neutralscot
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I have read recently that DK made more in paper profits from the share rally of a company he is chairman and major shareholder off in three months than he paid to SARS. (more than 40M pounds). The company stock ticker is MMG and is listed in SA. I do believe he has the funds to buy Rangers is required.
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Excellent piece Hildy. Better writing than anything in paid media. Irvine Welsh recently said a term - 'the sectarian doped old firm,' in a disparaging answer as to why the old firm win in Scotland all the time. Traditions, loyalty, yada yada. Ultimately it will hold both clubs back though. The EPL in it's earlier days will have certainly discussed the old firm in response to approaches, but I feel justified in speculating that the nutter element of both clubs,and policing, will ultimately have been the discouraging factor in rejecting overtures. The nutters may have held the club back from being a truly global powerhouse. Idle chatter I know. Both the old firm are hostage to a very sizeable element who believe in dragging fairly extreme politics into their club, projecting an image of Rangers as beholden to a right wing, and celtic as a hotbed of terrorist sympathisers and activists to everyone else. Right wing politics are generally unpalatable to the modern middle class, (everything is wishy washy these days- it's not the early 20th century) and you'll lose some of a demographic by being associated with it. A club which operates and is perceived as being inclusive will commercially prosper easier in normal market conditions than a non inclusive one. Barca learned this over the years. The fact that you are debating it is however fantastic. But hey, both clubs have massive supports, and as William Burroughs said 'Earth is a war planet. War and games." Cheer up Hildy. I notice you have a dark view this now, but I'm sure rangers will come good again soon. You'll wipe the floor with the hibbies - the players will literally be on £500 a week, and the jambos were actually building a team under Locke, but levein will mess it up. If you went to easter road this season (and it is the coldest ground in Scotland I swear) and didn't see a win in over a dozen home games you'd know about misery. It's been like Ripping Yarns.
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Bluebear - why do you think he feels it necessary to come out in the open now?
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Admin's - any chance of changing the title of this thread? Neutraltimmmy's had his fun, but enough's enough. --- You know I'm not hiding the fact I'm not a Rangers fan - I'm actually from near Leith in Edinburgh and a Hibs fan. I post on this site because I believe Gersnet is an important site - there is a level of intelligent scrutiny here sadly absent from most other sites, and a refreshing lack of pseudo sectarian nonsense. I'd go as far to say that Gersnet is the best and most informative read on football out of the whole UK media, online or printed. Unfortunately for the rest of us it mostly just pertains to Rangers. The level of scrutiny you guys are putting your club under is the new benchmark for any group of supporters and I wish you all the best in your titanic struggles, as I do with Coventry fans, Portsmouth etc. The struggle of the fans against corporate wreckers, despots, and ****s supersedes all tribal loyalties. I used to read the Absolute Game fanzine which was the best printed fanzine of the 80s and 90s. Check it out. Gersnet currently best site. Keep up the good work. And yes Hampden - used correctly it can only strengthen the opposition's hand against the current board by sowing doubt into the possible 'sale and leaseback' of Ibrox.
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Celtic 7 Rangers 1? LOL Bloody hell sorry. As an aside, Rumours sweeping around Hibs fans that Roman Abramovich is wanting to buy Hibs to keep a larger squad for Chelsea handy. Contact been made. Proof that the water supply in Edinburgh is contaminated with hallucinogenic drugs
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Is your radar twitching? Fateful day? Uneasy? Is it a celtic reference to the Hampden Riot or something?
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I'd have thought that a joint purchase with the SFA of a new long lease at Hampden, (which expires 2020) with a view to eventual redevelopment will have been mulled over by DK. If Rangers are liquidated again, this option would fit DK's 'not a penny' mantra, and deprive 'the ****s' of a more bountiful return on the assets. At the very least, tactically, DK could bring Hampden into the arena as a piece of leverage against the board, as unpalatable as the prospect may appear to the support.
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I thought Miller and Kris Boyd were near certain to sign? If they are signed, as retro as it appears, the Championship will be a canter.
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Actually I take back what I previously said about there being dozens of better managers in Scotland alone. The reality is he is still unproven, with good league form combined with poor cup form. He definitely deserves more time.
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Ally's minimum five year target: 2014-2015………………………Championship champions 2015-2016………………………SPFL top two, one domestic trophy 2016-2017………………………SPFL top two, one domestic trophy, qualification from group stages of Europa League 2017-2018………………………SPFL champions, qualification from group stages of Europa League 2018-2019………………………SPFL champions, qualification into Champions League group stages
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I think for people to assassinate McCoist over unknown off-field issues is wrong. It is true he may have been buying shares as a show of support for Rangers. He may have changed his mind about telling fans to buy shares as initially he may have believed the club wouldn't survive or at that time he hadn't been given the assurances he needed. As for his pay packet - very unfair. AM has a very high profile and can earn a certain level of money every year no matter what, and £800,000 to Ally won't have seemed extraordinary in the least. So in summary - no one knows exactly how or why McCoist has behaved as he has over last few years (out of love for the club I'd guess) and it is wrong to hound a club legend like him. Indeed he may have been the difference between Rangers not existing at all and the current situation. As a manager and coach - well there are probably dozens of better managers in Scotland alone. Director of Football beckons.
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It does appear that admin 2 is on everyone's agenda. There are so many known unknowns and unknown unknowns that gambling on admin to provide a clean ownership break with all assets seems risky. Considering the market cap is currently under £20M, why oh why doesn't someone try buying £10M of (admittedly limited) shares to take overall control of the club? Why? Only desperate purchasing of shares by a couple of the board has seen the price rise from about the value of the physical assets. Anyone interested should be buying at these prices now- unless they are recklessly inviting admin to save a few million. This would be the ideal scenario: Ally McCoist, after a long lucrative career in which he has accumulated great wealth and with the help of a few friends and colleagues, purchases a controlling interest in the club. He moves upstairs to become chairman, and appoints Frank and Ronad De Boer to completely overhaul the football department in their image and to deliver a team full of youths ready to challenge for the SPFL in three years, and the last 8 of the CL in 5 years. All the while they must bring in £6M+ in transfers every year to help keep the whole operation viable. Season tickets sell out. The share price trebles to 90p, Rangers have market cap of £60M. A new share issue is made at this point, raising £30M+. Ally can sell a few back now for healthy profit if desired. Ally hangs on though, and proves a master at managing the club as CEO. Rangers move forward as a self financing, cash rich club. Some of it's investors are hedge funds. They see pre ordained profit targets being reached and sell their shares. McCoist makes deals with hedge funds etc to give fans opportunity to buy first. Slowly the ****s take their profits and leave, and the club regains it's stature and soul. Ally ,I'm sure if you looked down the back of the sofa and phoned Walter and Graeme you'd cobble the money together. OK?
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No I'm a completely new poster- and I'm not here to indulge myself in anyone's misery, nor do I have any duplicitous motive. I read every team's blogs - I've posted on Celtic sites and been called 'a hun', posted on Bill McMurdo's and basically had people trying to intimidate me. I'm posting here because it is genuinely the only old firm blog that has a quality informative forum. I suppose as Scottish football's quality declines, as competition declines, as star players are nowhere to be seen, the boardroom shenanigans at clubs is about the only interesting aspect of Scottish football now. At least for a wee while yet. To think just a few years ago we had Gascioigne, Laudrup, Larsson, Canniggia (at Dundee!!), Latapy, playing in the SPL. Before that we had the new firm running riot in Europe. Before that we had the old firm genuinely feared throughout Europe. What do we have now? I'd like to see the SPFL introduce a financial fair play procedure to stop the likes of Rangers, Hearts falling victim to megalomaniacs, and for equal distribution of all finances except match day income distributed evenly throughout the league, if not in fact weighted towards the smaller clubs.
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OK. I suppose I don't understand the whole sense of doom and gloom around Ibrox. As far as I can see; - a rookie manager was appointed, made rookie mistakes, has been poor in the cups, but has been a steady hand despite the chaos, and achieved objectives in the league. Football has been poor but with Dean Shields etc what does anyone expect? Player negotiation has probably been the poorest part of the squad build. - Charles Green, Ahmad etc may have been a naughty boys, but without them it was possible the club would have been finished totally, and maybe it was an acceptable price to pay for their help. - The present board, though not perfect, are trying to turn things around, and are not overcharging etc (except Wallace bonus perhaps). -DK, like the blue knights etc, (and the People's Front of Judea) had their chance and did nothing but talk. They are being unreasonable about people like the Easdales who actually put their money in (and don't even take a wage as far as I know). Am I missing something here about the civil war?
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Do you think it is checkmate, or at least check, against DK? I find it difficult to see how he can influence the board to any extent if there is a new share issue (unless of course he is buying). I would have thought if Rangers get through to a share issue, there will be no administration in the future. How quickly will they manage to produce a new share issue in your opinions? This is surely the most pertinent issue facing the board, if reports (i.e. tittle tattle) of under 3000 season tickets are true. Also, ignoring the small buys by a couple of the board this week, why aren't the current board ploughing in at these share prices? Is it a lack of shares on offer?
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Hi there, first post, great site. I read lots of blogs etc and this is the best one in Scotland by a distance. If Rangers FC cannot continue as a going concern, in the event of the Dave King faction starving the board out, what happens? How does Rangers International deal with this?