ian1964 10,411 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 ...after the myths of Hampden shame game. HIBS blogger Jamie Montgomery says half of Edinburgh is still partying after May's historic cup win and reckons there is plenty of blame to go around. DON'T even think of telling a Hibs fan that it's now time to stop basking in our Scottish Cup glory. Not a chance. This moment will never get boring for us. A new season may be about to start but we are still partying down Leith way, we've had to wait 114 years after all. That said, a new season now looms large and the serious business of getting out of this division is a priority. The fans are coming back in their numbers and are brimming with confidence and a new-found belief in our club under the leadership of Neil Lennon. The only disappointment is that the mad ginger one will miss at least the first game in Europe next year when we win the cup again (that was partly in jest for all the humourless social media trolls out there). I'll try not to crack on about our famous win too much in these blogs, but one thing that does need to be put to bed is the bull being touted about the so-called Hampden riot. A bunch of belters on both sides had a bit of fisty-cuffs. Not pleasant, not clever, and not what the vast majority of fans in the stadium came to see or would have taken part in. It certainly wasn't the biggest story of the day either. If we are being told to hush-up about our historic Scottish Cup win, then it's only fair that everyone else stops bleating on about the myths surrounding the aftermath of the final. I'll give the Ibrox PR machine it's due - it certainly knows how to spin, with Jim Traynor the doctor-in-chief. If you ever listened to Traynor's phone-in when he was on the Beeb, you'll know that arrogance and controversy were his stock in trade. One thing his communications team's erroneous reporting did do was deflect attention from just how bitter they were at losing the final. There was scant mention until much later of their own fans' involvement in violence either - goaded or not. I mean you only have to look at the embarrassing statement the club put out afterwards to gauge the mentality of those punting out this kind of incendiary information. Several players promptly denied being attacked and said they had no contact with police. The Hibs fans took to the pitch in celebration at the sheer disbelief that the dream had finally came true, but they shouldn't have. I don't blame them, but then I'm biased. And that still doesn't make what they did right. If it had stayed at that, we wouldn't have discussed it beyond Monday morning. But a collection of those fans decided gloating at Rangers was more fun than than celebrating with Hibs. I'll never understand that, but those fans who took it too far are being dealt with by the club with bans already in place and the security team looking to have further talks with fans involved. You would have to be a narrow-minded fool though to believe that the Rangers fans running on the pitch were doing it to protect players and club officials. Don't talk nonsense. The thugs saw an opportunity to vent their hatred and took it. The toing and froing on this issue on social media in particular has run its course. There are unsavoury elements associated with both supports and neither set of fans involved in the punch-ups did their clubs or fellow supporters any favours. Meanwhile, the rest of us looked on in mild disbelief. Mild, because it was inevitable that this would happen between two clubs whose supporters don't see eye-to-eye. Mild, because the security arrangements were a shambolic embarrassment. The SFA and Police Scotland seem to have escaped the worst of the criticism so far, which is beyond me. They have been quick to attach blame, but I can't think of another high-profile match I've been to which was so badly policed by the force or security staff. Everyone needs to take their medicine on this one and move on. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibernian-record-fc-theres-plenty-8559910#lHblVx0X1AuQMEjf.99 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,150 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Sweep sweep. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,411 Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 Sweep sweep. To be fair, the sweep sweep started the night of the cup final 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,410 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Spin masquerading as a critique of spin. I am surprised that a national daily newspaper publishes such propaganda. No, I'm not. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,245 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 In a year'stime, it were Rangers supporters swarming the pitch and causing the Hibs folk to charge after them. Alas, we do not live in the Middle Ages any longer, the web does not forget, and the Daily Record, who let the above go, where one of those papers having live footage about the carnage wrought by the Hibs casuals on their own website. Much of the above is bold faced denial any lying. I like the song bit ... Watch as Hibs fans goad Rangers support on Hampden pitch before Gers supporters respond by belting out banned song Video: Scottish Cup Final - Fans invade the pitch after the final whistle ... and there is live screening which is rather conclusive (starting 4 mins in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaYoq1RECU 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyk 158 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Shows how small a club they are if they are still celebrating a Scottish Cup win Horrible club with fans and manager to match........ 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 1,671 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) It's patently ludicrous. If no Rangers fans at all had stepped on to the pitch this would still have been a shameful incident requiring sanctions. I wont even bother dissecting the entire spiel but can instead just pull out a single small paragraph which demonstrates how vacuous the spiel is. Meanwhile, the rest of us looked on in mild disbelief. Mild, because it was inevitable that this would happen between two clubs whose supporters don't see eye-to-eye. Mild, because the security arrangements were a shambolic embarrassment. It was inevitable that their fans would illegally enter the pitch in the thousands? Inevitable that they would vandalise the stadium? Inevitable that they would assault the Rangers players and staff? Inevitable they would incite what ultimately amounted to a tiny percentage of the Rangers support to enter the pitch and all that inevitably means blame is equally apportioned? Again, it's a ludicrous spiel and again if ZERO Rangers fans had entered the pitch they would STILL have been there in the thousands committing vandalism and assault and if that can be claimed to be inevitable then he needs to take a good look at his own idiotic babble and grasp that he is basically admitting they 100% created this disaster and INEVITABLY must take the blame for it. That's the be all and end all of it. Edited August 4, 2016 by JFK-1 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Are all fans, players, managers, board members, supporters, and media supporters all absolute weirdos? There doesn't seem to be a normal, balanced, fair minded thinker among them. The fact this can be printed without an editorial comment of WTF is indicative. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,155 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 You can't give credit to the opinion of someone who doesn't know how to spell "fisticuffs". 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 1,671 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I don't think that babble even needs any editorial comment, it's so stupid it stands on it's own as absurdity no one needs to say a thing about and i'm glad they allowed him to expose this mentality. My own comment on it above is what should immediately occur to any rational person. Let's develop an analogy to illustrate how incredibly absurd it is. I'm a fan of some wee diddy club which wins a national trophy, a once in a lifetime event. That night i'm out in my local town centre celebrating. Let's say i'm filled with "exubrance" I leave the pub and decide to commit some "inevitable" and excusable vandalism in the town centre area. I move on from the vandalism and spot a player/official of the club my team played in the final. It's "inevitable" that I start swinging punches at him. From there I move on again and come across fans of that club. It's "inevitable" that i'm going to begin goading them with aggressive verbal and physical gestures then when I illicit a response well it's perfectly obvious that the vandalism, the assault of another teams staff and the goading of their support is not entirely to blame on me. Blame has to be apportioned for my behaviour. Right? You all get the rationale? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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