Steve1872 4 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Rangers FC Official @RFC_Official 43m Some information from the #Rangers Head of Safety: For the avoidance of doubt, only surfing banners have been banned by police. [1/3] The match has been categorised high risk & police are concerned these will be used as cover for fans inclined to set off pyrotechnics. [2/3] All the usual flags and banners are welcome provided these are inoffensive. [3/3] Enjoy the match tomorrow! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Ah i get it now, they will be worried incase the surfer falls of the banner and hurts himself. Edited April 6, 2014 by aweebluesoandso 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebear54 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Rangers FC Official @RFC_Official 43mSome information from the #Rangers Head of Safety: For the avoidance of doubt, only surfing banners have been banned by police. [1/3] The match has been categorised high risk & police are concerned these will be used as cover for fans inclined to set off pyrotechnics. [2/3] All the usual flags and banners are welcome provided these are inoffensive. [3/3] Enjoy the match tomorrow! Way I see it is that, if Police Scotland want to enforce any laws, they should be the ones who are making the statements. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 The Club finally speaking out clears things up, but it raises serious questions as to why Police Scotland were supposedly denying earlier today that any banners were banned from the match when the Club are now officially telling the fans that large surfers have been banned from the match by the Police. The news will be very disappointing for the RSCs which had planned to take surfer banners. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hildy made a good point earlier on and it seems to have been borne out by what the Police have now said; i.e. the stupid wee fannies who thought it was smart to set off pyro have caused this problem. There was never an issue before with surfers and any issue now is not caused by an anti-rangers agenda within the police force - it's something which has only raised its head since halfwit twats decided to copy their timmy friends and start letting off fireworks at football games. btw, der Berliner, keep doing what you're doing, bud: sometimes we need the rational view from afar. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The Club finally speaking out clears things up, but it raises serious questions as to why Police Scotland were supposedly denying earlier today that any banners were banned from the match when the Club are now officially telling the fans that large surfers have been banned from the match by the Police. The news will be very disappointing for the RSCs which had planned to take surfer banners. I understood that was always the case, since yesterday anyway. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hildy made a good point earlier on and it seems to have been borne out by what the Police have now said; i.e. the stupid wee fannies who thought it was smart to set off pyro have caused this problem. There was never an issue before with surfers and any issue now is not caused by an anti-rangers agenda within the police force - it's something which has only raised its head since halfwit twats decided to copy their timmy friends and start letting off fireworks at football games. btw, der Berliner, keep doing what you're doing, bud: sometimes we need the rational view from afar. I don't know if you can entirely blame the Rangers' fans for this ban. I agree they are numpties for using the flares, but there is history with the Police actions in this area. That is not to say that there is any difference between our numpties and their numpties. http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/st-johnstone-lift-ban-on-flags-and-banners-for-celtic-game-1.1637335 St Johnstone lift ban on flags and banners for Celtic game Move was put in place in bid to stop pyrotechnics entering ground http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1637333.1387888751!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg Celtic fans throw flares on to the pitch before the Scottish Premiership match at Fir Park, Motherwell. Photograph: Jeff Holmes/PA Topics:SportSoccerMore Topics Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 12:39 First published: Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 12:39 More Sharing ServicesSt Johnstone have announced that the ban on flags and banners at their St Stephen’s Day clash with Celtic has been lifted. Celtic prematurely made the same announcement on Monday following a major misunderstanding after the ban was announced 24 hours earlier, but the Perth club have now confirmed that police have allowed a relaxation for the McDiarmid Park encounter. A statement from St Johnstone read: “Further discussion has today taken place between all parties and a request from the clubs made to Police Scotland that the ban be lifted has been accepted. “Safety remains of paramount importance to both clubs and the match will be managed with this in mind and with Police Scotland having reviewed this policy, the two clubs are now putting their faith in all supporters that they shall support their respective teams in a manner which befits what should be a great game of football on a special date in the football calendar.” The ban was initially imposed in a bid to prevent fans using flags to hide the use of pyrotechnics. Celtic admitted they had jumped the gun with their statement on Monday but they welcomed the confirmation of the decision. In a statement, the club said: “For clarity, Celtic Football Club has received confirmation that flags and banners will now be permitted at the match against St Johnstone on Boxing Day. “Last week, Celtic Football Club noted the advice given by local police regarding safety, flags and banners at the match. “We acknowledge we had not received final confirmation yesterday in terms of a change. However, we are pleased, following consultation and discussion over the past couple of days, that the initial decision has been reviewed by the police and St Johnstone FC.” Police Scotland’s press office was unable to provide confirmation immediately after the clubs announced the decision. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,418 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Hooliganism is not part of Scottish football,there are always a few idiots mind you, however the game is all about pay your money, sit down, and shut up! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebear54 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 The issue of pyro is a smoke screen. If Police Scotland really wanted to rid the country of smoke bombs and flares, they could. They could use existing legislation or put a case forward for more effective legislation so that those selling it irresponsibly are hammered. Claiming that a ban of surfers will control the problem is like something out of a comic book. Enforcement wise, it makes far more sense to control the licensing and the sale of pyro than chase every wee ned that has visions of growing up into a wee ultra. Police Scotland would better serve themselves and the country by engaging with football fans and developing a solid mutually respectful working relationship. A much better state of affairs than this rapidly deteriorating relationship which is going to end in tears and will take decades to fix. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 The issue of pyro is a smoke screen. If Police Scotland really wanted to rid the country of smoke bombs and flares, they could. They could use existing legislation or put a case forward for more effective legislation so that those selling it irresponsibly are hammered. Claiming that a ban of surfers will control the problem is like something out of a comic book. Enforcement wise, it makes far more sense to control the licensing and the sale of pyro than chase every wee ned that has visions of growing up into a wee ultra. Police Scotland would better serve themselves and the country by engaging with football fans and developing a solid mutually respectful working relationship. A much better state of affairs than this rapidly deteriorating relationship which is going to end in tears and will take decades to fix. I actually don't think pyro is being used as a smokescreen here. I think that smoke bombs and flares are indeed what the police are targeting and I also think they probably know fine well that ideally the best way to do it would be to make them illegal to sell (and buy) in the UK. The problem is though, that flares are legally sold for boating and mountaineering purposes and can be bought online by pretty much anyone, which brings us to the next problem... these custom coloured smoke bombs, even if completely outlawed in the UK, could still quite easily be shipped in from overseas. So what the Police appear to be doing is taking a far cheaper, quicker and more devious approach and starting to try to intimidate Scottish football fans into self-policing the pyro stuff out of the game ourselves simply by threatening to start taking away our rights to fly large banners and flags. They're probably just testing the water and sewing seeds at the moment, but it's possible that they'll step up this tactic. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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