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As Frankie says moderating on the busier forums is slightly different than moderating on here but it amazes me that you can get banned for giving a normal honest opinion. To be honest we only hear one side of the story but we hear the same story time and again which seems to add up.

Instead of doing nothing and getting paid.:grin:

I read or heard that same story about a week or more ago. It is certainly not new news. Again it is filled with believed and maybe.

I can't imagine we would let McGregor walk away when he may bring in a 5million transfer kitty. That would shock me to be honest.

Personally I think they may let Aluko stay but as with everyone it is guesswork.

THE Sunday Mail last night tracked down runaway Rangers chief Craig Whyte to a luxury apartment in a millionaireâ??s playground on the French Riviera. We found the businessman, who flew out of Britain as the extent of Rangersâ?? financial chaos emerged, in his £3million flat in Monaco. But when we asked to talk, Whyte hid in his apartment and refused to answer his buzzer. In an earlier telephone call to his Monte Carlo bolthole â?? 1000 miles from Ibrox â?? the 40-year-old had refused to apologise to Rangers fans for driving their club into administration. We can reveal that Whyte flew from London to Nice on Thursday before heading to the property close to the principalityâ??s exclusive St Roman harbourside. He spent Friday holed up in the Roc Fleuri building, where apartments command monthly rents of up to £40,000. Whyteâ??s full name appears on the buzzer. Neighbouring properties house the French and German embassies. Yesterday, he remained out of sight as Rangers manager Ally McCoist prepared to take his patched-up team to face Inverness Caley Thistle today. His players fear it could be their last game for the club as administrators â?? faced with a £9million PAYE and VAT demand and awaiting the result of a £45million tax case â?? move to cut costs. Asked if he felt it was time to apologise to Ibrox fans over his running of the club, Whyte said: â??Iâ??m not giving any interviews today.â? Asked the question a second time, he hung up the landline inside the apartment. The Sunday Mail can reveal that Whyte has had no contact with administrators Duff & Phelps since Tuesday and friends believe it is â??highly unlikelyâ? that he will go to another Rangers match. A source said: â??If you are asking if he will be back at Ibroxâ?¦ that would be highly unlikely. â??There is a feeling now that it would be counterproductive for him to do that. â??He is in Monaco but he is not there to hide â?? his attitude is that he is not hiding away.â? Whyte has not been seen in public since February 15, the day after the club were placed in administration, when he met staff at Duff & Phelpsâ?? London offices. Since then, he has been berated by fans after he admitted using a £24million payment from Ticketus to fund his takeover â?? something he had categorically denied. craig whyte monaco Image 1 The money was given after Whyte handed the firm the rights to 60 per cent of Rangersâ?? season tickets for at least three seasons. Despite speculation that Whyte was in Costa Rica, he had been staying with friends in the south east of England. He has been left out of the loop as administrators work through the financial wreckage at Ibrox. Sources yesterday said Whyte has privately accepted he has to take a back seat. One said: â??It is probably best for all concerned that he is out of the way for a while. â??The whole thing is severely unravelling and his presence in Glasgow wouldnâ??t be helping anyone.â? But Rangers fans â?? some of whom praised Whyte for fronting up outside Ibrox after placing the club in administration â?? will be furious. While their owner enjoys the sun in the south of France, the team languish 23 points behind bitter rivals Celtic in the SPL. And almost every day since his departure has brought a new bombshell about Whyteâ??s running of the club. Yesterday, it emerged he had mortgaged off the clubâ??s catering in a deal involving financing firm Close Brothers. That followed the revelation that he sold Rangersâ?? historic shareholding in Arsenal for £230,000. Whyte is facing four separate investigations into his running of Rangers since his takeover last May â??by Strathclyde Police, HMRC, the administrators and the SFA. Whyte first moved to Monaco in 2000 after leaving a trail of angry creditors and a tax investigation following the collapse of his Vital UK firm. craig whyte monaco Image 1 In an interview that year, his then fiancee Kim said: â??You can leave bags of shopping in the back of your convertible and theyâ??ll still be there when you return. â??I could walk down the street with millions of poundsâ?? worth of jewellery and no one would look twice.â? The pair later moved to Costa Rica before returning to Scotland as a married couple. In an interview with the Sunday Mail last week, his father-in-law Hugh Martin branded him â??a man who doesnâ??t know the meaning of the word honestyâ?. Whyteâ??s spokesman declined to comment yesterday. Director Andrew Ellis last week apologised for bringing Whyte to Ibrox, claiming he was â??dupedâ?. London-based businessman Ellis introduced Whyte to former Rangers owner Murray in November 2010 and after his own takeover failed. Ellis, who joined the Ibrox board in January, said: â??I can only say Iâ??m sorry to the Rangers fans. â??Bringing Craig to the table was done in good faith and like a lot of other people I feel let down by him. I took Craig to meet Sir David Murray in the south of France and thatâ??s when talks began and Iâ??m distraught that it has ended up like this. â??My interest in buying the club had ended due to the potential cost of the impending tax case but I had met Craig via the Cadbury family and was told by people that he was a very successful and wealthy businessman who was interested in buying Rangers. â??He appeared to have the money, he showed me proof of funds and told me about the numerous companies he owned. â??I was absolutely devastated last week to see the club go into administration with jobs at risk. â??But it could have been avoided.â? Revealed - Bain's £400k probe martin bain rangers Image 1 Ibrox administrators are scrutinising documents suggesting former chief executive Martin Bain was paid £400,000 when the club were sold to Craig Whyte. Paperwork taken from former chairman Sir David Murrayâ??s offices on Friday suggests Bain received the cash. Bain, who earned more than £600,000 a year, is now suing his old club for £1.3million and has frozen £480,000 of their funds. Rangersâ?? administrators Duff & Phelps yesterday refused to comment but sources say they are trying to discover if the £400,000 payment was a bonus linked to the sale of the Ibrox giants. Itâ??s claimed Bain was given the sum by Murray soon after the club sale last May. The discovery was said to have been made after Duff & Phelps moneyman Paul Clark visited the former Rangers owner at his offices in Edinburgh on Friday. The administrators took paperwork and documents away with them and it is understood that the payment was detailed. Asked about the alleged payment, a Duff & Phelps spokesman would only say: â??No comment.â? Bainâ??s legal team also refused to comment. Bain, 44, joined Rangers in 1996 as commercial manager and was appointed chief executive by Murray in 2005. But he quit after being suspended along with then-finance director Donald McIntyre in the wake of Whyteâ??s takeover of the club last May. He later launched a £1.3million damages claim for alleged breach of contract. And he had £480,000 ringfenced by a court in July last year. A £300,000 compensation claim by McIntyre was then settled. On legal papers, Bainâ??s salary was listed as £610,800 plus hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses. Bainâ??s lawyer last night said he could not be reached to comment on the claims. Bain was suspended after concerns were raised about Whyteâ??s takeover by him and other directors. He was informed of the reasons by letter last May. We revealed last year how leaked legal documents showed Bain feared the club could be completely sunk by their massive tax bill. The 14-page document also questioned whether pledges about financing made by Whyte had been honoured. Fans have shown they have turned their back on Whyte since the club went into administration. But many also turned on Bain, and Murray who they blamed for years of *overspending.

Whyte did bring two positives to the table. Don't take shit from the media. And talk to the supporters.

I was thinking on his wage. There is nothing to be gained this year and Europe next year is gone because we have not entered accounts to be evaluated. As it is doubtful that he would be a main player next season then I would think he will be sacrificed sooner than later. Just a thought.

If the administrators do chop players who will it likely be. I may be totally wrong here. McGregor: I doubt it as he has a sell on value higher than his wages until the transfer window opens. Alexander: Strong possibility as he doesn't get a game and the youth keeper will be on a much lower wage Whittaker: debatable if his wage to the end of the season will be larger than his sell on price. Broadfoot: Little sell on price and a youth player will be on a lower wage so a strong possibility. Perry: Youth wage he will stay. Doran Gioan: Not sure but the total product may be weakened without him so may get a reprieve. Carlos Bocanegra: Again not sure but it could be that a duo of Perry and Doran could see Carlos being expendable. Sasa Papac.: Probably one of the larger wages and Lee Wallace may be seen as a better future investment. Certain candidate in my eyes. Lee Wallace: His age possible sell on value and lesser wage should see him safe. Kyle Bartley: If anyone goes then loan players should go first so he should be sent back to Arsenal. Lee McCulloch: High wage no sell on value a definite candidate. Maurice Edu: Sell on Value should just cover his wages until the end of the season. Steven Davis: Sell on value will not leave before the transfer market opens Steven Naismith: Although injured his sell on value should see him safe Sone Aluko: Will see out his contract but unless there is a cash input from a new owner he will be released when it expires. Alejandro Bedoya: Looks a certainty to follow Matt Makay out the door. Mervan Celik: Has shown little since coming may be released. Jamie Ness: Is injured more than he plays but a low wage and potential should see him through. Gregg Wylde: Possible sell on being more than his wage should see him stay. Rhys McCabe: Youth wage will stay. Kyle Lafferty: Does he still have a sell on value? If not thought so he will be released. David Healy: No sell on and looks to have spurned his chance in the team. Higher wage, he will be released. Salim Kerkar: Low wage and starting to perform should be safe. Andrew Little: Low wage should be safe Kane Hemmings: Low wage should be safe. These are my thoughts on how things could pan out but obviously it depends on how much the administrators need to save in the next month they may have to release all high earners whether they have a sell on value or not. I obviously hope not.

Is there much known about this guy Kennedy who keeps getting mentioned or is he another Whyte who has nothing really to offer and seeking publicity.

I thought jim McColl was mentioned. Is Tom Hunter not another possibility. Duncan Bannatyne ?

Obviously the worst financial deal we have ever made was letting Craig Whyte through the doors of Ibrox. Nothing will ever top that. Well in the first 400 years anyway

I agree with you both. I see the champions league ending up a competition between the richest clubs in the future, unfortunately.

Ally not wanting to say what he really feels.

That is what I was getting at as well Ian. Rangers should be doing everything to encourage guy's like elfideldo.

Fuck me it is 1euro 80 a litre here they are certainly not worth that. Barbecue oil would be better as it burns slower as well. Seriously we should let them in but work with rangers to put on a super supporter display and make sure we out-sing them for the whole game whether we win or lose. A huge banner of defiance would be great. Something like Green and Whyte will never prevail. We will be back stronger than ever.

I can only say one thing SUPERCOOPER Thanks for the memories!

I can't see why you should get banned for promoting another Rangers Forum unless it is for commercial reasons but I would say it is possibly handier if you contact their admin first to get their feelings on it and ask them to place a link.

I was admittedly totally against it but I think in this day of age we have to keep up with modern times and get every commercial deal we can. It would actually be quite funny if Orange wanted to do a piggery deal as well and the tims had to go to the orange stadium. That is one commercial deal they would turn down I think.:smile:

Have you ever tried explaining who you are and what you do to get special access as you have become a pair of eyes for a lot of supporters forums.

Sorry merged these I missed it first time round.

I guess these 2 were always walking a tightrope since the Administrators walked in.

The very last game I went to before leaving for Holland in 1980 was the infamous Old firm riot game. We always went into the Waterloo lounge(notice, Lounge and not bar,which was a poofs shop) before the game for a drink. After leaving we went round the corner to an off licence to get a carry out for the game. We were standing in the queue waiting to get served when a guy in a red jumper came running in, stripped it off and threw it in the corner out of sight and joined the queue in the middle. Next thing two cops came running in asking if anyone had seen a guy in a red jumper. Luckily for the guy nobody shopped him and the officers raced off to see if they could find him somewhere else. The game in it's self was actually pretty crap to be honest with the Tims getting a goal in extra time. Then things kicked off when the tim supporters came onto the pitch and made there way to the half-way line waving their scarf and flags. That was like a red rag to a bull and the Rangers supporters were soon pouring on to the pitch from the Rangers end. Like most of these incidents the most are just hangers on staying well out of the way of trouble but the real fighting machines were getting tore into each other around the middle line. Celtic getting handed the cup was actually lost in all the mayhem. Then the mounted police entered the field and started charging up and down the field which was really quite an awesome sight. They soon got the park cleared. The one thing that that I don't think was ever mentioned anywhere was that that hundreds\thousands of bottles were being thrown from the back of the terrace on to our own supporters. Given that the Celtic supporters were 50+ yards away I still can't understand why there were bottles being thrown as they were only landing on our own supporters. I was half-way down the terrace and thankfully there were large pillars holding up the roof in those days and I managed to get behind one but many fans needed treatment for wounds caused by a thrown bottle. One month later I started a new adventure in immigrating to Holland with that incident burnt into my brain. I have been to a few games since notably the Hibs game where Paul Gascoigne got yellow for showing the ref the yellow card after the ref had dropped it. I still can't believe the Ref never seen the humour in that incident. I haven't been back home for about 10 years now but I have been to a few pre season Friendlies over here, and in Germany.

Put my name in as well. Mainflyer have you never heard of Market research. If they have no idea what the interest is then they will never know whether it is worth beginning or not.

Because the guy is a fucking conman. Conmen don't give a shit about feelings of people and don't have any feeling of shame. All they are interested in is feeding their desire to trick people out of money and thus giving them a feeling of power.