ian1964

Shock surprise,penalty, red card,Considine again,game over

The mutton molesters look well up for this,suppose the best we can hope for is extra time and a few injuries:whistle:

34 minutes played,2-0 to Accies,should be three,HA HA fucking brilliant

http://leggoland2.blogspot.com/2011/04/piara-powar-and-celtic.html

17 Apr 2011 THE question you have to ask Rangers fans who sing sectarian songs is this: do they really care about the club? Because if you do, it has got to stop and it has got to stop now. You canââ?¬â?¢t just say it is a tiny minority that do it, or alternatively that it is all of the fans, but a good percentage of Rangers supporters are still singing these songs. It is something Rangers have been fighting against for years, and I donââ?¬â?¢t know if they will ever be able to change it, but they canââ?¬â?¢t ever give up trying. Just when you hoped it might have gone away, suddenly it has raised its ugly head again over the last season or so. I was very young when I went down to Chelsea to start my football career but my dad brought me up in Ayrshire as a Rangers fan. I went to the Scottish Cup final with him in 1976, when they beat Hearts 3-1 and Derek Johnstone scored a couple. We were in the Hearts end because there were so many Rangers fans there. But I never went to many games and I swear I never had a clue about the songs. I remember once I arrived at Rangers as a player, the fans would try to get me to play the flute and rubbish like that, but I didnââ?¬â?¢t play along at all. I didnââ?¬â?¢t know the songs, I didnââ?¬â?¢t know the words, and I didnââ?¬â?¢t want to know. Things are changing now and the fans have got to realise that some things are no longer acceptable. It is like racism, which has moved on hugely since the Mark Walters situation arose with the banana throwing. Times are moving on and fans have got to do the same with sectarianism. I know these fansââ?¬â?¢ mindset. Some of them will never change. It is defiance. Now they are humming these songs at games, so they are determined to get their message across whatever. But if they are not going to change for themselves, they should change for the sake of the club. The Rangers fans that are doing it are doing the club harm. They should be trying to help, but instead they are making it worse. The last thing the club needs is to be tarred with this. Pictures of games being played behind closed doors will affect the image of the club in the eyes of the world and the potential Ã?£2 million loss is the last thing the club needs financially with the way things are, and in the throes of a takeover which may or may not go through. The Craig Whyte deal is already taking so long, and this kind of thing could drag it on even further. I never played in a game which had to be played behind closed doors due to crowd misbehaviour but the closest I got was that famous game in Tallinn when I won my first full cap for my country. The Scotland fans were all there but it was eerie. Donââ?¬â?¢t get me wrong: I think Uefa are making an example of Rangers, I really do. They are using Rangers as an example to stop sectarianism across Europe, because there are other clubs out there that do it. I understand what Martin Bain is trying to say about it and he has to defend the clubââ?¬â?¢s interests. But that is not the same as saying Uefa are somehow in the wrong on this. They made their point about the PSV game away, and now they are making their point about the PSV game at home. You canââ?¬â?¢t say Rangers are unlucky or being picked on or that it is just a witch hunt. The phrase ââ?¬Ë?witch huntââ?¬â?¢ suggests people are looking for things that arenââ?¬â?¢t there. This problem is there for all to see. I donââ?¬â?¢t think if you are a Rangers director you could say otherwise. I want to speak about football, not political stuff. But the main talking points in Scottish football havenââ?¬â?¢t been about the football: there have been refsââ?¬â?¢ strikes, Celtic versus the SFA, now Paul McBride versus the SFA and Rangers and sectarianism. There needs to be a change in mentality given the way that Scottish football is going and the sooner we change it the better. You wonder how are we going to get the TV deals and sponsorship we need to make Scottish football better again. We start a campaign in this country then we forget all about it. Then suddenly it gathers pace again and we bring it back out. Once a month we should have an anti-sectarianism mission just like the Show Racism the Red Card campaign. Letââ?¬â?¢s keep it in peopleââ?¬â?¢s minds. I grew up knowing about sectarianism but not knowing about it, if you see what I mean. But my wee boy is into football now and he doesnââ?¬â?¢t have a clue about it. It would be great if we could keep it that way. I HAD a pop at Aberdeen in last weekââ?¬â?¢s column and they seemed to be fired up against Rangers in midweek. I expected that and I am sure they will be up for the game against Celtic this afternoon. I would never doubt their professionalism or how much they want to win but I just donââ?¬â?¢t think they are good enough and I expect Celtic to go through. http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/rangers/rangers-fans-must-face-the-music-billy-dodds-1.1096666

Sectarian row chief married to Celtic fan Published Date: 17 April 2011 By Tom Peterkin THE head of the anti-racism watchdog that has provided evidence of sectarianism which could lead to Rangers having to shut Ibrox for European ties is married to an ardent Celtic fan, it has been revealed. Piara Powar, the executive director of the Football Against Racism in Europe (FARE) network, is the husband of Aasmah Mir, the BBC broadcaster who has described herself as an enthusiastic Celtic supporter. Last week, Powar was forced to defend his organisation against claims that an orchestrated campaign had been waged against Rangers, which had resulted in the charges of sectarian singing being brought against the Ibrox club. It has now emerged that Powar's Glaswegian wife has been reported as declaring herself "passionate" about Rangers' Old Firm rivals, Celtic. And in a past interview, Mir, a presenter on BBC Radio 5 live Drive who was brought up in Bearsden, has been quoted as saying that she could "never" support Rangers, because she remembered men in the club's shirts handing out BNP leaflets when she was at school. Rangers were last week charged by UEFA with an offence of alleged sectarian singing by their supporters following the first leg of their Europa League tie with PSV Eindhoven last month. The club is appealing against the decision later this month but, if unsuccessful, it faces a �£100,000 fine and having its fans banned from its next two away fixtures. The team will also have to play its next two home matches behind closed doors after reports that sectarian songs were sung at the PSV Eindhoven return leg at Ibrox. Rangers are angry that UEFA's correspondence on the subject includes a complaint from Powar's FARE organisation. At the hearing, Rangers will argue that UEFA should not act on complaints from outside bodies, which might contradict the observations of their own match delegates. The club's chief executive, Martin Bain, said Rangers had never denied that sectarian singing was a problem but added: "This now has all the hallmarks of a deliberate and targeted campaign against the club." There is no suggestion that Mr Powar's wife's views have played any part in his decision-making, but the revelation is sure to add to the controversy. Yesterday, the Rangers Supporters Trust complained that FARE had taken a "highly subjective" approach to the issue of offensive behaviour at matches. Smith suggested Rangers had been treated unfairly compared with clubs in Spain and Russia. He also said that Spurs fans had shouted racist abuse when the London club played Real Madrid recently. "Racism is endemic in Spanish football, and Russian football is riddled with it," Smith said. "FARE have a questionable agenda. That's our concern. We are looking to them to explain what Martin Bain has been talking about." Smith claimed that the Trust had also written to FARE about racist treatment dished out to their Senegalese striker El Hadji Diouf, but had not had a reply. Mir, 39, is from a Scottish/Pakistani family . After graduating in law from Bristol University, she worked in newspapers and for Scottish Television. Her CV includes stints on BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Scotland. She is a regular on Lorraine Kelly's ITV show Lorraine and joined BBC Five live 10 years ago. Mir has said in interviews that she began supporting Celtic when she worked at Scottish Television. In interviews, she has described herself as a "huge" and "passionate" fan. She said she chose Celtic, because she saw the team as the underdogs. She said: "I've always had an affection for the underdog. But it never was going to be Rangers anyway - not since my schooldays when I remember these older guys coming to the school gates wearing Rangers tops and handing out leaflets supporting the BNP." Mir and Powar declined to comment yesterday, as did Rangers FC. http://sport.scotsman.com/celticfc/Sectarian-row-chief-married-to.6753118.jp?articlepage=2

By Andrew Smith, Tom English and Moira Gordon Ibrox annus horribilis goes from bad to worse but somehow championship title is still a live prospect SANCTIONS from UEFA over sectarian singing, a takeover that remains in the balance, bankers putting on the squeeze and scares over a tax case that could spiral Rangers into insolvency. Manager Walter Smith would be forgiven for dreading what next might assail his beloved club. "I hope there's not anything that comes next. There can't be a 'next'," says Smith. Remarkably, what could come next is Rangers snaring their third consecutive title. For, in the midst of all their batterings and buffetings, the Scottish Premier League fixture list for the post-split games means the Ibrox men must be considered slight favourites for the championship. Celtic have five away games in their final seven, one of these at Ibrox. Rangers have any number of ready-made excuses for forgivable failure. Smith has never allowed his players to seize on these. The state of the Ibrox squad might not be so parlous as is popularly promoted, considering �£4m from sales was reinvested in Nikica Jelavic only last summer. However, the fact that Rangers have continued to squeeze out victories to give them a real chance of sending Smith into his retirement next month with a 21st trophy and tenth title, in the face of deluge of negative headlines, is testament to their manager's strength of character. "If we look at recent events, the different things going on around the club, I can't say it doesn't have an effect on us," Smith states. "But we've had a circumstance for three years now where we've had to sit down with every player and tell them they're up for sale. They've been seeing the squad get gradually reduced. Maybe, they've actually become a bit immune to the things that have happened on the outside. Whatever anyone says about our team, we've handled the circumstances of our club really well from the footballing side. The players haven't allowed it to affect them too greatly. But it's now reaching a tipping point - every day now you feel as if there's something different that takes the focus away from the football. "We've avoided it so far. The UEFA charge last week was bad enough, this week it's worse. I've said to the boys it's a big test and challenge for everyone here, from myself all the way down, to keep our concentration levels purely on the football side of things." The absence of a takeover and the loss of the tax case would preclude Ally McCoist being able construct a competitive side. That would be a real tipping point of everything that's gone on. And everything that has gone on has, Smith admits, spoiled his final season at the club. "I would have liked the season to have gone smoothly. I don't mean we would have to win, just be competitive and able to concentrate on the football side. We had a fair idea it wouldn't be the case towards the end of last season; that there would be other things with the club up for sale. Now you can add this latest UEFA charge and it's a shame." ANDREW SMITH Tribunal resumes tomorrow on the '10,000lb gorilla in the room' When it comes to the Rangers tax case one certainty can be stated. The First Tier tribunal resumes tomorrow at a tax chamber in Edinburgh and is scheduled to sit for the next fortnight in private, with a decision expected within a month to six weeks. Under the microscope will be the Murray Group's Employment Benefit Trust which operated between 2001 and 2010 for some salaried employees of the Ibrox club. And depending on which tax experts you believe, the tribunal ruling could either sound the death knell for Rangers as we know the club, or clear the way for a takeover. As we also know, when discussing the club's half-year results a fortnight ago, Rangers chairman Alistair Johnston described the tax bill from HMRC - which is said to have lodged a demand for an unpaid sum of �£24m - as a "10,000lb gorilla in the room" and that "you don't know how hungry it is". The tone of such comments suggests the club will in some way require to satiate HMRC's appetite for what it sees as tax evasion.Yet, the other side of this is the fact that Rangers have appointed QC Andrew Thornhill to argue their case. He is one of three Queen's Counsel on their bench convinced they can successfully argue that the EBTs the club operated were then run in similar fashion at a number of companies. Thornhill is considered the country's leading legal figure on such matters. The Chambers guide describes Thornhill as "a superb heavy hitter against the Revenue". What can be gleaned of the case suggests he had better be. Rangers elected to make payments to players and other employees through what are called loans to EBT totalling �£33m in all. No PAYE and NI contributions are made on these, with the idea being the loans will be repaid. In practice, they never were and became benefits in kind, a loophole since closed by HMRC. At the initial hearing last October, evidence from a number of players was heard, though there was not sufficient time to get through all those called. It emerged the club had indemnified all players from paying tax on their loans, which may or may not be used against Rangers by an HMRC determined to squeeze the use of EBTs as it mounts what it sees as a major crackdown on all forms of tax avoidance. Were Rangers to lose they would be liable for interest on the underpaid tax, calculated at around �£10m. Then there could be a fine, around 75 per cent of the original sum, that would add a further �£18m to a bill that, weighing in at around �£52m, Johnston has admitted the club could not pay. Neither could David Murray, with Lloyds in no mood to extends his credit facilities that have been again stretched with Murray International Holdings' debts standing at �£713m, despite a 25 per cent debt-for-equity swap with the company's bankers. The bottom line is that if the HMRC is successful in the case against Rangers there appears no way that administration can be avoided. The situation is that stark. ANDREW SMITH It is stated that the hold-ups in the takeover saga are down to legal bureaucracy rather than anything more sinister, but the longer it goes on the more uncertain the Rangers fans will become. Whyte has proven to all parties that he has the funds to buy the club and believes that there is a will to get the deal completed. There is an acceptance in all camps that the coming week is pivotal. TOM ENGLISH http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/top-stories/The-unravelling-of-Rangers.6753156.jp?articlepage=4

By Tom English RIGHT, who did it? Who ratted them out? Has Hoopy the Huddle Hound accounted for his whereabouts on the nights of 10 March and 17 March this year? Has anybody combed the Philips Stadion in Eindhoven and Ibrox and found his paw prints anywhere near this controversy, has anybody established a link between Celtic's canine cheerleader and this organisation with a dramatically elevated profile, Football Against Racism In Europe (FARE)? Such an ironic name, really, given the supposed unfairness of what is happening to Rangers at the moment. Two UEFA charges for sectarian chanting and both of them thanks to FARE's shadowy presence in Holland and Glasgow. This is the burning issue, is it? Who are the people landing Rangers in trouble? Who would sink so low as to orchestrate what Martin Bain calls a witch-hunt against the club? Well, let's just go along with the Rangers take on things and call it a conspiracy. Let's say that FARE, and their leader, Piara Powar, were put up to it by Celtic supporters who are either (a) genuinely perturbed at the songs being sung by Rangers fans or (b) are gleeful about the songs and the opportunity they present to land their rivals in some serious bother. Powar goes into work one morning and switches on his laptop and, suddenly, whoooosh! Hundreds of e-mails from "concerned citizens" of Glasgow asking them to investigate the truly awful behaviour of these people from across the city, this bigoted rabble that shame Scotland. They include newspaper articles and, just to be helpful, a collection of YouTube videos with a helpful lyrics guide just in case the words don't come over loud and clear on the links. This, after all, is the raison d'etre of FARE. They want supporters to contact them if they feel they're being victimised or if they've witnessed behaviour that is racist, homophobic or sectarian. That is why they are here. So Powar listens, as he must. And he mobilises an observer to go to Eindhoven and Ibrox and report on what is being sung. And, lo, sectarian chanting is heard. So, I guess you could call this a witch-hunt if you like. But then witch-hunts are commonplace between Old Firm fans. These people, clearly with too much time on their hands and too much hate in their bones, are inventive in the way they create trouble for each other and social media has it made all the easier. Wasn't it a witch-hunt that saw many people - could they have been Rangers people by any chance? - contacting Strathclyde Police a little while back stating categorically that they heard Neil Lennon using racist language against El-Hadji Diouf, when he did not. And before that, wasn't it a witch-hunt - inspired by Celtic fans, perchance? - that had the inbox of Peter Kearney, the spokesman for the Catholic Church in Scotland, bursting with indignation about Hugh Dallas and a stupid e-mail that eventually cost him his job? The tit-for-tat has been around for a long, long time. It's part of life in the Old Firm. And it's going to continue. Can you imagine Powar's inbox now? I'm guessing it's about to explode from all the e-mails from Rangers folk pointing out the things that Celtic fans sing and do, how their songbooks are bigoted, how they warrant investigation also. Bain says this: "This now has all the hallmarks of a deliberate and targeted campaign against the club. What else are we to expected to believe when UEFA officials give us favourable reports at our matches only to indict us later on the evidence of an outside unaccountable body?" Well, that's not strictly accurate. Since FARE receive a lot of funding from UEFA then they are answerable to them. Bain says that the official UEFA reports on both PSV games were favourable, but Geir Thorsteinsson of Iceland was UEFA's man in Holland and he made note of sectarian chanting on the night, so it can't have been all that favourable. William Campbell, the head of operations for the Irish Football Association in Belfast, was the UEFA delegate in Glasgow for the return leg of the PSV tie. He didn't mention sectarianism. Rangers people are, understandably, getting exercised about who exactly is feeding FARE their information to begin with. It's not exactly the point, though. The point is that wherever they are getting it from - a spiteful fringe of the Celtic support or wherever else - the information is correct. It's not vicious gossip, it's the truth. There was sectarian singing. Not just in the ties with PSV, but also in earlier games. I reported on the home match with Sporting Lisbon. A line from my piece on the night: "The songs (early on at any rate) were not upbeat dreams of Europe but rather grim reminders of domestic strife. Chants about Celtic and fenians filled the Broomloan Road stand for a short while. What desperados are these? Sunday, clearly, was too long for them to wait to cut loose with such poison." Sunday was the Old Firm derby. More singing. From both sides, no doubt, but Rangers have been under UEFA surveillance for years, they have been fined and they have been warned and the fact that they may now be banned should come as no surprise to anybody. Let's face it, it's been a long time coming, if it happens. Bain talks about an orchestrated campaign. Well, there wouldn't be a campaign at all if there was nothing to campaign about, but there is. The vermin rump that sing these songs will not shut up. They are a desperate burden on their club and a weight on the shoulders of the majority of Rangers people who want nothing to do with that kind of chanting. The SPL won't act against them. The wretched SFL have still said nothing after the epic bouts of Rangers sectarian chanting during their own Co-operative Insurance Cup final, so along come FARE and UEFA and maybe now something will be done. Maybe. The Rangers chief executive says he is "astounded". He is talking about "alleged" sectarian singing. He is looking for "urgent meetings" with UEFA at the highest level. He is clearly suspicious about how these charges came to pass. Fine, you'd have to worry about FARE and how they might be manipulated by the cyber warriors hell-bent on landing "the other mob" in trouble. But the bottom line is this. Was there bigoted singing during the PSV tie? Was there bigoted singing during the Sporting Lisbon tie? Was there bigoted singing in other European ties this season. Yes, yes and yes again. It might trouble Rangers people as to how FARE came to know about their chanting problem, but it's really quite irrelevant. If you're guilty then no matter how many times you shoot the messenger it's still not going to make you innocent. http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/top-stories/Tom-English-39If-you39re-guilty.6753199.jp?articlepage=3

I don't think I'm alone in believing that the ongoing campaign to denigrate Rangers has gone too far. I don't think I'm alone when I say that no other group in society would dare get such a public kicking. I don't think I'm alone when I sense an increasingly hostile climate in the west of Scotland between supporters of Rangers and Celtic. I don't think I'm alone in feeling a rising anger bordering on fury at the sectarian campaign being waged against Rangers Football Club. I don't think I'm alone when I see Neil Lennon pontificating publicly about sectarianism and wondering why searching questions about his behaviour are conspicuous by their absence. I don't think I'm alone when I perceive our national media, particularly BBC Scotland and Radio Clyde, to be less than professional in their handling of this very serious issue. I don't think I'm alone when I see anti-sectarian crusaders covering their ears and closing their eyes to sectarian behaviour when it doesn't involve Rangers supporters. I don't think I'm alone when I suspect that there is an organised and sectarian campaign which is intent on seriously damaging Rangers Football Club. I don't think I'm alone in noticing our politicians and pundits ducking and bobbing and weaving when it comes to Scotland's sectarian schools issue. I don't think I'm alone when I sense a deep reluctance by politicians, pundits and media to disappoint the Catholic Church in Scotland. I don't think I'm alone when I suspect that the Scottish Labour Party is gripped by sectarianism. I don't think I'm alone when I see 'sectarianism' being used as a weapon to bash just one football club - but not Scotland's sectarian schools, or Scotland's sectarian Labour Party, or indeed Celtic Football Club which has been sectarian since its first breath. I don't think I'm alone in believing that the current anti-sectarianism campaign is a sham, and with those behind it happy to turn a blind eye to sectarianism of one sort but eager to come down on it like a ton of bricks when it is the other. I don't think I'm alone in believing that Scotland should phase out sectarian schools, and yet this issue is almost a taboo subject in the Scottish media. I don't think I'm alone in wanting a grown-up and genuine debate on sectarianism rather than a kiddy-on, one sided discussion where sports hacks with Celtic scarves lead the charge. Let's have a debate on the subject of sectarianism that is worthy and wide-ranging - just for a change. I don't think I'm alone, however, when I suspect that this is the last thing many 'anti-sectarian' campaigners want. One really has to wonder - why are 'anti-sectarian' crusaders running scared of a full public debate - on sectarianism? Borrowed from another forum

The guy is a BIGOT without any question,he will be outed for what he is

Brilliant from TBO today,and again the HULLO HULLO la la la la la,funny as fuck and a total piss take:thup:

No chance Zappa,he fancied the 3-0:p

I have to say Johnny,your draught lager is excellent:thup:,we will need to come through for a day emptying your stock:grin:

And we have a winner,well done Gribz

His turn for which won the penalty was class. Ness got MOTM at the game!!!!

This is a BIG opportunity for Rangers FC to finaly grow a set and fight our detractors and steam in no holds barred,I'm just still not convinced it will happen,I hope I am wrong

http://leggoland2.blogspot.com/2011/04/some-strange-reporting.html

Depends on our driver as always mate:tongue:, but I'll have a word:drink:

UEFA blasted back at Martin Bain last night. Rangers face a huge fine and the prospect of playing Euro games behind closed doors in a row over sectarian singing among fans. Bain said he believes that a deliberate and targeted campaign against Gers is being waged. But UEFA slammed those suggestions and insisted the Ibrox club only has itself to blame. A UEFA spokesman told SunSport: "Rangers have been warned in the past but it is not necessarily even that, it is just fact. And now disciplinary proceedings have been opened in relation to these facts. "The past actions against Rangers will also be taken into account when the judgement is given. We have to define what is acceptable singing and what is not. "Rangers only have themselves to blame for these charges. If they are found guilty let's hope it doesn't happen again for the sake of sport." Gers have been told they face playing their first two Euro games of next season behind closed doors after reports of sectarian songs in the Europa League ties against PSV Eindhoven. Bain has 14 days in which to file his defence with a vital hearing in Nyon set for April 28. But UEFA, who confirmed for the first time that anti-racism group FARE filed the scathing report on Rangers fans, insists there is NO agenda against Gers. The spokesman added: "It is ridiculous to claim an anti-Rangers agenda exists within UEFA. "The reports were given to UEFA by FARE. This is an independent organisation and they were not commissioned by UEFA. The FARE organisation can pick up matches freely. "They have chosen these two matches and have given us this report. But there is also a report from the match delegate from the first leg which highlights discriminatory singing or chanting. "Our stance could not be any clearer. We are against all forms of discrimination and will fight it on and off the pitch." FARE executive director Piara Powar stressed he also has no axe to grind with Rangers. Powar said: "The reports were gathered as part of an ongoing monitoring programme, in this case prompted by concerns at sectarian singing at previous Rangers matches in Europe. "There are explicit suggestions emanating from Rangers FC of 'a deliberate and targeted campaign against the club'. "The FARE network is focused only on our core mission of tackling discrimination in football and encouraging social inclusion through the game. We have no axe to grind with any club." Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3530480/Dont-blame-us-Bain.html#ixzz1JdTrUsO4

Aye,I know mate,I'm just spouting off again

Correct BD,he was speaking for BHEAST FC

Regan has been planted there by the BHEASTS for a reason

cameras and videos at the ready for the next BHEAST game and flood FARE,UEFA,SFA,SPL and any other chunt,mind you we shouldn't need it with the extra undercover polis that will infitrate the stand for that game.........................oh wait a minute it will be the Rangers fans that are inder scrutiny!!!!

There are so many BHEAST songs that offend me,will FARE take up my complaints???

a big huge can of worms??????:boogie: