Bill

Celtic has been punished by UEFA 15 times in the last 12 years and received a fine on each occasion. The includes pitch invasions and assaulting players on the pitch. But here's the thing ... anyone who either expects equal treatment or is surprised by the lack of it is operating in dreamland. All the protests and heel dragging in the world isn't going to change the world we have to live in. That's going to take something far smarter and innovative than I've heard today.

FARE isn't impartial, everyone already knows that but it is what it is. Accepting all the unfairness and all the cards that are stacked against us by some of the most devious bastards ever to draw breath, what would you propose we do? As I see it we have two choices. We can whine and complain, dig our heels in and pretend we have a moral right to do so, in which case the hammer will continue to fall on Rangers. Or we can find new words to new songs, new swords to wield and new causes to pursue, in which case we might just avoid some of the worst of their arrows. If the support was lined up before you and you had to tell them what to do, what would you say? And after you'd told them how unfair it all was, what then?

Much as the old days had much to commend them, this has to be the time to leave them behind and finally move on to a future that doesn't involve dragging that past behind us. We can still be a predominantly unionist and loyalist support if that's what floats your boat but how we express our common identity simply has to change. There can't be any more fucking of popes or chasing of feenyins. That's done. It's over. We damn nearly lost our club altogether a few years ago; this is a challenge that no one should be phased by.

This is ridiculous. How can there be votes for both Goldson and Katic? Surely one of them must have been shit ?

Wow! Seems all out of proportion to his worth but you have to trust the manager.

Absolutely right.

There's also a need to cover the likelihood/possibility of losing Morelos in January and having a backup striker already settled in the club.

Can there be anyone who didn't expect shit to fly from all directions if we looked like serious contenders. This won't be the last or the worst of it so it might be smart to cut out the very things we know will be used against us. That said, there's a fair chance that what we don't do will be invented anyway

Breaking .... on BBC Rangers say they have been ordered by Uefa to close part of Ibrox for Thursday's Europa League meeting with Legia Warsaw following "racist behaviour - which includes sectarian singing". A statement from Rangers reveals they must shut off "a section, or sections containing no fewer than 3000 seats".

??? Jack was doing it in the second half of last season. You just weren't quite ready to change your mind ???

How did Frankie phrase it again? ”Now, for the last time I'm going to ask people to consider the way they post on this forum when it comes to the ongoing political crap. It really is tiresome to log in to continuous trolling (on both sides) and if the standard of debate doesn't improve then some users will have their posting rights removed. I'd much prefer not to use such censorship on important subjects but if you act like children, then you'll be sent to the naughty step.” ?

I think we should be happy with our centre backs ... and those waiting in the wings for their chance. A couple of seasons ago we couldn’t defend a corner, now we look relatively solid and getting better all the time. I think be far the best thing we can do is to get off their backs and stop the needless criticism.

That’s really good. It should make choosing a POTY less prone to assessing only performances immediately before voting. The only thing missing is maybe to split the season into four quarters or two halves to see if certain players improve, get worse or maintain consistency. Although a bit of subjective fun, I’m sure some interesting trends will emerge in time. Thanks for making the effort - perhaps you should invite bids for the privilege of doing this after every game. ?

Having finally watched the whole game ... Ryan Jack for me. Davis, Flanagan, Katic and Greegs deserve a mention though and while our Captain isn't yet nearly back to his best he's finally showing some signs of getting there.

At this level everyone is capable of turning in a great performance but if I was the manager I'd be looking for players I can trust to do it on a routine basis and in my opinion that is what's marking out Jack at the moment.

That's a very good point and might have much to do with his emergence as a key player. I think when he first arrived he was trying (having) to do too much. The arrival of Kamara and Davis clearly allowed him to play his own game more.

Sadly, someone else will quickly be found to fill that role. Jack isn't the only success in our team but I felt it was evident from half way through last season that he was the real deal. Let's just hope he can keep up this level of performance.

Is this really necessary? Cant we just back both players? The stats tell us they are an effective centre back pairing and they'll only get better the more they play together. The presumption of perfection is such a pointless position to take - almost as bad as trying to play one of them off against the other. Tempted to say "get a life".

Agreed. Against much expectation Ryan Jack has turned out to be the jewel in our crown so far. Looking back, he was head and shoulders the best player at Aberdeen and I don't doubt he could hold his place pretty much anywhere he chooses to go in future. Thankfully someone saw what he had to offer and brought him to Rangers. The fact the Kittybrewster Kid is a Rangers fan doesn't do any harm either.

I have an unlimited subscription that is supposed to allow me universal access to watch live games. I pay good money for it, in advance. What I expect, not unreasonably, is to be able to access that service when I want. Also, as I've said in an email to RTV, if there is a delay to my flight the airline sends me a text to tell me so - why can't Rangers do the same, instead of hoping I happen to be looking at Twitter at the time. In any case, the problem wasn't just logging in to RTV. I couldn't access the Rangers.co.uk website until three quarters of the way through the match. This isn't a customer problem. It's a problem for RTV to sort out once and for all. Either crawl cap in hand to the BBC or make the investment necessary to deliver the service they offer and accept money for.

Didn’t know about that.

You're right - I did. ?

I eventually got on the Rangers.co.uk site with 23 minutes to go. No problems then logging on to RTV and the game quality was perfect. Bit of a bloody mess though and it needs seeing too.

Only saw the last 23 minutes but it was clear how much this side is growing up.

Morelos did little wrong and his reaction to the booking was exemplary. Nothing to worry about.