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2 minutes ago, craig said:

We are going to have to :thup:

 

My point is that spending 3 mill on Dessers could be the best money we have spent in years if he gives us 40 goals and leads us to the title.  But you dont want to sign him, predominantly, because a) his age and b) there is a transfer fee

... and c) I believe he's predominantly just a goalscorer; he doesn't seem to do much else. 

 

I understand where you are coming from, but I wouldn't bother with Dessers, personally. 

 

Hopefully he does score 40 goals for us. 

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Why is there still so much contention surrounding the DoF/Manager relationship. It's not as if this is a new idea. It seems to be a relationship that's so prone to discord that it surely has to be a structural issue? Where is it so often going wrong.

 

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11 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

... and c) I believe he's predominantly just a goalscorer; he doesn't seem to do much else. 

 

I understand where you are coming from, but I wouldn't bother with Dessers, personally. 

 

Hopefully he does score 40 goals for us. 

Whilst it seems that I am defending our pursuit of Dessers, I actually am not - more that I am defending the process or balance between experience and spending money.

 

ALL of the strikers we have been linked with underwhelm me - so I am definitely hoping I am VERY wrong !

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12 hours ago, Bill said:

Why is there still so much contention surrounding the DoF/Manager relationship. It's not as if this is a new idea. It seems to be a relationship that's so prone to discord that it surely has to be a structural issue? Where is it so often going wrong.

 

I imagine it's partly due to the precarious and public nature of a manager's job. In England the average tenure for a manager is now 477 days, I can't imagine it's very different in Scotland. If you know at the outset that you've pretty much only got 18 months in the job then I imagine the people who have the greatest affect on your role are the ones you're most likely to come into conflict with. Players cost manager's their jobs, it's probably easy to blame the person who chose those players, rather than yourself. Add in the public nature of a manager's job, constant scrutiny from the media and clueless fans waiting for the kettle to boil before starting work writing about them as if they have the first idea what they are talking about. Few jobs are so public and watched by people who think they know better. It's a wonder managers aren't in conflict with everyone all the time. 

 

in American sport the average MLB baseball coach tenure is 3 seasons, and in American football it's 4.3 seasons, in the NBA it's 3.7 years. It's not always easy to compare sports but structurally the American system seems to be what's coming into European football, so maybe we'll see a time where managers are given longer. 

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40 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

I imagine it's partly due to the precarious and public nature of a manager's job. In England the average tenure for a manager is now 477 days, I can't imagine it's very different in Scotland. If you know at the outset that you've pretty much only got 18 months in the job then I imagine the people who have the greatest affect on your role are the ones you're most likely to come into conflict with. Players cost manager's their jobs, it's probably easy to blame the person who chose those players, rather than yourself. Add in the public nature of a manager's job, constant scrutiny from the media and clueless fans waiting for the kettle to boil before starting work writing about them as if they have the first idea what they are talking about. Few jobs are so public and watched by people who think they know better. It's a wonder managers aren't in conflict with everyone all the time. 

 

in American sport the average MLB baseball coach tenure is 3 seasons, and in American football it's 4.3 seasons, in the NBA it's 3.7 years. It's not always easy to compare sports but structurally the American system seems to be what's coming into European football, so maybe we'll see a time where managers are given longer. 

I think there needs to be a change in the remit of 'managers'.

 

Many see themselves as old-school managers - when they had absolute power - when it's not really like that now. 

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1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

I imagine it's partly due to the precarious and public nature of a manager's job. In England the average tenure for a manager is now 477 days, I can't imagine it's very different in Scotland. If you know at the outset that you've pretty much only got 18 months in the job then I imagine the people who have the greatest affect on your role are the ones you're most likely to come into conflict with. Players cost manager's their jobs, it's probably easy to blame the person who chose those players, rather than yourself. Add in the public nature of a manager's job, constant scrutiny from the media and clueless fans waiting for the kettle to boil before starting work writing about them as if they have the first idea what they are talking about. Few jobs are so public and watched by people who think they know better. It's a wonder managers aren't in conflict with everyone all the time. 

 

in American sport the average MLB baseball coach tenure is 3 seasons, and in American football it's 4.3 seasons, in the NBA it's 3.7 years. It's not always easy to compare sports but structurally the American system seems to be what's coming into European football, so maybe we'll see a time where managers are given longer. 

I'm not a US sports fan, so forgive my ignorance, but they don't really do relegation, do they,?.

 

I went to baseball twice, only went the second time because I thought it couldn't be as dull as it was the first time....

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Translates to 'Rangers have put a concrete offer on the table for Danilo' roughly.

 

Mad the reaction to this that I've seen compared to Lammers and Dessers who, to be fair, have a better record than him in the Netherlands.

 

Would still be happy with the signing right enough.

 

Unsure of credibility.

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14 hours ago, craig said:

Whilst it seems that I am defending our pursuit of Dessers, I actually am not - more that I am defending the process or balance between experience and spending money.

 

ALL of the strikers we have been linked with underwhelm me - so I am definitely hoping I am VERY wrong !

This is a sentiment I agree with. I find myself hoping that Roofe is and can rmain fit as he is a much better player than any we have been linked too. 

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