Stan Collymore: Take Rangers off the TV...

[Laudbertz 0]

Jaysus, that laugh is hilarious and like nails down a blackboard all at once!

[pete 2,499]

I believe this is Mr Collymores favourite band.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXI9AzePHvE

[pete 2,499]

Well in Amy.

 

[The Real PapaBear 0]

Well in Amy.

 

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but she hasn't been beaten up by Collymore, so she probbaly is.

[BlueMazza 0]

I feel I need to talk about the whole using Collymore hitting Ulrika thing. What's so different between Collymore & Gazza's history of domestic abuse? Why are we glad to see one on air and not the other? is it because one is a 'good ranger' and the other isn't? I find it pretty saddening people will use domestic violence in this way, to further their own agendas. Gazza abused Sheryl over the course of years.

 

Afroman has been rightly arrested for punching that woman out, yet it's posted on here as what, entertainment? To make another joke against Collymore?

 

I'm so disappointed that DV appears to be taken so lightly by some. I'm sure a lot of you will be outraged by my comments, but there is rank hypocrisy going on. Violence against women shouldn't be used for point scoring against one person you don't like, when you hold another abuser up on a pedestal.

[Frankie 8,150]

No, BM you're right - we can't differentiate from abuse whether it's Collymore or Gascoigne. Both are a disgrace.

 

Obviously though Gascoigne (for all his obvious faults) doesn't attempt to preach like Stan does which is why some folk will (rightly or wrongly) tolerate his indiscretions more than they may others.

[pete 2,499]

I feel I need to talk about the whole using Collymore hitting Ulrika thing. What's so different between Collymore & Gazza's history of domestic abuse? Why are we glad to see one on air and not the other? is it because one is a 'good ranger' and the other isn't? I find it pretty saddening people will use domestic violence in this way, to further their own agendas. Gazza abused Sheryl over the course of years.

 

Afroman has been rightly arrested for punching that woman out, yet it's posted on here as what, entertainment? To make another joke against Collymore?

 

I'm so disappointed that DV appears to be taken so lightly by some. I'm sure a lot of you will be outraged by my comments, but there is rank hypocrisy going on. Violence against women shouldn't be used for point scoring against one person you don't like, when you hold another abuser up on a pedestal.

 

I can only agree with you. While I do admit I put up the Afroman film I have to admit it was done without thinking into the deeper subject of wife beating. Gascoigne should certainly not be shown as any kind of hero off the field

as he is in my opinion an idiot at least probably heading towards being mentally ill. Whatever he should not be praised as a hero off the football park. For what it is worth I think the Afroman video would have been just as popular on you tube if it was a man he hit but whether he would have dared do it to a man is another story.

[pete 2,499]

'Utter c**p': Amy Macdonald hits back at Stan Collymore as Rangers sectarian singing row escalates

 

10:06, 23 February 2015

By Record Sport Online

 

SCOTS singer and celebrity Gers fan Macdonald responded angrily after Collymore claimed he had been vindicated in his controversial linking of Rangers to right wing extremists.

 

SCOTS pop star Amy Macdonald has blasted back at Stan Collymore after the TV pundit claimed he was vindicated in his controversial linking of Rangers to right wing extremists such as the National Front.

 

The celebrity Rangers fan slammed Collymore’s comments as “utter c**p” after he tweeted in the wake of reports which claimed a Chelsea fan being hunted for pushing a black man off the Paris underground last week was a former Royal Ulster Constabulary officer and had been a Rangers fan.

 

Responding to the reports, TV and radio pundit Collymore tweeted: "As I said a couple of weeks ago, Rangers and Chelsea, aka 'The Blues Brothers', made for each other. Quelle surprise.#NF #BNP #C18."

 

He also said: "So the ex RUC officer who #CFC want info on and pushed the guy off the train is indeed a Rangers & Chelsea fan. Vindication complete.

 

"Got to be honest, from a journalistic point of view right now, I'm smug as f..."

 

But Macdonald hit back angrily yesterday. She tweeted: "What utter c**p. I support Rangers. I'm not racist or sectarian. I have no interest in Chelsea and I'm NOT an anomaly."

 

The Twitter spat quickly escalated with Collymore telling the singer: "Find a tweet where i suggested all Rangers fans are racists or bigots.

 

"I was asked specific Q about a specific link between 2 clubs supporters which yesterday i was proved right on."

 

But Macdonald hit back: "I... condemn tarring vast swathes of people with the same brush. It's not the way to solve any of these issues.

 

"Tarring everyone with the same brush, imo, is not going solve any of these problems.??"

 

Collymore sparked a storm last week when he claimed Rangers should be taken off the telly if their fans continue to sing sectarian songs .

 

He was subsequently dropped from BT Sport’s coverage of Friday night’s Raith Rovers v Rangers match.

 

 

 

The former Liverpool star then stated: “Collymore also stated: "Disgusted by the lack of support from journalists, broadcasters and pros, current and ex. The threats, slurs, racism is there for all."

 

Following Friday night’s match at Raith it emerged the SPFL will investigate Rangers for sectarian chanting during the clash in Kirkcaldy .

 

Last night the Rangers Supporters Trust - who angrily hit out at Collymore last week - backed Macdonald. They tweeted: "Great to see @Amy__Macdonald stand up to @StanCollymore 's lies today. Rangers fans are a diverse group so to tar us all is ridiculous."

[ian1964 10,413]

Keith Jackson: EGM could be a bright new future for Rangers but some fans are determined to drag the club back into the dark ages.

 

KEITH gives his view of Friday night's scenes in Kirkcaldy where the Rangers support shamed their club and of the ensuing fall-out.

 

GLASGOW’S ancient divide has never felt so deep. Or smelt so acrid.

 

On Thursday of last week, Celtic went toe to toe with a familiar old giant and the performance Ronny Deila’s players produced on one of Europe’s biggest stages was a credit to Scottish football. At times this gargantuan effort bordered on super-human and, yes, the time may even be coming for apologies where this Norwegian manager is concerned.

 

More of which later.

 

Because before there was time to dwell on that thrilling 3-3 draw with Inter Milan, another almighty storm was brewing. And, not only did this one do further damage to the already ravaged reputation of Rangers, it added another filthy layer of puss to the festering sore of relationship between football’s most dysfunctional neighbours.

 

While there is a sizeable chunk of Celtic supporters who long for the day Rangers become relevant football rivals again, there is another, sometimes it can feel like a majority, whose loathing of all things Ibrox is so deeply ingrained that they would much rather this club was no more.

 

And they were out in foaming- mouthed indignation less than 24 hours after John Guidetti had 
lashed Celtic’s third goal into the
 roof of Inter’s net all because of what was going on in a second tier domestic match next to a railway track in Kirkcaldy.

 

They had every reason too. Their old nemesis had handed them this one on a plate with another 90-minute dusting down of a songbook from another time and place. Live on BT Sport.

 

This recent return of outlawed sectarian chants has come at a time when the Rangers support in general deserves great credit for the way in which they have finally galvanised to do some good for their own club.

 

Around 15,000 of them have signed up to buy shares and this huge mobilisation has felt like some sort
of epiphany.

 

Yes, it may have taken more than three years for them to rub the sleep from their eyes and to revolt in serious numbers but better late than never. At long last the majority have recognised that their club is being kicked to death from the inside by men in brown brogues.

 

The response has been hugely impressive. They are on the verge 
of a historic victory and the brink
of securing fan ownership for a club that has been horribly abused 
and mistreated by all manner of charlatans and interlopers. Good
 for them.

 

But there is a downside to this rising and it is manifesting itself in a sense of lawlessness and anarchy. It’s almost as if, in joining the bloodlust for the current regime, a great many of them have abandoned all sense of decency and decorum. While they have every reason to rebel against a board of directors which is as unfit for purpose as any in its recent car-crash history, there is no justification whatsoever for them to return, with such foul-mouthed gusto, to the days of wading around, knee-deep in F***** blood. Or to be gleefully chanting about child abuse, which is a horrendously crass default position to adopt in this obnoxious game of point-scoring ping-pong.

 

These chants may not be classed as illegal and, yes, the monstrosity of the recent Charlie Hebdo murders has highlighted the right to be offensive but, even so, what we have here is grown men – many of them fathers for goodness sake – revelling in signing songs about child molestation. Crass? It’s enough to make the skin crawl.

 

In fact, this appalling behaviour must have mortified Dave King, Paul Murray and John Gilligan who have enough on their minds as they prepare to storm the boardroom and rid their club of those in charge.

 

These three are held up as traditional “Rangers men” but if they endorse this ugly regression then how can their plans to move the club forward be taken seriously?

 

It’s quite a headache. Strategically, the very last thing they need right now is to pick a fight with the fans who have united behind them in such numbers but, morally, they have no option but to speak out in condemnation. Yes, they may be on the brink of reclaiming a club in the name of its fans but they must make it clear that “taking Rangers back” does not equate to dragging it towards the dark ages. It must surely be the intention of King, Murray and Gilligan to rebuild the current day Rangers, not to oversee the reformation of a relic.

 

If so, they will have been wincing at the self-inflicted damage that has been done to the club’s image by the Alf Garnett Loyal in recent weeks, including a twitter war with Stan Collymore.

 

Collymore had every right to be scathing of the Rangers chants 
and songs at the recent League
 Cup semi-final. It was an offensive onslaught.

 

But, having chosen to tackle this head on, it was wrong of him not to highlight also some highly dubious songs and chants emanating from the other end of Hampden on that day. By doing so, he made his own views appear jaundiced by bias.

 

Many Celtic fans will bristle in indignation at the suggestion that they should be brought into this debate but they too are part of the problem.

 

By refusing to acknowledge that songs in support of terrorism or chants which make reference to “Orange b*******” are offensive and have no place in football, they too lose the argument. These songs DO exist. They DO offend. And they too should be stamped out.

 

None of this, however, excuses the recent ramping up of hate and hostility among the Rangers support or justifies what went on at Stark’s Park the other night when it reached a rancid crescendo.

 

But it all adds to the general level of toxicity around these two clubs at a time when both are heading in very different directions. For Rangers, all roads lead to an egm a week on Friday and if King and his men win the day then they can begin the task of cleansing their club from the inside out.

 

For Deila and Celtic, it’s all about Thursday night in Milan and if they too can secure a victory to proceed into the last 16, then the Norwegian’s reputation will not just be bomb-proof, it will be gold-plated.

 

The unconventional Deila doesn’t deal much in pragmatism and, yes, because of this carefree, romantic streak at times it has been difficult to take him too seriously. But credit where it’s due, true to his word, he has built a Celtic side that didn’t just look to survive against Inter Milan but one that went after the Italians with hammers and tongs.

 

Deila’s Celtic does indeed look equipped to score more goals in the San Siro but the manager’s high-risk approach will place keeper Craig Gordon in the firing line once more.

 

Celtic’s renaissance man will travel there with a point to prove and if he’s at his very best then he might provide this tie with yet another jaw-dropper of a plot twist.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/sport/keith-jackson-egm-could-bright-5213640

[aweebluesoandso 290]

"By refusing to acknowledge that songs in support of terrorism or chants which make reference to “Orange b*******” are offensive and have no place in football, they too lose the argument. These songs DO exist. They DO offend. And they too should be stamped out".

 

The Celtic supporters songs and banners at Hampden and Thursday night, were Offensive, Sectarian and Bigoted, why don't you just say it Keith, what's the problem?

As if we don't know.