Super Cooper 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Easier to score 40 odd goals for QOTS than it is for Rangers You dont' seriously believe that Rab? We have been told by every coach, manager and media pundit in the land for the last 20 years this striker and that striker would score more goals if they moved to one of the old firm because they have better players and create more chances than every other team. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Not that I think Clarke looks anything like a long term Ranger, but it should be noted that despite what Internet people say, teams park the bus against Rangers. They didn't against QOTS, so there is that excuse, should he wish to use it 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Easier to score for QotS than it is for Rangers in the 3rd tier? If everything was being done right id say the opposite. Nobody said it was easier to score for QotS and a look at the scoring charts and it obviously isn't. But that doesn't mean it's easy to score 40 in a season for Rangers. If that were the case we'd have about four players with 160 goals between them every year plus the same again from the rest of the squad, meaning we'd be winning every game with about 8 goals. However, every time people talk about QotS, they seem to extrapolate a one off excellent season as something they always do. It's like seeing someone throw a double six once with two dice and then complaining when someone else can't do the same every time. As an aside, people will also forget that Clark doesn't take the penalties. Big Jig is a defender and has scored more goals than the QotS top scorer this season - what does that say about the ease of scoring for QotS? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I think some people are underestimating what a change in manager and personnel can do for a team. It has clearly affected QoS. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Can I just point out that the top three scorers at Rangers have scored a combine 33 goals, whereas their counterparts at QotS have scored 17. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I think some people are underestimating what a change in manager and personnel can do for a team. It has clearly affected QoS. So you're basically saying that QotS's last season was a one season wonder due to the Allan Johnson? If that's the case we have little evidence for comparison for anything. We don't even know if the manager or the team were just lucky, even in the sense of everything just came together for a season. Kilrmarnock don't seem to be much better from normal as of yet. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 So you're basically saying that QotS's last season was a one season wonder due to the Allan Johnson? If that's the case we have little evidence for comparison for anything. We don't even know if the manager or the team were just lucky, even in the sense of everything just came together for a season. Kilrmarnock don't seem to be much better from normal as of yet. Not solely down to Magic as his time with Killie is proving but like you suggest more likely a culmination of factors, luck being a key one. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Can I just point out that the top three scorers at Rangers have scored a combine 33 goals, whereas their counterparts at QotS have scored 17. QotS are playing in a higher league. Cant compare. How much had they scored this time last year? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Cooper 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 QotS are playing in a higher league. Cant compare. How much had they scored this time last year? Not nearly as much as us surely. We were averaging 4 a game at one point. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 They scored 92 last season. Halfway through this season we were on 65 which extrapolated makes 130. They also drew 5 and lost 2 games, extrapolating ours would be drawing 2 games and losing 0. It is difficult to compare a team in a different league but if you take that seriously then QotS become something you can't compare to start with. They spent one season in the third tier and so there is no ongoing examples. There is just no evidence that Queen's season was more than a purple patch or luck. Teams that are relegated have a unique advantage of often having the best and most expensive squad in the league who are used to playing together at a level above and sometimes that just works out for them in spades. But the thrust of the thread here is that if guy doesn't repeat his one best season with another club, then something must be wrong. That just ignores the randomness of everything that is usually acknowledged even by common sense. Most people have had say the round of golf of their life, but few go round blaming other people if they don't repeat this in the next round - or ever. There are a multitude of factors and randomness is just one of them. Playing every game and taking the penalties is pretty significant, as well as fitting into a new team, form, confidence etc, etc, etc. And do you really want most of the goals to come from one player? What if he gets injured (Negri anyone)? Surely it is far healthier for a team to have the goals coming from a spread of players, especially when you are scoring 40% more goals overall. It also suggests a different style of play. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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