Blue Moon 1,118 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Actually, was it not the invasion of Belgium that triggered it? Poland put everyone on watch, but it was the move into Belgium and the Treaty of London (the famous "scrap of paper") that actually prompted action? Wrong war! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,764 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 First World War was started by a Serbian bloke shooting an Austrian Archduke. Then Germany, France, Russia and Britain all posturing unecessarily. Again, nothing to do with religion. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon 1,118 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) I totally agree that power and land play a huge role but I can't agree that the killing of millions of Jews had nothing to do with a religion. While not specifically Catholic or proteststant or Islam it was fuelled by Hitlers belief in an Aryon super race which you can also class as a sect or religion in the proper meaning of the word. A huge sect believing and forcing other people into his\their beliefs. It was racial, based on Social Darwinism and the superiority of some races over others. These ideas were popular with German Nationalists long before Hitler came along and developed his "Superiority of the Master race". Edited November 20, 2017 by Blue Moon 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Were not seriously trying to turn the second world war into a religios war. Surely. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 But Britain declaring war on Germany had nothing to do with religion. Same goes for America. Hitler wasn't particularly religious and from what I've read, his hatred for Jews was racial as much as it was religious. As I said at the start it is not per se a Catholic Protestant thing but religion is the belief in a super power and that is certainly what motivated Hitler and fuelled his hate of Jews and Bolsheviks. Hitler was what he wanted to be depending on who he was preaching to. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon 1,118 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 As adults we know when we've done something wrong, just ask Ruth Gilfillan. I think our priorities are all wrong when the burning matter of the day is to protect people from being offended, especially when one section of society (a minority one at that) defines which words or statements are deemed to be an offence. It is dreadful that people's livelihoods are affected by something they say. These so called hate laws are against freedom of speech. The laws were already there to protect people from being harmed by speech but to protect people from being offended is way too far. We should be discussing the virtues of liberalism, not making criminals of people who dare to express an opinion. There has to be a better way than this and I sincerely hope Ruth wins her case and a more appropriate solution is sought such as a warning. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,829 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Welcome to 21st century Republic if Scotland. Do you think that this would be the same if it was the other way round? There is a reason that there are so many prominent Catholics in high ranking positions. There is a reason that there has been no Protestant Lord Provost in Glasgow for decades, against all odds. Incorrect. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,764 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Couldn't agree more, Blue_Moon. Safe Spaces and the like should be scorned by anyone who wants to interact and learn. Sticks and stones... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuGers 477 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Incorrect. What’s incorrect? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,090 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No? Watch me. That's just the same as blaming mobile phones for 'upskirting'. Easy solution - ban mobile phones. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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