forlanssister 3,050 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Article on Frank Lampard in Saturday's Times. Reminiscent of the Cantona and the Manchester United Youngsters (Beckham,Scholes,Giggs, the Nevilles et al) story. Unfortunately it's not available online so excuse any typos! It is a wet and windy afternoon in the mid 1990s and, at West Ham United's training ground the apprentices are packing up to go home. All except one. For Frank Lampard jr, as he is known at this time of his life, afternoons are for extra running sessions. And wet afternoons are even better since they allow him to extend his repertoire by slide-tackling an imaginary opponent. Lampards team-mates emerge from the changing room, dressed for the weather, and laugh out loud. one of them a much-heralded Scotland schoolboy player named Martyn Mullen, looks at him in disbelief and asks "What the f*** are you doing?" Lampard hesitates, stops and then, self-consciously, resumes--totally convinced that what he is doing is right, but embarrassed at being caught in the act. Lampard was 17 years old at the time. He and Mullen were equals. In fact, he regarded Mullen as his superior, much as he did Rio Ferdindand and Lee Hodges, let alone that precocious 14-year old called Joe Cole. He coveted their skills and envied their phtsiques. If he was to become their equal, let alone surpass them, it could only be through hard work. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggy dewhurst 0 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 i will not advocate in replacing mccoist ,but has any body any suggestions or who would you like to see assisting ally in coaching and training . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascender 352 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's a telling comment though when there's always been rumours about the quality and amount of fitness-specific training that's done by us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuznetsov 0 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 i will not advocate in replacing mccoist ,but has any body any suggestions or who would you like to see assisting ally in coaching and training . we need a clear out, a complete clear out of them all. like what happened to our club, rip it up and start again but keep the history and memories of their iconic status's at the club! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amms 0 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Jock Wallace that had his team training at Gullane?How many of the present lot could manage that? The Gullane 'Murder Hill' work was totally psychological, it was never about fitness and all about mentality and believing you were fitter than the opposition. Wallace was a far, far shrewder man-manager than he is ever given credit for and Gullane Sands was his masterpiece in mental warfare. There is a fascinating interview with Gary Linekar where he talks about Wallace, it's worth trying to find he gives a very different impression of the man than many still hold. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 The Gullane 'Murder Hill' work was totally psychological, it was never about fitness and all about mentality and believing you were fitter than the opposition. Wallace was a far, far shrewder man-manager than he is ever given credit for and Gullane Sands was his masterpiece in mental warfare. There is a fascinating interview with Gary Linekar where he talks about Wallace, it's worth trying to find he gives a very different impression of the man than many still hold. I isnt this is it ? My first manager at Leicester City, Jock Wallace, was old school. At half-time on my reserve team debut, he picked me up by the scruff of the neck and threw me against the dressing-room wall. Scroll down for more It wouldn't happen now: Gary Lineker was thrown up against a wall For a dreadful moment, I thought he was going to try to hang me on one of the pegs, even though I'd scored a couple of goals. I ended up having a good relationship with Jock, who tried to explain to me his methods were a safeguard against success going to my head. But I was also intimidated by him. On one occasion, he picked me for an FA Cup tie against non-League Harlow. More from Daily Mail Comment... DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Put children before the porn peddlers 27/08/12. DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Spending cuts, taxes and broken promises26/08/12. A pygmy political class still in denial over euro24/08/12. DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Stop the vile images that warp young minds23/08/12. Heavy cost of bringing Asil Nadir to justice22/08/12. MAIL COMMENT: It's time to ignite the bonfire of the quangos21/08/12. Ending the scandal of £1m council houses20/08/12. DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Honours are about more than winning19/08/12. MAIL COMMENT: Making the case for democracy in Europe17/08/12. VIEW FULL ARCHIVE. I was ill but didn't have the nerve to tell him. So I went out there, played hopelessly, we were beaten 1-0 and I ended up being diagnosed with acute tonsilitis. Managers in those days were imposing figures. They relied on a mixture of fear and respect, with fear making up a big proportion. It meant a lot of swearing, ranting and raving and the odd cup of tea hurled against the wall. I never saw a manager strike a player, but I heard a few stories from contemporaries about it happening elsewhere. Of course, the behaviour of managers has come into the spotlight in the last week with alleged bust-ups at Stoke City and QPR. I don't think that management style works today, not just in football but in most industries. Times and attitudes have changed. I've even noticed how television studios have become calmer places in the last 10 years. Old-timers tell me it wasn't uncommon for producers and presenters to have huge slanging matches at one time. It's the same in football. I don't know what happened with Tony Pulis and Jim Magilton, but in general I don't think the manager getting physical or losing control works with the modern player. It's why the clever managers, the successful managers, don't rant and rave as much as they used to. Sir Alex Ferguson was famous at one time for his 'hairdryer' at Manchester United, but even he has adapted. He wouldn't be as fearsome today with some of the well-paid overseas signings as he was when he arrived at Old Trafford consumed by trying to 'knock Liverpool off their perch'. Modern management is about getting the best out of people. Some players will need the occasional ticking off and passions can run high immediately after games, but the vast majority will respond best to encouragement and a proper explanation of where they might need to improve. No player goes on to the pitch not wanting to do well. Some might play badly but they will all care. If a manager screams at a player, there is a risk the player will think he is hard done by. Looking from afar, there seems to have been a breakdown between Magilton, who is currently suspended at QPR, and the club's star player Akos Buzsaky and it could have started like that. I didn't respond well to anyone shouting at me for no apparent reason. I thought it was a waste of time. In fact, people might be surprised to learn it was more likely for me to have a go at a manager than the other way round. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1235361/GARY-LINEKER-One-manager-got-neck-threw-dressing-room-wall.html#ixzz24rPztvw7 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Probably wasnt, sorry amms 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Now that I am on the google buzz.... Leicester City's players return to pre-season training today but what they are about to go through will be very different from what the players endured during legendary figure Jock Wallace's days as manager. The Scot was renowned for his gruelling fitness regimes, as these Mercury photos from the summer of 1978 demonstrate. City players queue up, back in 1978, for their turn running up the sand hill, where boss Jock Wallace was waiting, at Wanlip Quarry • • • .. Wallace's training methods were based on his military training with the King's Own Scottish Borderers before he came into football management. Those training methods had worked wonders at Rangers, which led them to two domestic trebles before his arrival at City, in 1978. So his first pre-season training saw the entire squad, including Gary Lineker, Steve Kember, Steve Sims and goalkeeper Mark Wallington, running up and down the steep sand and gravel banks of Wanlip quarry, near Birstall, as they prepared for their Division Two campaign. It is very different to the approach being adopted at City today. Under manager Nigel Pearson, the players will use the latest sports science technology and training techniques to get them in the best possible shape. But former City striker, Alan Young, remembers the Wallace approach. In fact, he admits he will never forget his experiences under his tough fellow countryman for pre-season training with City. "I never actually went to Wanlip, but I do remember going to Scotland one year to a place at Gullane – and there were massive sand dunes there," said Young. "They were like mountains and we had a couple of days up there, and it was the hardest physical training I have ever had to do in my life. "Everyone was physically sick and some were passing out. It is hard to describe it. "But I remember a few of the lads had been to Wanlip and they said they wished they could go back to the quarry at Wanlip – it was that bad at Gullane. "I have seen footage of the Wanlip training and some of the players were interviewed afterwards. "At Gullane, no-one was doing interviews because they couldn't talk, or walk, afterwards. "Jock was famous for the fitness training. It was always very hard. "He used to take Rangers to Gullane and they won several Scottish titles, so it worked. "You wanted to do it, you wanted to be the best and he instilled that in you. "If he wanted you to go that extra two or three yards, you always did. "He was such a massive influence. He sold the club to me and you had an instant respect for him. "He did not have to earn respect, he oozed charisma." 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wasp 0 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 He has a no business commenting on anything to do with RFC. No? anyway I'm glad he did,it only confirms what a lot of Bears have been thinking since Ally and his two buddies took over. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 No? anyway I'm glad he did,it only confirms what a lot of Bears have been thinking since Ally and his two buddies took over. For once I'll stick up for Ally well sort of, this finished by Lunch has been going for years at Auchenhowie and before. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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