SteveC

We won't though, will we?

'Twas my point. Not only them. So now we have that legal statement - should we not pursue it?

Worth joining Twitter, even if you hate it, for @kerryfail today EDIT: Someone on FF typed them out: From @Kerryfail....... Not surprised in the slightest, 7 or 8 people just walked out of my work at the news. We will not lie down. Time to assemble Bhoys. am goin ti the police , not standing for it any longer This decision stinks of racism. Yeah so the timing of the statement before our game vs Rosenberg, coincidence? I think not. My tickets in the bin regardless. I believe that the Masons have integrated in to every single decision making authority in Scotland. Even our own boardroom. Sickening. That's it, I'm done with Scotland, done with football, done with Celtic and more importantly done with all you clowns. Just **** off, bye. I feel so let down by everyone. Can't even look at my wife the same after today. a actually cant take this anymor, its making me ill I honestly feel like sooing regan and doncastser for ernings loss

And that these sections only exist in fantasy land: “A3.1 In all matters and transactions relating to the League and Company each Club shall behave towards each other Club and the Company with the utmost good faith. A3.2 No Club, either by itself or its Club Officials, shall by any means whatsoever unfairly criticise, disparage, belittle or discredit any other Club, the Company or the League or in either case any such other Cub or the Company’s directors, officers, employees or agents (which shall, for the avoidance of doubt, exclude supporters).”

And they might get a whole lot better late tonight! Feel free to share highlights.............

Another great passage!

Not quite - doesn't it say there's to be an independent review, plus there's the "hypotheses" paragraph? The SPFL Board further announced that it supports the calls that have been made for an independent review concerning the way in which Scottish football’s authorities have dealt with non-payment of tax by clubs, have applied their rules and regulations, and the sufficiency of changes made to their rules and regulations in this area over the last few years. Pointless though that seems (even the bit he says - in seeming desperation - could still be pursued, he then goes on to debunk). However, I did note this, also: For the avoidance of doubt, my answer proceeds on the hypothesis expressed in the question: the new proceedings rely on the same rules and regulations. My answer should not be understood to exclude a second disciplinary complaint in all circumstances. To take the examples of double jeopardy and res judicata, the objection is to successive disputes on essentially the same matter. A second case can proceed if there is a sufficient difference between the issues or matters concerned. What amounts to a ‘sufficient’ difference is a fact sensitive question. Is this "unlawfully" bit correct? the Court of Session finding that OldCo acted unlawfully in failing to deduct and pay over to HMRC, PAYE income tax, from payments made by it to EBTs for many of its registered players. Love the stuff killing off the old club/new club shite in passing, as it were. There is scope for argument about question 4.1 but having given the matter considerable thought I prefer the view that SPFL Rules E20-29 apply to the combination of the club and its current owners. The ruling in §46 of the preliminary decision of the LNS Commission (Document 12) supports the proposition that there is a distinction between a ‘club’ and its owners and operators from time to time. That will reflect the fact that fans, and the sports minded general public, identify with the club and not necessarily with the owners. That having been said, the LNS Commission was not considering the proper interpretation of Rules E20-29. A ‘club’ is defined as “a Football club ... which is, for the time being, eligible to participate in the League and, except where the context otherwise requires, includes the owner and operator of such club”. The key here is that Rangers FC is not a legal entity. The legal entity liable to tax was Oldco. That being so, the context requires us to read the ‘club’ as including the owner and operators for the time being (i.e. it current owners).

No, they don't - incapable of said activity

It'll be mentioned and cast up to us forever. If we keep the titles, club programmes will be printed with fake record totals in them - in the same manner they kept printing "new club", "first visit" etc. It'll never end.

"The Eyes of Scottish Football is watching " = Two errors in a mere seven words, is it time to blame the schools again?

Only if you always want to be wrong! Lets hope that this one is the exception that proves the rule. If it is it is because they are frightened by what we'd do in reply - legal cases for years and years I suspect re other club's behaviour and re what they illegally (at the time) did to us.

The never-ending optimism on Rangers forums for bad things not happening to us and bad things about to happen to Celtic is a psychological miracle given the last decade.

Earley - who shouldn't even have been involved &co claiming that they are the victims of fraud. Beyond belief.... http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15428043.Rangers___39_oldcos__39__stalk_the_club/ IN another astonishing turn in the Rangers financial saga both the old company which owned the club and the new one in control are likely to face multi-million pound claims on their assets. A London firm which buys litigation claims to pursue them through the courts has resurrected the company through which Craig Whyte bought Rangers, and also saved from being struck-off the one which Charles Green used to acquire the club after Whyte’s short and disastrous ownership. Both companies, Wavetower and Sevco 5088, believe they have legitimate claims on both liquidated funds and against the present club. Henderson & Jones describe themselves as expert litigators and insolvency professionals who purchase legal claims and endeavour to get money back to creditors by pursuing their legal claims. The two principals are Philip Henderson and Gwilym Jones. On June 20 Henderson & Jones were appointed directors of Wavetower (now renamed The Rangers FC Group). Eight days earlier they had joined the board of Sevco 5088. Wavetower had been struck off by the Registrar of Companies and Sevco was about to be. Less than a fortnight later they had completed the processes to secure both the companies on the register again. They also joined the board of the associated company which was still trading, Law Financial, which Whyte founded. It holds a security over Sevco. Law, Sevco and Wavetower are ultimately owned by the Worthington Group which is now in liquidation. Philip Henderson told the Sunday Herald that they were working with Worthington liquidators, Begbies Traynor, to "deal with and evaluate any claims the Worthington subsidiaries might have, or might be made against them. As part of that role we became a director of each of the Worthington subsidiaries". He added that the company wanted to work with Rangers "oldco" liquidators, the accountancy firm BDO, "to help them get to a position where they can make a distribution to the unsecured creditors". Whyte bought Rangers for £1 in May 2011 from Sir David Murray. The vehicle he used was Wavetower. A little over a year later, and after Whyte ran out of cash, the Rangers collapse left thousands of unsecured creditors out of pocket, including 6,000 fans who bought £7.7m worth of debenture seats at Ibrox. Wavetower’s claim is that it is a preferential creditor and should be head of the queue for cash, in front of the tax authorities, in the liquidation. Wavetower, Whyte's then company, inherited a security over assets including Ibrox and Murray Park from Lloyds Banking Group after paying off Rangers £18m debt using future season ticket sales. The security was originally set up in 1999 because of Rangers ballooning debt. BDO have resisted the claim and in court documents argued that it was based on a fraudulent scheme. However Whyte's acquittal on all charges would appear to bolster Wavetower's entitlement claim. Last year a judgment by Lord Doherty put off any decision on the rights and wrongs of the claim until the conclusion of Whyte's fraud trial. Unless agreement can be reached this is likely to be tested in yet another Rangers court case. BDO holds substantial liquidation funds, believed to be in excess of £30m, including £24m from the lawyers Collyer Bristow who acted for Whyte. BDO will now also pursue more than 80 former players and staff, like Murray and former club captain Barry Ferguson, who benefited from an elaborate tax avoidance scheme – Employee Benefit Trusts, which the Supreme Court ruled were disguised salary payments. The recipients will be forced to pay back millions of pounds to the HMRC through BDO or face bankruptcy. It is believed that the Revenue has recovered more than £1bn from other of those schemes. Following Whyte's calamitous ownership, in June 2012 Charles Green completed the purchase of Rangers' assets for £5.5m through Sevco 5088. The new Sevco claim will centre on the ownership of Rangers and the transfer of assets, such as the Ibrox ground and the Auchenhowie training complex, by Green to another of his companies, Sevco Scotland, and the substantial upward revaluation of these assets. Green was later ousted and subsequently replaced by South African businessman Dave King. The company is now called Rangers International Football Club PLC. In filings at Companies House last month by Sevco 5088, the company claims it has investments of £15,700,000, with just £1 in the bank. In a note to the accounts, the directors state: “The company believes it has been the victim of fraud, and as such, the directors are not satisfied that they have all the accounting records of the company and these financial statements are therefore prepared on the basis of the accounting information that the directors do have.” One of the signatories is director Aidan Earley. Earley is a discharged bankrupt. In 2014 he was banned for five years from holding a directorship but in an rare move was allowed to remain as a director of Sevco. It is believed that this was connected to his battle over the ownership of Rangers. The Sunday Herald contacted the liquidator BDO for comment about the Wavetower claim, without response. Rangers comment to come….

Isn't that against the rules?

What a peach of a goal

I think we've played well but I can't remember too many chances. Half chances, yes, but their keeper's had nothing to do, really.

I thought it was coming just pre-HT

This particular one is free on various youtube channels - but that'll not please you to hear! I gave up on RTV and went for a dodgy stream.. I'm sorry to do that but i tried from 2pm to 3pm and was getting nowhere.

Other streams are working, I believe.......It's as though the club don't want our money.

Well. I'm not going to see it. Even if they fix RTV now it'll just crash again when everyone tries to pay. Club is just throwing money away with this. A particular riddy this week, as they've been advertising it all day.

Same here And to answer your other question - apparently 4-4-2 (see above, re Derek from FF) It's not looking good. last twitter update near three quarters of an hour ago now: "We're aware of some problems just now & have a team working on getting us back up again. We will communicate further when we have an update." PS After nearly an hour someone complained and got: "Hi Dave, thanks for your patience and apologies for the problems. We're working on a solution and will communicate more when we have that."

He did jump up like a fan when he was at one of Walter's last OF wins, alongside Souness, and we scored.

I have no idea what I will be able to attend, so there's no point in me voting, somewhat surprisingly it looks like I have an offer for a ticket for the OF game if work allows and I presume I could get one for the games on the other dates. So I will wait and see what is decided upon and if I can make it even the time comes, then great.

The game in Scotland could be killed off the way things are going.

According to a thread on FF, we beat Kilmarnock 2-1 in a behind closed doors game earlier today. No further details.