Gonzo79 13,671 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) If xenophobia is prevalent, why are Cardoso and Herrera (the compatriots of the two you mention) not getting stick? Fans and journalists will always criticise players. The former because we want to win every match 10-0 and the latter because they want to sell papers. Edited September 24, 2017 by Gonzo79 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,231 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Not saying Alves was at fault for goals just that he seems not to be what we expected. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gribz 743 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Sorry for starting this thread peeps. I was a little tipsy. But it still had some meaning. I think there is a something internal lacking at the moment, cant put my finger on it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 3,776 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I had hoped Alvez would get the team buy the scruff of the neck and instill a more siege-like mentality but that hasn't happened. I could say the same about Dorrans. Does this tell us more about Alves/Dorrans or your expectations? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,263 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks we should play two up front ? ( and Miller wouldn't be one of them) It would probably mean going to a 3-5-2 formation. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,384 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Am I the only one who thinks we should play two up front ? ( and Miller wouldn't be one of them) It would probably mean going to a 3-5-2 formation. Although it was Miller, we did play with two up front without a noticeable increase in goals -- I presume that's what you want it for? I'd like the option of us going to a back-three, but for now I think 4-2-3-1 is the way to go, as it suits the players we have, and we have several options in this formation. However, thinking about it, I would like to see Herrera and Morelos play together. I'm not sure how, though? I don't like 4-4-2 with two out-and-out strikers because we lose midfield control -- pretty much what happened when Pena came off against them. 3-5-2 would be a good option in that situation. Edited September 25, 2017 by Rousseau 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 A back three of Cardozo, Alves and Mcrorie with Tav and DJ in midfield along with Jack,Dorrans and Pena with Herrera and Morelos up front does sound decent? It's quite fluid too and could be changed to 4-2-3-1. Options I suppose?. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyharley 5 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 We've had 11 new bodies come in and not all of them were going to settle straight away. I'd be happy trying a back 3 for a few games. I'd go with Morelos up top with Windass just behind him. Go with it for a few games and see if we can pick up a few wins on the bounce. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc 2,473 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 In mitigation for Alves he really didn't have a break during the summer or a pre-season because of the Confederation's Cup and that will take a toll on any player especially one at the latter end of his career. Players who don't have a 'pre-season' often pick up little strains and can struggle for fitness later in the season. It's a concern I have for Moreloss too. He joined us straight from a summer season in Finland, I think that's one of the reasons he started the league flying but at the same time fatigue might be an issue for him in a few months time. It's something I imagine the management team are aware but he's currently un-droppable so I doubt he'll be getting a rest anytime soon. Does he play for the Columbian national side? Trips to South America during the season can be energy sapping too. As for 'where we're at' I think we're at the roughly the same place we were this time last season. I think tactically you can now see what the side is trying to do, something that I couldn't discern when PC took over, and the players understand their roles now. I don't think we bought particularly well over the summer, based on how much we spent, although I also accept it's too early judge. For the money we spent I think we could have bought more players of a similar if not better standard than we did. Our squad is shallow, as we saw on Saturday if we lose a couple of players we're throwing untried teenagers in and if Moreloss gets injured we're very short of goal scorers. I disagree about speed, we were a faster side last season, McKay, Waghorn and Holt were all quicker and only Moreloss brings real speed to the side. When our first choice defence is fit we're stronger there, middle of the park too, but wide areas are weaker and we've fewer options up front albeit our first choice centre-forward is better than anything we've had since Jelavic. We don't play as attractive a style of football this season for a similar return results wise. It might surprise some of you to know that I'm not convinced our manager, or this team, is capable of winning the league, this season or in a couple of season's time, and we'd be better off facing that now. I understand why others feel differently though. We've had an easier start to the league this season than last season but a similar set of results. I don't think Pedro is good at motivating players and the side lacks fight and character. Despite the new faces we still look leaderless on the field and that's a concern. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 we're a top 4 spl team that has no backbone pathetic return for the investment 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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