Max Rebo's Big Blue Nose 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Why do they feel the need to comment when no other club has? Says it all really 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuznetsov 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 i believe with this statement they have admitted they were behind all this from the start. well we know they were. celtic minded lawyers, celtic run spl and celtic minded mhedia driving the agenda. corrupt to the core. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Real PapaBear 0 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Why do they feel the need to comment when no other club has? Says it all really well, you can understand their disappointment, Max. After all, they've invested a lot of time, effort and money trying to steal titles that we won on the field and now they have nothing to show for it? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,448 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 CORRECT me if I’m wrong but didn’t Lord Nimmo Smith find Rangers guilty this week? Didn’t the respected QC study the old club’s use of EBTs and decide they were actually up to no good? He didn’t strip them of the titles, to the relief of everyone associated with Ibrox. But he could have. And let’s be honest about it — he probably SHOULD have. Don’t get me wrong, as far as I’m concerned, the five championships lifted between 2000 and 2011 were won fair and square. And in my eyes the Rangers players did absolutely nothing wrong by signing the contracts with benefit trusts. Do me a favour. There isn’t a footballer in the world who would turn his nose up at a tax avoidance deal worth hundreds of thousands of pounds. But I’ve got to be honest and say that the reaction from Charles Green to the ruling sticks in my throat. I like Green. He calls it as he sees it and has done a good job at Ibrox since taking over from Craig Whyte. But this idea that Rangers are owed apologies from anyone and everyone who demanded they be stripped of titles is a joke. You would think he’d realise Rangers have won a watch here. They’ve been let off lightly with the fine which, by the way, will only be added to the pot of debt for the Oldco. It’ll never be paid. A fortune has been spent on the case with legal fees going through the roof. The general reaction to the decision was that Rangers won but that’s not how I saw it. At the end of the day Lord Nimmo Smith ruled that Rangers DID break the rules. He just didn’t think it was a crime worthy of taking titles. What was it he said, they ‘didn’t gain any sporting advantage’ which is why he only dished out a fine. To my mind his ruling and punishment contradicts itself but it seems to be the SPL rule book possibly stopped him from going heavier on Rangers. I’d have thought they’d realise that, accept they’ve been let off the hook, and move on. And that’s what I thought was happening. I initially read quotes from Green early on the Thursday afternoon saying he wanted to draw a line under the affair. ‘Good response’, I thought to myself. ‘That’s exactly what you should be saying’. But by tea time the Yorkshireman was in front of TV cameras and unable to stop himself from saying something to appeal to the punters. His demand for apologies will only rub non-Rangers fans up the wrong way. Not that he’ll care about that of course. Listen, I want to stress this — the ex-Ibrox players who signed these deals did NOTHING wrong. It wasn’t just their agents or financial advisers telling them the EBTs were all above board and kosher. It was Rangers, the club. I came close to signing for the club myself and had they offered to pay me a few hundred grand on the side I’d have snatched their hand off. There isn’t a player who wouldn’t. In fact, I’m sure it’s the sort of arrangement which still goes on at the big clubs in the UK and abroad. With the amount of cash swirling around the game in England there will be off-shore accounts all over the place. But as a club Rangers must have known there was a danger this could bite them on the backside years down the line. And that’s exactly what happened. I just believe that if Lord Nimmo Smith did think they were at it then surely he would have been well within his rights to take their trophies. It would have been harsh on the players — wrong even — but that was the risk the club was willing to take and they would have been forced to accept full responsibility for that. Green said months ago he wasn’t going to play ball with the commission or even recognise its decision. He seemed to forget about that as he celebrated. He must have been terrified on Thursday morning when the report was on its way, knowing the fallout would be huge. Ally McCoist and everyone else will tell you now they weren’t ever worried the decision would go against them. Nonsense. They’d have been worried all right and no wonder. I just hope this outcome does draw a line under everything because the whole saga became so tiresome. I want to get back to the days when everyone talked about the football, purely and simply. That is the biggest positive anyone can take from this because had it gone the other way it would have rubbed on forever. by John Hartson 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fat welsh twat. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 hartson like all trollocs is willfully misunderstanding the point. the sfa and spl tried to remove trophies from us without trial. we deserve more than an apology for that. the kind of people who can do that must go before someone really suffers at their hands. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,299 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Those who sought to remove these titles via the 5 way agreement at the start of this season must be outed. I don't believe it was just Regan & Doncaster. The whole damn lot of them must be revealed by means of a public enquiry if need be like Gordon Smith suggested. This matter must not be aloowed to rest until we get answers 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,286 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) On a different note, I read this morning the first wave of "responses" from the Scum's head-honcho and time and again "side-payments" of up to 47m are mentioned. Now, unless I am mistaken, almost all of the EBT were done correctly, and only a handful (weren't it just 5) were actually under investigation? Can someone help clarifying this so we wield that cudgel as well? EDIT ... just found the relevant "sure to be true" - info on the BBC's website (<- click; can't post it since shape would get lost). Would like to know how anyone got hold of that list and the exact figures. Edited March 2, 2013 by der Berliner 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It wasn’t just their agents or financial advisers telling them the EBTs were all above board and kosher. It was Rangers, the club. better add the First tier tribunal, and the SPL Independent commission to that list as well since they have now deemed the EBT to have been "above board and kosher". Don't forget to add the question "why did they tell everyone the it was above board & kosher????" Coz it was!!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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