The Summer 2023 Rangers Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

[compo 6,222]

13 minutes ago, CammyF said:

So how did he inspire the team to the SPL title, the Scottish Cup, 2 decent runs and 1 amazing run in Europe 

 

Is he to blame for all the failures but not responsible for any success?

yep as captain he should be urging them on in their faces when mistakes are made driving them on he's hopeless absolutely hopeless unfit to be a Rangers captain not a leader and never will be 

[CammyF 6,895]

4 minutes ago, compo said:

yep as captain he should be urging them on in their faces when mistakes are made driving them on he's hopeless absolutely hopeless unfit to be a Rangers captain not a leader and never will be 

Utter nonsense. If any Rangers player needs to be "inspired", they need moved on.

 

Did the likes of McCoist, Ian Ferguson, Stuart McCall, John Brown, Ian Durrant, Davie Cooper et al require Butcher and / or Gough in their "faces"?

 

[ranger_syntax 3,795]

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Utter nonsense. If any Rangers player needs to be "inspired", they need moved on.

When Van Bronckhorst arrived he said something similar.  He indicated that players should be able to find their own motivation here.  The problem is that it just isn't true and we know how it worked out for him.  It's great if a player is self motivated but we won't always get such players.  If you are able to get inside the heads of other players then you will get more out of them.

 

Think about players like Morelos and Kent under Gerrard and then compare them since.  I think that Gerrard was willing to find ways to 'inspire' players.  I would like it to have continued.  Could a captain help with that? Maybe but I think it is mostly a matter for the management team.

 

 

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Did the likes of McCoist, Ian Ferguson, Stuart McCall, John Brown, Ian Durrant, Davie Cooper et al require Butcher and / or Gough in their "faces"?

Much easier competition for all of these fellows.  Bringing them up as a comparison should probably trigger a ban.

[CammyF 6,895]

12 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

When Van Bronckhorst arrived he said something similar.  He indicated that players should be able to find their own motivation here.  The problem is that it just isn't true and we know how it worked out for him.  It's great if a player is self motivated but we won't always get such players.  If you are able to get inside the heads of other players then you will get more out of them.

 

Think about players like Morelos and Kent under Gerrard and then compare them since.  I think that Gerrard was willing to find ways to 'inspire' players.  I would like it to have continued.  Could a captain help with that? Maybe but I think it is mostly a matter for the management team.

 

 

Much easier competition for all of these fellows.  Bringing them up as a comparison should probably trigger a ban.

Why should it trigger a ban? And how was the competition easier? 

 

Those players mentioned "threw" away 10-in-a-row, had battles against Aberdeen and Celtic for titles. One Aberdeen team took us to last game of the season and one Celtic team lost 1 league game all season and we still found a way to triumph. 

 

Those players went to Elland Road and defeated Leeds (1st team to win there that season) with "no" away fans.

 

Those players played in and won (and lost) epic cup semi-finals and finals winning some with 10 men.

 

They inspired themselves - they didn't need a captain "in their faces". 

[Sutton_blows_goats 4,334]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

So are we suggesting that Alfie ignored the medical.advice and played whilst injured and his manager and medical staff were OK with this? 

No I’m suggesting he did because he was so desperate to make an impact for Colombia. Ironically that’s the trigger for a stream of events that will likely see him never get near the squad again.

 

Mate, our medical staff are utterly clueless. So not sure why you’re suggesting that as a case for the defence 😂

Edited May 8, 2023 by Sutton_blows_goats

[Sutton_blows_goats 4,334]

29 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

Much easier competition for all of these fellows. 

Not just that, but for many of them Rangers was the pinnacle. They

didnt want to go anywhere else. Different these days many of the players we bring in see this as a short term deal to achieve another objective. Keeping these guys too long is just stupid.

 

[CammyF 6,895]

8 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

No I’m suggesting he did because he was so desperate to make an impact for Colombia. Ironically that’s the trigger for a stream of events that will likely see him never get near the squad again.

 

Mate, our medical staff are utterly clueless. So not sure why you’re suggesting that as a case for the defence 😂

But Alfie didn't pick the team. Everyone knew Alfie was injured yet Gio kept selecting him. 

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

So how did he inspire the team to the SPL title, the Scottish Cup, 2 decent runs and 1 amazing run in Europe 

 

Is he to blame for all the failures but not responsible for any success?

That was then, this is now. Sentimentality makes you feel good but is not our friend.

[Bill 13,717]

54 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Utter nonsense. If any Rangers player needs to be "inspired", they need moved on.

 

Did the likes of McCoist, Ian Ferguson, Stuart McCall, John Brown, Ian Durrant, Davie Cooper et al require Butcher and / or Gough in their "faces"?

 

None of those still play for Rangers

[Gonzo79 13,764]

2 minutes ago, Bill said:

Sentimentality makes you feel good but is not our friend.

Rangers fans seem to be particularly cursed by it (see the never-ending desire to re-sign former players).