nations are included in that).

 

Sadly I wont be holding my breath.

 

great post mate and couldn't agree more.

[Zappa 0]

I actually believe we have a golden opportunity to tear up the Scottish football play book.

 

we could easily do what barca do and practice with the ball at each and every training session.

 

forgett specialist fitness work or studying the opposition or set piece play.

 

work entirely on technical skills for 3 or 4 hrs a day.

 

I think this is a cracking suggestion. To my mind, our players should be doing the majority of their fitness work in their own time in afternoons and evenings, then after the final session at Auchenhowie the day before a match their fitness levels get accurately checked and assessed. As well as that, the actual session at Auchenhowie each day shouldn't include a warm up and warm down, this should also be done in the players' own time before and after the sessions, so they should be there 30 mins earlier and leave 30 mins later than they do just now.

[craig 5,199]

I think this is a cracking suggestion. To my mind, our players should be doing the majority of their fitness work in their own time in afternoons and evenings, then after the final session at Auchenhowie the day before a match their fitness levels get accurately checked and assessed. As well as that, the actual session at Auchenhowie each day shouldn't include a warm up and warm down, this should also be done in the players' own time before and after the sessions, so they should be there 30 mins earlier and leave 30 mins later than they do just now.

 

I know what you are saying here Zappa but I agree AND disagree, and it may be tough for me to explain.

 

Disagree in that I think that a warm up and cool down session should be during the training time, not the player's own time. Agree because it should be that they literally have to spend an additional amount of time each day on sessions. i.e. if training is normally for 3 hours but includes an hour for warm up and cool down then training should now be for 4 hours but including those sessions. Make sense ?

 

BTW, you dont need even close to a 30 minute warm up or cool down time. 15 minutes either side is ample, though I will leave S_A (the sports scientist) to guide us with that one.

 

Let me say this though... I just spent 3 hours on Saturday doing a UEFA equivalence coaching exam (we use Crevoisier who is UEFA but Bermuda is under CONCACAF so it has to be an "equivalence" exam. Number of hours required are actually more than in the UK) and even if you are working on the technical side of the game it is VERY tiring physically.

 

We had to co-ordinate training sessions and if you werent the one co-ordinating then you had to participate physically.

 

Not one of our sessions was about fitness or physical, all of it was ball work and even the fittest of us (not me, clearly) were exhausted by the end of the session.

 

We then did the same thing again yesterday for 4 hours and I assure you that it was very physically demanding... but, yet again, it was ALL ball work - control, dribbling, passing, shooting, pass and move, running with the ball, heading, goalkeeping - All of it was ball work yet all of it was physically challenging.

 

What I am saying is that you can spend 100% of your time on doing technical exercises and you will still improve your fitness, especially as full time professionals if you are working that amount of time i.e. 3 hours a day.

 

But what SHOULD be happening is that there should be even say 60-90 minutes a day working on physical fitness and then spending 3 hours AT LEAST (in my opinion) working on the technical side of the game.

[GovanAllan 0]

Ok Craig you asked " Crap and more Crap".

 

Its the same old tired excuses time after time we need time to settle, I don't see the time we need to settle when we hammer a team 5-1 at Ibrox, although in those games we started like a geriatric tortoise as well the difference may be the 50K starting to rumble that gets their arse in gear.

 

He then tells us they've had a meeting to clear the air, did they not have this same meeting after the Berwick game to clear the air and we were told it was all sorted the players know what's expected of them and we go forward from here. Obviously Ally's idea of moving forward is different from mine.

 

We even have Sandaza complaining the pitch was too hard he's playing on a 4G surface it's the best surface he's going see outside of Ibrox all season and before we get they aren't used to it they have a 4G surface at Murray park so if they aren't used to it then the coaching team is again failing badly.

 

So that Craig is why I said crap and more crap.

[kuznetsov 0]

the attendance tonight will tell us alot about whether ally still has support amongst the fans.

[craig 5,199]

Ok Craig you asked " Crap and more Crap".

 

Its the same old tired excuses time after time we need time to settle, I don't see the time we need to settle when we hammer a team 5-1 at Ibrox, although in those games we started like a geriatric tortoise as well the difference may be the 50K starting to rumble that gets their arse in gear.

 

He then tells us they've had a meeting to clear the air, did they not have this same meeting after the Berwick game to clear the air and we were told it was all sorted the players know what's expected of them and we go forward from here. Obviously Ally's idea of moving forward is different from mine.

 

We even have Sandaza complaining the pitch was too hard he's playing on a 4G surface it's the best surface he's going see outside of Ibrox all season and before we get they aren't used to it they have a 4G surface at Murray park so if they aren't used to it then the coaching team is again failing badly.

 

So that Craig is why I said crap and more crap.

 

But you will agree that some of what he said makes sense too, right ? or are you just a HAD to use that smilie

[the gunslinger 3,366]

I disagree kuznetzov. tonight's attendance will reflect things like

 

the ramsdens cup

midweek

on tv

v qots.

 

much more than anything. frankly more than 20k could be called a vote of support for super.

[calscot 0]

the attendance tonight will tell us alot about whether ally still has support amongst the fans.

 

Don't think it will. There are a lot of factors in how big an attendance is for a Tuesday night Challenge Cup match against a team like Queen of the South.

 

It also depends on your interpretation of the said attendance. What is low and what is high?

 

There is no real precedent for that competition but that kind of fixture in the early rounds of the League Cup wouldn't normally be high.

 

I'm not sure what we can interpret from it. If it's a huge attendance, that will not mean Ally is completely endorsed and if there is a low attendance it doesn't say the fans have turned against him.

[kuznetsov 0]

I disagree kuznetzov. tonight's attendance will reflect things like

 

the ramsdens cup

midweek

on tv

v qots.

 

much more than anything. frankly more than 20k could be called a vote of support for super.

 

i disagree. 20000 would be embarassing.

[kuznetsov 0]

Don't think it will. There are a lot of factors in how big an attendance is for a Tuesday night Challenge Cup match against a team like Queen of the South.

 

It also depends on your interpretation of the said attendance. What is low and what is high?

 

There is no real precedent for that competition but that kind of fixture in the early rounds of the League Cup wouldn't normally be high.

 

I'm not sure what we can interpret from it. If it's a huge attendance, that will not mean Ally is completely endorsed and if there is a low attendance it doesn't say the fans have turned against him.

 

35000 would be a cut off point taking into account all factors.