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Oh, I get that, but even more raging we didn't win now 😀

2-0 Hearts, don't know if I feel better or worse now about our defeat yesterday (if that makes sense).

Born this day 1920

Like I'm gonna report anyone on a forum 😀 that would be yahooesque 😆

Fair doo's! I was gonna post a longer reply, but what's the point.

Robertson must have been reading Gersnet this morning - who's the Mason In The Black I did note prior to the red card, Celtic got a penalty. Not watching it as working so don't know whether either decision was justified 😀

Oh dear, what a reply from a "moderator" Nevermind, what ever I post in here is just a laugh - that makes it 👍👌

Fair doo's! Seems that a few on here are not allowed to disagree with the "popular" opinion without being trolled and chastised, or being told, its just a bit of fun. This place has been honking for a wee while, just when watching Rangers was getting to be enjoyable. Nevermind at least I'm in line for a gold medal 🏅

I said to a friend pre-match that I was worried about yesterday's game, more so than Hearts and / or Killie. Motherwell are a well organised, physical and hard working team. They are 3rd top scorers in the league. To lose any game is gutting, but Motherwell deserved their victory and games / performances and results like that happen. It's how we react to this that is the more concerning aspect. After we lost to Celtic we went on a great run, we'll need to do the same again but with the current injuries it's going to become increasingly difficult. PS - when do I get my gold 🏅

Hahaha 😆 Pot. Kettle......😆

So he wasn't MOTM then 😀 and I'll change my vote to Tav. If BB had put in that 1st half performance, he'd have been slaughtered. Yilmaz was a little better in the 2nd half but was posted missing at the 1st goal.

That's not what I said at all and you know it. The underlying question is why are referees "frightened" to give us on-field decisions? 90% incorrect calls for last 9 penalties. These are indisputable facts, not theories. Also, who was Hugh Dallas scared off? Who would have caused a riot if he had applied the rules of the game, which he is paid to do? Again, Dallas has admitted this, so no conspiracy theories, more indisputable evidence. If you are OK being blasé about £50M then more fool you.

Is there an option to vote for the referee? Slim pickings - gone with Dio no one really stood out in a game riddled with mistakes.

I'm argumentative as it's a subject thats worth arguing / discussing, it's pivotal to us winning the league or not. Yesterday's VAR decision on the McCausland challenge is beyond ambiguity. The videos and the still clearly show that under the rules of the game, the ONLY outcome is a red card. Somehow, given this evidence, whoever was on VAR decided to ignore the evidence and stick with the onfield decision. What do you call it when an official refuses to enforce the rules or the game? Let's look at another star - 8 our of our last 9 penalties have been missed by the on-field officials and been awarded via VAR. That's almost 90% incorrect decisions from the on-field officials. Are you saying our referees as so bad that they get 90% decisions of our penalty decisions wrong? Or, is there another reason? If you and your team at work were to make errors 90% of the time, would yous not be questioned or in reality, sacked? You conveniently keep ignoring the Hugh Dallas admission, but it's crucial to this discussion / argument. Hugh Dallas admitted to not applying the laws of the game to our decrement, as he feared a "riot". Now it's unclear if he means in the stands, from the media, or from his bosses, but the admission still stands. So if one referee, for whatever reason has admitted to not applying the laws of the game, how many others have done the same? I said at the start of this reply that it's crucial we quesrion these as it'll impact our ability to win pints and possibly the title. That would mean we lose out on £50M. Are you suggesting that £50M isn't worth arguing about, or question referees and VAR when the make clear and obvious errors? It's not yahooesque to do so, it's common bloody sense

Thats the conundrum - we can all (well most of us) see that referees / VAR are missing vital decisions that are costing us points. Whether we highlight / quesrion these decisions or not, years of dignified silence from us and pressure from them and outside forces (media) has led referees becoming almost untouchable and immune to being questioned

So now you've admitted its a red, care to explain why VAR didn't advise the Referee to send the player off? It's not incompetence as you've admitted that in modern day football it's a red. Also, why are you so reluctant, sorry, refusing to make a comment on Hugh Dallas admitting he cheated Rangers?

Still sidestepping the High Dallas question I see. no reason to bin VAR, just need people who'll judge incidents fairly. Still not convinced It's a red?

What about Hugh Dallas, do you need to see the replays of that as well? Stills are used all the time by VAR - its a red card today, its a red card every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. No amount of incompetence can excuse VAR missing this red card offence.

So how would you explain the non-red card today? I can understand the argument that the Referee missing it due to him being a terrible referee. How did VAR then miss it and back up the Referee? There is no ambiguity about the challenge. The still I shared earlier shows its a straight red card. VAR would have that image, how do you explain them not advising the Referee to send the player off? I'll post it below again so there is no ambiguity. How do you explain Hugh Dallas admitting on a podcast that's still viewable that he took a decision not to send a Celtic player off during an OF game, when he should have, as he feared his decision would "cause a riot"? Was Hugh inept, or was he cheating? I've asked these questions directly and indirectly a few times and you've side-stepped answering them with a grace that Brian Laudrup and Davie Cooper would be proud off.

If our officials and VAR have nothing to hide, perhaps we should adopt the rugby process where the replays etc are shown on screen, and the audio between VAR / officials is broadcast live at the game. Transparency shouldn't be an issue surely?

Doesn't mean we're incorrect though. However, if it makes us sound like them, should we stop questioning referees and accept ridiculous decisions going against us on a week by week basis? A stonewall penalty denied at Kllie whilst Killie were awarded a non-penalty. Today one of our players was injured due to a tackle that merited a straight red card. The referee didn't even award it as a foul, whilst VAR deemed it an acceptable tackle. A former referee admitting in a podcast he cheated us in a OF game. What will it take for you to start questioning referees? Or does 'sounding like them' make it never acceptable to question these type of decisions? That's a serious question and would be interested in hearing your answer.

I can't wait for the MOTM poll 😀

Funnily enough European referees tend to send Celtic players off and award penalties against them. Obviously they are less corupt, sorry, inept than Scottish refs. So you're right, Peter is never gonna allow it.

Is the compliance officer still a thing? Or has VAR made that role redundant (serious question). If it is still in operation, then this must be reviewed.