Gaffer 1,665 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, StuGers said: Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I find it absolutely staggering that there has been this reaction to it, and a lot coming from Rangers fans. Why is there such a massive uproar about it? The Groin Brigade do it all the time. There was a pub of Rangers fans with women and children physically attacked and it’s hardly been mentioned by the newspapers or MPs. There were Rangers fans attacked after the match whilst they were walking home. Yet the outcry is about fans with a logo of someone being kicked. So what is worse? A logo depicting violence or actual violence on women and children? By the mass response, it seems that the answer is the logo, but that is just because it depicts a Celtic fan as the victim. Again, think the march was stupid, but the hypocrisy of the outcry as if this is the first time in history that this has happened is ridiculous when you compare it to the actual violence that the Rangers fans have been subject to. It really does show you the awful political landscape that we reside in where actual violence against us is not newsworthy. You can certainly criticise the media for its focus on certain events over others, but the reaction from Rangers fans (including me) to this is perfectly sensible. Firstly, what other groups from other teams is less of a concern to me because they're not associated with my club. I don't like my club being negatively affected at all, and when it's done by our own fans it's so much more disappointing. Just because others do it worse than use doesn't mean it's ok. That's a ridiculous argument. Not a single Rangers fan thinks that the flyer is worse than someone being attacked. The difference is that we (as Rangers fans) could have prevented the former. It was a stupid own goal we scored and totally unnecessary. If that March was simply about singing songs in favour of the team, why that logo, or covering if their faces? It was sinister and stupid. However, I've already said the attacks on our players, staff and supporters is worse. There's no doubt about that, but it still won't stop me voicing my opinion about our own behaviour. It'll be a sad day when I start measuring our behaviour in relative terms to 'theirs'. I think we're much better than that, don't you? Edited March 12, 2018 by Gaffer 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 1,677 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaffer said: You can certainly criticise the media for its focus on certain events over others, but the reaction from Rangers fans (including me) to this is perfectly sensible. Firstly, what other groups from other teams is less of a concern to me because they're not associated with my club. I don't like my club being negatively affected at all, and when it's done by our own fans it's so much more disappointing. Just because others do it worse than use doesn't mean it's ok. That's a ridiculous argument. Not a single Rangers fan thinks that the flyer is worse than someone being attacked. The difference is that we (as Rangers fans) could have prevented the former. It was a stupid own goal we scored and totally unnecessary. If that March was simply about singing songs in favour of the team, why that logo, or covering if their faces? It was sinister and stupid. However, I've already said the attacks on our players, staff and supporters is worse. There's no doubt about that, but it still won't stop me voicing my opinion about our own behaviour. It'll be a sad day when I start measuring our behaviour in relative terms to 'theirs'. I think we're much better than that, don't you? And there lies the problem, we can't turn a blind eye to this sheer stupidity just because someone else representing some other group is equivalent or worse. That's ludicrous. Imagine a lawyer walking into a court room representing a serial killer and he says this. Yes M'lud there is no denying he's been a bit of a naughty boy but hey boys will be boys. What about Jeffrey Dahmer? What about Ted Bundy? What about Fred West? I rest my case. Stupid yes but no more stupid than the attempts to defend these total nitwits here. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,769 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Stupid yes but no more stupid than the attempts to defend these total nitwits here. Any updates on the 'disastrous' fallout from yesterday's 'toxic' and 'sinister' parade? Has the club been shut down? What was the death toll? Have UEFA banned us from Europe? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said: Any updates on the 'disastrous' fallout from yesterday's 'toxic' and 'sinister' parade? Has the club been shut down? What was the death toll? Have UEFA banned us from Europe? nah....just that arseholes have given the club bad publicity 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) If they had broken the law or crossed Social boundaries they would have been arrested. They didn’t and they weren’t. People can walk or march covering their face if the wish, a certain ethnic group force their woman to do it. I don’t profess to enjoy that sort of thing but they identify with it. I will defend their right to behave in any way they wish with the boundaries of legality. No harm was done so they have nothing to answer. If that changes then my reaction changes. Personally I find it distasteful but that’s just an opinion. Edited March 12, 2018 by cooponthewing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,769 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Maybe they should change their name from Union Bears to Niqab Loyal. Edited March 12, 2018 by Gonzo79 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinstein 294 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 away yi go....bunch of tossers dressing up like IRA tims.....fuckin brain dead 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,829 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 The state of this. https://mobile.twitter.com/thecasualultra/status/973265112583766016/video/1 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 1,677 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: Any updates on the 'disastrous' fallout from yesterday's 'toxic' and 'sinister' parade? Has the club been shut down? What was the death toll? Have UEFA banned us from Europe? Yes, it's painting the club in a bad light which while you don't care about that most others do. In addition given this is a relatively high profile forum both press and curious public will look here for opinion on these clowns. That opinion has to be and is predominately negative. But you go ahead with your support of para military style spectacles. It gives others the opportunity to mark them and you out as not representative of the club or the vast majority of it's support. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,769 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Most folk in the real world couldn't give a toss about a daft Ultra march. At work today, only the football and the result was discussed. The press paint us in a bad light most days anyway. Mountains and molehills spring to mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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