chilledbear

The guys PR is absolutely brilliant. Can you imagine any of the Scottish Businessmen who have been mentioned, doing this kind of thing. I still have doubts, but I'm enjoying his pizzazz.

I hope Rangers got the best deal possible. Worries me that we were negotiating with someone Green wanted as an investor.

Post on FF that the deal has been done, and should be announced at the weekend.

Very good reads. It seems as long as Rangers are the victims, anything goes.

How did the game with Accies go, anybody?

BBC not changed their story yet.

They are disgraceful, the whole lot of them.

Wonder when BBC will change their story.

On the BBC Scotland Web Page Dundee United have confirmed that debts owed to the club from Rangers oldco have not yet been paid, contrary to claims from newco owner Charles Green. In a statement, United insist sums due from a Scottish Cup tie played at Ibrox last season remain unpaid and say the matter now rests with the Scottish football authorities. BBC Scotland has also learned Rapid Vienna are still owed for the sale of Nikica Jelavic, although the the next payment to the Austrian club is not due until the end of August. Continue reading the main story â?? Rangers do not owe other Scottish clubs a penny â? Charles Green on Monday Rangers oldco went into administration in February and filed for insolvency in July due to unpaid debts. A consortium, Sevco (Scotland) Ltd., led by businessman Green purchased the former company's assets and changed its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. The newco was granted a transfer of the oldco's Scottish Football Association licence with one of the conditions of membership being the payment of all football debts. On Monday, Green claimed all debts to Scottish clubs incurred by the company that formerly ran Rangers had been settled. The Ibrox chief executive told the Rangers website: "As of now, Rangers do not owe other Scottish clubs a penny." Domestically, Rangers owed: Hearts (£800,000), Dunfermline Athletic (£83,370), Celtic (£40,337) and Inverness Caledonian Thistle (£39,805). In a financial report produced by the oldco's administrators, Duff & Phelps, Dundee United were listed as being owed £65,981, however BBC Scotland has learned the amount is believed to be closer to £30,000. English clubs are also owed more than £700,000. This breaks down as: Manchester City (£328,248), Chelsea (£238,345) and Arsenal (£136,560). European clubs are also owed more than £1.6m, including Rapid Vienna (£1,011,763), St Etienne (£252,212), Palermo (£205,513) and Orebro (£150,000). On STV Site STV has obtained the wording of a letter believed to have been sent by the Scottish Premier League to Rangers on May 18, 2012. In the correspondence, the SPL agrees to meet a debt owed by Rangers to Dundee United, totaling just over £31,000, taken from competition money due to the Ibrox club for finishing second in the league in the 2011/12 season. The letter, from SPL secretary Iain Blair, read: "The Board of the Scottish Premier League Ltd considered the application by Dundee United that the outstanding sum due by Rangers to Dundee United of £31,031.20 be offset against the next sums due to Rangers by SPL Ltd, with the offset sum being paid to Dundee United. "The board decided to accede the application to Dundee United and accordingly the sum will be withheld from the next sum payable by the SPL Ltd to Rangers, and the sum will be paid by the SPL Ltd to Dundee United.

Aye, folk are going to pay that kind of money out, just to say 'up you'.

Any football manager will spend if given the go ahead, whether it is affordable or not. Ally will be the same if allowed. I hope Green keeps a tight reign.

Don't mention TBK or John Brown.

He was an inspiration on the field, let's remember him that way. Not all our heroes are as we would like them. I remember him at our Supporters 'do', back in the early seventies, he wasn't the cheeriest of fellows back then.

Between a rock and a hard place. I don't like the football, and not sure Ally can change. But then he certainly deserves his spell as manager. Just hope it doesn't end in tears.

I don't think they all played in the same team. The ones who played included Adams, Durie, Cole, Ness and Wilson. I still say getting picked for the under 16s side is no recipe for success. Having said that it doesn't mean I don't agree with your verdict on Sinclair.

If he is mates with Ally, I don't see there will be any changes. They also will point to Ness, McCabe, McKay McLeod. The buying youngsters and then letting them go is a worry, but being picked for the Scotland under 16s doesn't mean an awful lot. Remember Rangers had 5/6 playing in the team, only Ness came through.

We will be used by Ashley/Newcastle, and not in the long run for the benefit of Rangers. Ashley will have 10% of Rangers, compared with being in overall control of Newcastle. It is obvious which Club will get the better deal. Hopefully this is just a rumour from the BBC.

Surely we have to bring on our own. How would playing young players from Newcastle benefit Rangers? We are Rangers, not a feeder Club.

Looks to me, we are going to be used as a Newcastle reserve team.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/green-deal-could-bring-in-10m-to-club.18556750 RANGERS chief executive Charles Green yesterday revealed his hopes of bringing between £5 million and £10m a year into the club through a proposed merchandising joint venture with billionaire Mike Ashley's Sports Direct retail chain. And engineering entrepreneur Jim McColl, who with former Rangers manager Walter Smith was part of a rival consortium aiming to buy Rangers, last night told The Herald of his respect for Mr Green's achievements and paid tribute to his former rival's "tenacity". Mr McColl had, in June, asked Mr Green to walk away from the club. The Herald revealed on Wednesday Mr Ashley was in advanced talks with Mr Green about buying a stake of up to 10% in Rangers and forming a joint venture to sell its replica kit through his Sports Direct stores. Mr Green confirmed the talks with Newcastle United owner Mr Ashley yesterday. He also claimed Rangers could end up with three billionaire investors, but said it would be too premature to reveal the identities of the other two because he was still in talks with them. Mr Green's target of bringing £5m to £10m a year into Rangers by harnessing the might of Sports Direct, which has a stock market worth of about £1.7 billion, underlines the joint-venture nature of the merchandising agreement he is trying to conclude with Mr Ashley. This would be a very different deal from that lined up by Rangers with JJB Sports in 2006, under Sir David Murray's ownership. That deal gave JJB Sports the rights to sell Rangers merchandise. In return, JJB paid Rangers an initial £18m, and £3m a year over the 10-year contract. Sources have indicated a belief this deal with JJB would have lapsed with Rangers' collapse into liquidation. Mr Green led a consortium which purchased the club's assets from liquidation for £5.5m in June. JJB Sports has confirmed it has a merchandising agreement with the new owners of Rangers, but has declined to elaborate on the terms. Mr Green said: "I don't think Mike needs to throw [money at Rangers] and that is not the model that I think is sustainable for any football club. "What Mike will do, subject to all the agreements going through, is bring the might of Sports Direct and that in itself, in my mind, will bring between £5m and £10m a year from merchandising revenues back into the club. "That is far, far more worthwhile than Mike individually signing a cheque. It is about sustainability. It is about continuing revenues. It is about developing the brand and doing it worldwide." Asked by The Herald if he had had any talks with Mr Green about buying a stake in Rangers, Mr McColl, one of Scotland's richest men, replied: "I am not one of the guys there just now." However, declaring he was watching with interest, Mr McColl added: "I think it is a great opportunity for Rangers to build on their youth programme, and I think we will come out of it stronger. "I have got to take my hat off to Green. He has been quite tenacious and he has managed to get it where it can now be built on. The fans have really got to get behind what he is doing there just now."

If true, it's a bit worrying about Ally and Green.

Mark Benstead ‏@markbenstead #Rangers - Alex McLeish says stripping of titles a non starter. EBTs - had lawyers look at the contracts at time - no cloak&dagger stuff.

Never discount anything in this Saga.

Amazing how the same people keep reappearing.

http://t.co/wH309ncA What is interesting is that the investigation has been re-launched. Why it has been re-launched is anyoneâ??s guess, but it is absolutely clear that the SPL intend to strip these trophies. Furthermore, the man responsible for choking Rangers finances, and effectively ensuring his own transfer embargo on Rangers while being Lloyds bankâ??s top man in Scotland, is now working for the self-same lawyers Harper MacLeod. Manus Fullerton, who was a founder member of the Celtic Trust, alongside arch Republican Jeanette Findlay and house breaker Alex Mosson, once had full access to Rangers finances, and strangled the cash flow of the club. He now consults for Celticâ??s lawyers Harper MacLeod, despite not being a lawyer. I think itâ??s fair to ask if Fullerton was head-hunted by MacLeod, why and when, and if he is working on, or has worked on the Rangers case. If there is any sniff that Fullerton has breached the confidentiality of his former client he and Macleod should be sued In any case, there is a clear conflict of interests for both the firm, and Fullerton. Rangers, and Charles Green have a clear case to ask for the case to be scrapped in its current guise. This is potentially more than a conflict of interests. It could be a pre-determined strategy to strip Rangers of titles, by corrupt individuals that should not be allowed to utter the words â??Sporting Integrityâ? ever again. Letâ??s be clear, the only beneficiaries to Rangers being stripped of titles are our enemies across the city. This war to keep our history is NOT over, and we Rangers fans need to ensure that the agenda to damage our club is fought at every turn, by whatever means at our disposal. This is one fight we cannot lose.