Should Beale be sacked?

[Gonzo79 13,660]

6 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Will you give the new manager two to three years to win us the league back (as it may take that long)?

All depends on circumstances.  

 

I'd hope a decent manager would improve the performances and results in the short term and put in a good challenge for the league next season.  That's not unreasonable. 

[CammyF 6,798]

4 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

All depends on circumstances.  

 

I'd hope a decent manager would improve the performances and results in the short term and put in a good challenge for the league next season.  That's not unreasonable. 

It's not, but if it doesn't happen, then what? Sack them? 

 

There has to come a time when we give a manager time. It's not Beale, so the pressure is on the board to make the correct choice when replacing him. 

 

Firstly we need to employ some good football people to run the football part of the business - this will take time to implement.

 

Next, those football people need to employ a DoF and a coach / manager we can get behind. Again, this will take time. 

 

Doing it in any other order r any other way, doesn't make sense to me. However, if there is a better way, I'm open to being convinced. 

 

Whilst this is happening Beale will either be sacked or kept in place. If he's sacked then it's probably an interim manager we should be looking for. 

 

 

[Devil's advocaat 1,276]

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

 

There has to come a time when we give a manager time. It's not Beale, so the pressure is on the board to make the correct choice when replacing him. 

Spot on.

 

The number of managers we've had in the last 10-15 years is a sore point for me. To give a manager time, everything else needs to be in place, DOF, youth development, everything that the well run clubs get right.

 

 

[compo 6,147]

If he goes who would you like to see take over 

[Gonzo79 13,660]

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Whilst this is happening Beale will either be sacked or kept in place. If he's sacked then it's probably an interim manager we should be looking

There are plenty of decent managers out of work.  

We should be looking to replace Beale immediately and also looking to bring in a DoF as soon as possible.

[CammyF 6,798]

1 minute ago, Devil's advocaat said:

Spot on.

 

The number of managers we've had in the last 10-15 years is a sore point for me. To give a manager time, everything else needs to be in place, DOF, youth development, everything that the well run clubs get right.

 

 

100% and we are nowhere close to these basic things being in place. 

[CammyF 6,798]

2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

There are plenty of decent managers out of work.  

We should be looking to replace Beale immediately and also looking to bring in a DoF as soon as possible.

Most are out of work for a reason, the same reason MB should be out of work.

 

Can't agree, a DoF needs to be in place before the new full time manager. 

[RANGERRAB 3,260]

9 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Most are out of work for a reason, the same reason MB should be out of work.

 

Can't agree, a DoF needs to be in place before the new full time manager. 

We must establish what the DoF duties & responsibilities are first before appointing one (if we must have one)

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[Rousseau 9,382]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

No I'm not - your the one making things up. 

 

Beale isn't going to win us the league and needs sacked.

 

However, his replacement might win us the league given time (it isn't going to happen overnight, we are so far behind them). 

 

Will you give the new manager two to three years to win us the league back (as it may take that long)?

You're not giving Beale years (he's had 10 months) - why?

 

'It may take [two to three years] to win us the league back'? What if it doesn't? 

[CammyF 6,798]

9 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

You're not giving Beale years (he's had 10 months) - why?

 

'It may take [two to three years] to win us the league back'? What if it doesn't? 

Because its obvious he's not the right man. Under Gerrard, he quickly got the better of Celtic and we were improving . 

 

However if the fans got their way, he'd have been sacked before winning the title. 

 

Do you honestly believe simply removing Beale and replacing him with the next "project" manager the board have in mind will see us win the title in less than 2-3 years? 

 

If you do, what makes you think this.