Tannochsidebear

Rangers 3 Thistle 1 FGS Holt

Garner can only play centrally. Waghorn can play wide but is nowhere near the same goal threat out there as he is centrally. It was my biggest gripe about Miller starting centrally with Waghorn wide, you are weakening your side in two positions to include certain players. Garner, to date, has been a massive disappointment. Does the manager keep faith with his £1.8M biggest signing and hope he comes good, perhaps dropping a few more points along the way, or bin him now, play Waghorn centrally and try to win games, thus admitting Garner doesn't fit into the side. I'm glad I don't have to make that call. And what does it say for Dodoo, who has become the forgotten man and another dud signing (to date)? If I had to make the call, I would keep faith with Garner for the Thistle game at least, given we have another 2 week break after this, and hope Waghorn can have a better game from wide and get into the box more. By all accounts if we can get Garner scoring and confident we should see a different player from his efforts to date, and a home game against another bottom 6 side is about as good a game as we could have picked for tomorrow. I can't see any changes from Sunday for tomorrow, if the same squad is available. I would drop Wilson and give Senderos a chance with Hill, play Nico with Halliday & Holt in midfield to allow Forrester to play wide with Barry rested as he looks as if he needs it. Wes Tav Hill Senderos Wallace Holt Halliday Nico Waghorn Garner Forrester

And the one guy who got slaughtered by the people overseeing the "independent " election got the fewest. It turned out to be the farce I expected, but there are some who have been elected that should not just concede to anything the club direct them towards. It remains to be seen if they can hold their nerve. Delighted for Joanne, one of the hardest working volunteer Bears I have ever met, and I know she will be a great asset for club1872. We wait to see if the board can have the tact to elect a properly independent chair, which will be vitally important going forward.

About time I got one of these, email sent!

Negatives; 2 points out of the last 12 2 wins in last 11 league games heavy defeat at the piggery 8 goals in 7 league games conceded 16 goals in 7 league games After 18% of league games, we are in the bottom half of the league. brought in 11 players and are mostly not better than what we had last year which wasnt good enough, only 2 of which get picked for yesterday failed to bring in good central defenders or goalscoring striker, which was on every single Rangers fan wishlist since last Christmas. Positives We beat the opponents on percentage of possession every week It's better to watch than Ally's team We are alive!

Was William Cowie not the guy in the second hustings that wanted EVERY decision/statement the board had to make given out to a vote amongst the whole membership? We dont need a board if that was the case! Not exactly the leadership I would hope for, he doesnt get my vote with nonsense like that. I give the guys & girls standing a great deal of credit as I know first-hand what a lot of work will be involved and the pressure from fans wanting you to go in 20 different directions all at one time. I am not sure a lot of them know what they are signing up for, and I am quite sure some are merely blazer-chasing. Some are fairly well qualified, some dont inspire me at all. The whole process however, from the rushed inception, hoovering up of RST/RF, numbers of board members, huge influence from the club, dirty politics behind it all, leaves me very cold indeed. As someone who has been wholly supportive of fans groups for as long as I can remember, an original member of the RST, paid up member of Rangers First, member of two RSC's including serving as secretary for 20 years, been to meetings of them all and the Association as well, this is the least positive I have been about things from a fan's perspective I think I have ever been. Club1872 has a lot to do if it is struggling to win over someone like me who has always been positive about fan groups involvement.

I would advise everyone to watch and listen to the last two minutes of Lee Wallace's presser - stirring stuff!

NO, I think if there are issues that relate purely to female Rangers supporters, (stewards body searches, toilets etc) then as a man our reps could listen to what the issues are, and act on them accordingly. They dont have to be women to be able to hear the problems and act on them.

You have picked me up wrong mate. I was in no way implying you have a problem with blacks or catholics, I was trying to say that in my view it is only the person standing that is of interest, not their background. I agree that a large enough proportion of our fanbase is female, but I disagree that they must therefore have female representation. Can a man not fairly represent women when talking about what we want as football fans for our club? Why can only a woman represent women? I absolutely detest discrimination of any sort, and that includes positive discrimination. That was the point I was making, sorry if it didnt come off that way.

Yes, I got it and done it all, it did go on quite some length and was clearly marketing material for a lot more than just Rangers. Of course it was fun going through all the celtic/aberdeen/motherwell are all bad for football and Rangers are great! The brand awareness was boring but simple enough to click. The matchday experiences (you might have given up before boabie!!) was interesting but was missing a few things I wanted on the list which are far more important to me than some of the things they listed. All in all it was a very thorough survey which I hope we see completed in huge numbers and the feedback taken on board. It at least shows the club are trying to engage in many different ways to get fans opinions.

So we get to the halfway stage of the season and every single away game has been shown live on TV. Not one Saturday afternoon at 3pm away league game. We have Wednesday nights, Friday nights, Saturday lunchtimes, Sunday lunchtimes, all sorts of times from 1200-1245 for lunchtime games, and 7.15-7.45 for evening games. All to ensure the other 10 clubs (outwith celtic who are similarly messed about) get an equal share of the paltry tv money. What about the travelling supporters? Does anyone care about the lifeblood of the game?

I dont care if any of them are female, male, white, black, or whatever, I want the best candidates for the job. As it happens I think at least one of the females would be a great board member and she gets my vote on her ability alone. I just dont get this numbers/ratios stuff. If all 7 were black catholic females but were all Rangers supporters and the best candidates, I would be delighted in the same way as if all 7 are white protestant males. They are all candidates, no more, no less.

If he included something in his statement that was untrue, then the people overseeing the election process should have asked him to prove the allegations made, or withdraw them from his statement PRIOR to them being released. I think his concerns about the amount that COULD go to pay for things that some may consider is the responsibility of the club is a very valid one that has been shared by some on here and elsewhere when discussions regarding C1872 are taking place. If it is left to the reader to believe if that could get to as high as half the contributions, they can make their own decision if this is possible or nonsense. That alone would be enough to ensure some dont vote that way. The fact they have allowed his statement to remain, and adding a caveat to it is clearly designed to taint the voting pool and smear the candidate. It is disgusting behaviour by whoever is running this election process. Then the candidate turns up for a hustings that all candidates have been asked to attend, and a video goes onto the C1872 website smearing him again for not advising them beforehand. There can be no doubt whatsoever that Mr Donohoe is not wanted by those unelected people who are running Club1872 at the moment and they are doing everything they can to ensure he is not elected. i'm sorry, but that stinks. Has C1872 researched every candidates CV and work history, or only the ones it doesnt want to win? I will be glad when this so-called election is over and the unelected current office-bearers (dont know who they are so nothing personal) are gone and the elected members can proceed with trying to build a name for Club 1872 that is worthy. The start Club 1872 has made on media affairs is good, but internally it has done little right to date. I desperately want it to work as we all know how badly we need it to work and the huge job it has just on challenging the media never mind anything else, so these guys and girls have a massive job to do and i can only hope they are left to get on with it without any outside influence.

If we can get it out of business, nobody needs to bother.

This is the very real point. Was she disciplined? Given an official written warning? Suspended, downgraded or sacked? I'm guessing none of the above, and that she simply got a "dont be so stupid next time you have a go at them". It makes the apology just as sincere as most of the articles they write in the paper.

Tims infiltrating the poll, clearly. However for all those that say they want to ban the Record, there are still far too many Rangers fans, or friends of Rangers fans, that keep this filth alive. It is not only your duty as a Rangers fan to not buy this, dont click on their website, dont phone in their hotline, etc, it is also your duty to educate anyone you know that still buys this paper. I personally have hounded many friends on their choice of paper, with some success and some failure - but I will keep working on those who "like it for the racing" or "i get it delivered and its too much hassle to cancel" or "it has a go at them too" or "the other papers are just the same" until every single person I know has stopped financing this bigoted publication.

Far too many have condemned Barton without knowing the facts. Let me say from the off that I didnt want to sign a convicted criminal and was really disappointed when it was announced. I dont watch English Championship football so the last I seen of Barton was his red card for QPR when Man City won the league on the last day of the season, and cant say I have ever been noticed him that much or been impressed with him on any occassion he has been playing in a game I watched. But now that he is our player, I wont get involved in slaughtering the guy for something we dont know muchabout. All we know is that there was no physical violence, merely verbals, but of a sufficient nature to warrant in the managers eye a 3 week suspension. We dont know what was said, if the punishment fits the crime, or how his team-mates feel about it. He may still have the support of his teammates, we just dont know. He didnt get the same pre-season as the rest of the squad, his criminal conviction ensuring he couldnt travel to the USA and had to remain training on his own. It is therefore no real surprise to see him seemingly not quite at the pace of the games we have played. He rightly points out that he got MOTM in our first game and some glowing tributes on here and elsewhere so it clearly hasnt all been bad. I wont lose any sleep if he has his contract terminated, and I will happily accept him back in the team if MW feels he can do the job he signed him to do, whatever that was.

Perhaps if the hooped horrors had given BT any other highlights to show they wouldnt have had to go over the one incident of note in an otherwise dreadful match (by all accounts, as I havent seen any of it)

Donohoe is a very interesting one. I certainly dont like the way those running this vote are smearing him at every opportunity with a disclaimer against him in the CV's list. That is very poor show. Let the Bears work out for themselves who they should vote for. That warning video on the Club1872 site when they allowed BD to be on the hustings was a disgrace IMO. The guy making the announcement slaughters BD when he should be impartial and independent. And he is running the vote I believe! And then for Club1872 to put this onto the website for all to see when it is entirely irrelevant but for to smear a candidate who they clearly dont want to win also grates me. I dont know BD personally, I have seen him at several fans meetings in the past few years though and would think he would, on the face of it, be a good board member for ensuring good governance, vitally important to this organisation. I am also very disappointed that this "election" has been heavily slanted from the get-go, just as I was advised weeks ago it would be. I know of one individual who sounded me out regarding an approach he had received by a club official to be on the board of Club1872 a few weeks ago before nominations were even open, and when asked about elections was told not to worry about it, the PR machine would sort that out (words to that effect). He politely declined after seeking advice from a few Bears who he trusts. This is very evident with some candidates getting great publicity and dark arts going against others. It adds to my concern that Club 1872 is going to be merely a club puppet rubber-stamping club decisions and getting the fans on board with things the club wants. I will therefore be voting for those I believe will have the gumption to stand up to this. This therefore might be a different voting list to if I thought this was going to be a truly independent organisation. Sadly, this brings my voting list to quite a short list. I am seriously considering stopping my 2 DD's for £18.72 & £11.25pm if I dont like how this turns out.

Sack him now!! Obviously i'm joking - although it amazes me that an incident that was portrayed as his wife being attacked by a tim has now turned full circle and he has been supposedly been arrested. Of course with it being front page news in The Sun, it must be true, but i'm sure I will be forgiven if I wait to see if charges are actually brought first before I worry too much about this nonsense.

Cant agree with that mate. I think selecting Halliday is far more to do with Barton, Rossiter & Crooks all being unavailable to start the game (assuming he wanted to bed Crooks in from the bench). The armband is a total irrelevance to someone like Warburton, as shown by giving it to Kiernan recently. He wants all players to stand up and be "captain", and I dont think he cares who plays toss-up at the start. He has never mentioned the captaincy as a big thing, its always about the team. Although Halliday has been much better in the last two games (no coincidence the two games Holt has played alongside him) I still cant see him being a regular feature this season. There are simply better players for his position than him.

And it is still wrong, as it was a Rangers fan (singular) and an Orangeman (singular) that were being hung. To ignore this vital distinction is to try to ignore the fact that this was a clearly religiously motivated, pre-meditated hate crime.

I would go for; Gilks Tav Senderos Hill Hodson Holt Crooks Windass OHalloran Garner Forrester And in the style of MW the subs would be Waghorn for OHalloran (60 mins), Dodoo for Forrester (60 mins) and Nico for Crooks (75 mins) I would be giving Wallace & McKay a rest as they both look jaded to me, and I want to see a central defensive partnership without the double trouble act of W&K that have had far too many chances and fluffed them all. It looks the right time to give Crooks his debut in his favoured holding slot (so im told - I thought he preferred CH ), and give MOH a start to see if he can do anything but run into trouble, i'm starting to doubt him so go and grab a shirt Michael and make it your own.

Were there only two media people there to ask questions? I recognised Mark Benstead (for Sky presumably) and a female whose voice i dont recognise. They were the only two asking questions. Perhaps this was just for tv media and there was a separate one for written press where the usual scumbags would have still got their press passes to come and ignore what MW says and twist his words to suit their agenda. Anyone know how this works at Auchenhowie these days?

It sounds like a huge over-reaction from the club to a dressing room bust-up, which was encouraged in the first place if MW was asking players to contribute their thoughts on what went wrong at the piggery. Maybe Barton told him his subs and tactics gave us no chance to even keep the score down and how Kiernan still earns a living as a pro defender is a mystery! If there was only verbals involved, as has been indicated, then i cannot see what could possibly be said in that environment that would result in this type of punishment. If it was a racist or homophobic remark (as some rumours have it) he would have been sacked on the spot, so it cant be that. I keep coming back to the only thing he could have done to merit this is have a real blasting go at the manager in front of all the others. With the Glasgow goldfish bowl as it is, I have heard around 15 different versions of what went on, all from "in-the-know" guys, with it ranging from a full blown physical barny, to handbags. I'm not sure we will ever know as we will eventually get two different versions from the two sides and the truth will be somewhere in the middle.