simplythebest 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 He didn't sell us because he sacrificed us in the full knowledge of who and what Craig Whyte was, a far more heinous crime than merely selling us. David Murray's part in our predicament can never be over stated. Spot on, completely 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Murray was bad this lot are far far worse. Whether true or not it's irrelevant to judging Murray 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan99 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Whether true or not it's irrelevant to judging Murray It's not irrelevant if people are still blaming Murray for what's happened since. There was a risk no matter who he handed over to. The people that arrived since make Murray look like a saint. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's not irrelevant if people are still blaming Murray for what's happened since. There was a risk no matter who he handed over to. The people that arrived since make Murray look like a saint.Handing over to Whyte was slightly more risky than most possibilities. It's not as if this all happened overnight it's been a chain of reactions starting with the Murray mismanagement. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Say what you like about Murray but if you gave him 20 quid for a ticket he spent it on players. He didn't divvy it up among his mates then try to get the players to take a pay cut. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Say what you like about Murray but if you gave him 20 quid for a ticket he spent it on players. He didn't divvy it up among his mates then try to get the players to take a pay cut. On players we could barely afford if at all. He made plenty of money from Rangers through his other companies 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan99 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Handing over to Whyte was slightly more risky than most possibilities. It's not as if this all happened overnight it's been a chain of reactions starting with the Murray mismanagement. Show me a Scottish football club that isn't/hasn't been mismanaged. The major issue (the big tax case/bank) was mainly outwith his control. Our debt was serviceable, Lloyds thought otherwise due to a possible massive tax bill. So unless you're blaming him for a tax avoidance scheme, that was legal at the time, and proved to be used legally, I don't see the big evil he committed. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Show me a Scottish football club that isn't/hasn't been mismanaged. The major issue (the big tax case/bank) was mainly outwith his control. Our debt was serviceable, Lloyds thought otherwise due to a possible massive tax bill. So unless you're blaming him for a tax avoidance scheme, that was legal at the time, and proved to be used legally, I don't see the big evil he committed. I blame him for a bank taking control of the us. If it was all normal why were Lloyds not in charge at more football clubs? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,050 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Show me a Scottish football club that isn't/hasn't been mismanaged. The major issue (the big tax case/bank) was mainly outwith his control. Our debt was serviceable, Lloyds thought otherwise due to a possible massive tax bill. So unless you're blaming him for a tax avoidance scheme, that was legal at the time, and proved to be used legally, I don't see the big evil he committed. Handing over RFC plc to be liquidated isn't a big evil? Seriously? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan99 0 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I blame him for a bank taking control of the us. If it was all normal why were Lloyds not in charge at more football clubs? For some unknown reason, HMRC decided to use us as the test case, before they went after bigger fish. This is why Lloyds had the urgency to get their dough back. Whyte didn't get us for pound. Lloyds got their money, just like banks always do in the end. That's how I saw it. Blame it all on Murray if it helps you sleep at night. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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