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[buster. 5,093]

I am fairly sure that the Saturday evening TV programme, Sportscene, specified the away support as to where the disruption came from at Ibrox.

 

 

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Mcleod has just embarrassed the whole BBC there. 

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,728]

The BBC will never change. 

[buster. 5,093]

8 hours ago, 26th of foot said:

"Lizzie's in a Box".

 

On Saturday last, Ibrox settled to a planned minutes silence for the passing of our country's Monarch these last seventy years. Queen Elizabeth's death has witnessed an outpouring of emotion not seen since World War Two. The last Monarch, George vi passed in 1952; there is little to no collective memory. Ten days of mourning is NOT a huge demand for someone who provided daily service everyday for in excess of 70 years. Think about it, four hours of dispatch box administration every morning beginning at 07.30hrs; including Christmas day, Birthdays, Honeymoon, ................. etc, over 25,000 consecutive days. Truly, a life of service.

 

Whether your belief systems include Constitutional Monarchy or not, you have to respect the unflinching dedication to the roles of Head of State, Head of the Commonwealth and, Head of Established Church. An elderly woman died aged 96, a Mother, Grandmother, Great Grandmother, wife, sister, ...... etc; all running interference on unquestioning service. Surely, a minute's contemplative silence is not an unreasonable request? 

 

As the players took position on the centre circle the booing began within the several hundred Dundee United supporters. As the Referee blew the whistle to begin the silence, the away section broke into four or five choruses of, "Lizzie's in a Box". The culmination of the silence was marked by the first verse of the National Anthem. As God Save the King finished, BBC Radio Scotland commentator, Liam McLeod admitted interruption of the silence then added, "it is impossible to say which part of the ground the interruption to the minutes silence came from". Disinformation in 18 words.

 

Dundee United issued a statement after the game. It outlined the Board had passed on received information to supporters but acknowledged, "a tiny minority of supporters did not respect the minute's silence". The statement contained no condemnation and no apology. BBC Scotland printed the statement but did not readdress Liam McLeod's ridiculous lie. From the position of the Ibrox gantry, Liam McLeod said, "it is impossible to say which part of the ground the interruption to the minute's silence came from". It is just another BIG LIE to emanate from BBC Scotland reference Rangers and Rangers supporters.

 

 

 

 

The wording you quote from the Dundee United statement is wrong.

Statement quoted below.

 

Quote

 

"Dundee United are aware of the actions of a small section of the crowd who chose to not respect the minute's silence before this afternoon's match at Ibrox.

As a club, ahead of the game we reached out to advise our supporters of the pre-match arrangements with the expectation that the minute silence would be observed".

 

 I just watched back the relevant part of Sportscene Highlights package from Saturday evening and the presenter, Steven Thompson read from a prepared sheet of paper and clearly said 'disruption in the away section at Ibrox'.

 

So albeit later and not admitting that Liam McLeod was f**king at it, they did address where the disruption came from. Something the Dundee United statement, didn't actually do.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by buster.

[Scott7 5,913]

McLeod and Dundee United’s PR, graduates summa cum laude from the School of Weasel Words.

 

McLeod told a lie.  DU didn’t tell the truth.

[26th of foot 6,054]

15 hours ago, buster. said:

The wording you quote from the Dundee United statement is wrong.

Statement quoted below.

 

 I just watched back the relevant part of Sportscene Highlights package from Saturday evening and the presenter, Steven Thompson read from a prepared sheet of paper and clearly said 'disruption in the away section at Ibrox'.

 

So albeit later and not admitting that Liam McLeod was f**king at it, they did address where the disruption came from. Something the Dundee United statement, didn't actually do.

 

 

Buster,

 

I lifted the quote from Dundee United's statement from BBC Scotland's 'Scottish Football' website. As of last evening, BBC Scotland have taken down all reference to the Rangers - Dundee United game and United's statement. I suspect like before, Editorial control is not what it should be and embellishment ensued? 

 

Further, early last evening the same website reported Police Scotland were investigating claims from United fans that their section was hit by thrown glass bottles from the home support in the wake of the minute's silence. This report first appeared in the National. Again, there was a difference as a result of lack of Editorial control. BBC Scottish football reported, "the away section was showered by glass bottles". Last night, the entire report was taken down.

 

I did not see any bottles or objects being thrown and, I sit in the front row of the upper tier of the Sandy Jardine(thus good view). However, I am sure Liam McLeod will itemise the number of bottles, where each emanated from and, the colour and contents of each bottle?

[Gonzo79 15,152]

Dundee United fans brought in the bottles and smashed them themselves.  

 

Bunch of weirdos.  

 

It's amazing that no away fans are ever seriously injured, given the constant claims of things being thrown at them.  This latest fabrication joins a long list of similar nonsense.  

[buster. 5,093]

25 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

Buster,

 

I lifted the quote from Dundee United's statement from BBC Scotland's 'Scottish Football' website. As of last evening, BBC Scotland have taken down all reference to the Rangers - Dundee United game and United's statement. I suspect like before, Editorial control is not what it should be and embellishment ensued? 

 

Further, early last evening the same website reported Police Scotland were investigating claims from United fans that their section was hit by thrown glass bottles from the home support in the wake of the minute's silence. This report first appeared in the National. Again, there was a difference as a result of lack of Editorial control. BBC Scottish football reported, "the away section was showered by glass bottles". Last night, the entire report was taken down.

 

I did not see any bottles or objects being thrown and, I sit in the front row of the upper tier of the Sandy Jardine(thus good view). However, I am sure Liam McLeod will itemise the number of bottles, where each emanated from and, the colour and contents of each bottle?

Thanks 26th !

 

I got the statement from the club website. Did Dundee United amend it or have BBC Scotland modified it?

 

There aren't noted signs of amendment.  Can hardly believe that BBC Scotland thought they could get away with editing the statement but who knows these days.

 

When the reference 'cnut' was used for a pic of Kevin Thomson in a Rangers top, on the BBC website, at least it was hidden from plain sight.

Edited September 20, 2022 by buster.

[buster. 5,093]

20 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

Buster,

 

I lifted the quote from Dundee United's statement from BBC Scotland's 'Scottish Football' website. As of last evening, BBC Scotland have taken down all reference to the Rangers - Dundee United game and United's statement. I suspect like before, Editorial control is not what it should be and embellishment ensued? 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62942308

 

I can see the above on the game, from the Sunday.

[26th of foot 6,054]

Police Scotland?

 

It is a fortnight since BBC Scotland reported on the Rangers - Dundee United fixture at Ibrox, stating the minute's silence for the death of the Monarch had ended with, "the away section was showered with glass bottles". PQ's modus operandi kicked in and the report was taken down after an hour or so, to be replaced by the Dundee United statement. The piece ended with, "Police Scotland are investigating the throwing of bottles into the away section". Thankfully, BBC Scotland and Police Scotland ignored the YouTube video-claim that, "two Dundee United fans stabbed to death after, 'Lizzie's in a box' song. It remains on YouTube with over 110,000 having viewed the lie.

 

Misinformation and disinformation is the name of the game and PQ know credence is lent when they can conclude the story with, 'Police Scotland are investigating'. The amount of Rangers-Rangers supporters stories that PQ have ended with that phrase are numerous. The thing is we NEVER find out how the investigation concluded. Well, there is one exception; you remember 55 had just been won and, a video emanated from ........... surely not PQ ............. purporting to show several Rangers players inside the Blue Room, holding the League trophy whilst singing sectarian anti-catholic songs. All the usual suspects including James Dornan MSP, Humza Yousaf MSP, Jum Spence, Angela Haggerty, ...................... etc posted the video on YouTube, demanding Police action. Humza also demanded Rangers discipline the players involved ie Joe Aribo, Ryan Kent, Calvin Bassey and, Connor Goldson.

 

It took Police Scotland a week to find no evidence of sectarian singing, there was a suggestion the video had been deliberately doctored to suggest anti-catholic chanting. It reminded me of BBC Scotland News Producer, Dermot O'Hara(brother of SNP MP Brendan O'Hara) showing a 30 second shot of Rangers supporters at Hampden signing whilst having a bouncing ball at the bottom of the screen, highlighting the proposed lyrics of the famine song. I hope Dermot and Brendan received their royalties from the broadcast?

 

We await Police Scotland's findings as regards the shower of bottles aimed at the Arabs; in the meantime let's look at other BBC Scotland reports:

 

1. Jum Spence whose son serves within Police Scotland. During his second letting go by BBC Scotland, Jum was out walking with his wife in an Angus village and a Rangers supporter began to bellow at him from across the road. Jum reported the incident and we await the findings.

 

2. Rangers had just won at Pittodrie, a supporters bus heading south from the city pulled into Stonehaven for sustenance. However, those vile Rangers supporters forgot their hunger when presented with children building sand castles on the beach. It was reported several sand structures had been demolished and Police Scotland had been informed.

 

3. PQ reported Neil Lennon had been the recipient of a "viable" device. No, Neil had NOT even been the recipient of the envelope containing a battery, wiring and, a small chemical phial. Post Office staff dealt with the non-viable device(no detonator)at the GPO - they put it into a bucket of water. Now, we know two men were correctly arrested, charged and, sentenced to custodial terms but, it was the undergraduate dressed as Postman Pat carrying a wrapped box with 'bomb' printed on it at the Uni Halloween party that outraged PQ.  They reported it and Police Scotland ensured he was fined several hundred pounds.

 

The above incidences all received the full PQ attention, news reporting, discussions upon and, designated phone-ins on each matter. Parity is important and we await the same treatment for the Green Brigade unfurled the banner proclaiming, "if you hate the Royal Family clap your hands". We know because they have told us. Michael Stewart agrees with the Green Brigades political aspirations. Tom English has often eulogised the witty content of their banners. Chris McLaughlin lionises the atmosphere the Green Brigade bring to the ground. Every game is enhanced by a couple of effigies being hanged by the neck above a couple of dozen flags proclaiming, "KAH"(Kill All H-u-ns). 

 

BBC Scotland have reported some of the above incidents, they have hosted fewer discussions. I cannot think of them ever demanding Police Scotland action? The "Hate" banner at Paisley is an open goal. Remember Humza Yousaf reminding us that Scotland has legislation on hate crimes during the 55 title celebrations? It was the basis for demanding both Police action and Rangers disciplining the supposed players involved. Did Police Scotland okay a banner with the word, "Hate"? A phone-in which will not happen would reveal a lot about the nature of the relationship between PQ and Police Scotland.

 

Can you imagine, who would host such an imaginary phone-in?