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I would like to watch us smash the Greeks while eating a plate of delicious Gyros and sipping on a cold bottle of Mythos, but if we loose Raskin, Hamza & Dessers and don't replace them with better, and a some decent defenders I may end up hiding behing the couch.

He's got a contract till 2027, so no need for anything right now.

I think it's a moot point, anyway. I don't think European 'success' needs to entail an extended run deep into the competition. Merely reaching the group stage of the EL would be deemed 'successful', which shouldn't require us to shift focus from the league. @CammyF

Semantics - we need domestic success 1st then Europe will follow on.

That would be the plan of a self harming idiot.

You said 'never.'

Once in 14 years kinda proves my statement.

City one ahead

Let’s take one step at a time can we beat the Greeks

2020/2021 disproves your statement. League champions and last 16 of Europa league.

I know - however I'd take a 1 year hit to get us better placed for both domestic and European success. Probably in the minority, but think it's the best way forward.

Nope - we've never been capable of both. Very few teams have.

Certainly the worst for travelling, been twice before and thought it a bit of a shithole but que sera sera.

Generally agree but see how our squad is on 1st September. Our squad looks weak just now, granted.

The money we get from our domestic league isn’t sufficient to sustain the current business. If we failed to get into any of the competitions group stages we’d be seriously in the brown stuff. CL isn’t guaranteed any longer even if we win the league and as things currently stand we have absolutely no chance whatsoever of winning the league

It was 22,000, there has been a game with a 3000 crowd yesterday.

We are surely capable of both? Keeping our coefficient high is another factor.

Short-term you are correct however win the league this season and access to CL riches becomes so much easier. No European money this season but CL money next season, ballances itself out.

Nope, winning the league is more important as it makes access to CL riches easier. Which was one of the reasons we were so attractive to the 49ers.

Europa I reckon £18 million prize money alone if we do reasonably well. Ticket sales, don't have the figures, say around £8 million after vat tax. Don't know the cost of hosting a match. Champions League I think Celtic made about £38m prize money alone.

Regardless of what fans want, I'd bet my life the 49ers didn't invest for us to focus on domestic matters.

How much does it make for us after we remove win bonuses, match hosting costs etc

There is a report in the telegraph saying the crowd at the Chelsea game was around 600 other reports say it was 3000 either way a poor turnout that must worry the FIFA lads with the world cup finals less than a year away .

Plus, I'd imagine it'd be much harder to entice potential signings without the prospect of European football. Amyone decent fancy Fir Park in January?

Our domestic league doesn’t bring in sufficient revenue. We need the European money