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The fact is we are where we are and nothing will or can change the past , whilst I agree with maineflyer in that until we get a full expanation on why the current RST board took the decisions they did especially with regards " the special tasks and disciplinary committee " we will forever hold the current incumbents with suspicion , well I will anyway . However nothing that anyone says on here will effect any change amongst the present RST board so best let sleeping dogs lie . More pertinant is how they conduct themselves in the present and the members such as UCB and oneamoruso help restore faith to a certain degree though I still do not fully understand where MD thinks he is going or if he expects to use the RST as a means to an end , only time will tell .

As much as I agree with your inital statement re truth and transparency I am afraid it will be smoke and mirrors , especially in the situation we find ourselves in at present . There is no way we will find anything of importance , in it's place we will get answer's hiding behind legal jargon to do with takeover panels etc . Still i will attend . hopefully since I lost my attendance card with an open mind and forever hopeful , I just hope we dont get the socks or big screen questions

NO not a game the AGM

Say for example some dimwit happened to misplace their attendance card for tomorrows wee shin dig , how in the name of god would i sorry he get in .

sorry cant get this at work , what was the jist of his comments

boss , why should you appologise , why when people are getting led by the nose should you appologise for a very decent resume of our next " king in the making's " business history , why when we dont have a media capable or is that interested in our future should you appologise for making a very well written point bringing into question someone who would ask 45,000 fans to hand over �£1000 each plus a membership fee , not that we dont want fan participation but at what cost . At least someone asked , so why appologise

As the final whistle sounds, many of us will be heading to our Christmas parties - the Rangers Media and RST dinners, on the same night, on the same street, at the same time. Let’s hope we have reason to celebrate and that we all have a ball. Big Fight Big Fight , can we see this on pay per view or have BBC Alba came in with a last minute bid Seriously boss your artice was excellent and certainly took the debate to another level , keep up the good work

it's spanner he's returned from the banished were doomed ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Calscot you may have missed the whole point of my post , in no way was I trying to compare apples with oranges , however the fans back then would not have settled for what we are witnessing now , we are basically in a two horse race every season back then you had Dundee Utd and Aberdeen giving us a doing , and we were nearly in as bad a way back then financially as we are now, I dont know how much a �£6 million debt in 84 equates to in today's money but it's a hell of a lot . Today we are so far infront of other teams it's beyond a joke , we regularily are 20 odd points in front of third place teams and that's when we are having a shit season , yet we are still no further forward when you compare us to ordinary european sides , I do take on board your point about the EPL making every one's view distorted but hey that's the world we live in

Welcome aboard mate , what you say is very true ,but there is also a great deal of apathy about Rangers supporters in general and that has been around since we were spoiled by Murray's first great ten years when everything was possible , NIAR delivered , players arrived and went at a great speed , we were indestructable , even european defeats were allowed in the great NIAR chase , a small few either Number 8 or the Gub wrote in the FF fanzine about the disaster that was about to happen and the majority myself included , oh how we laughed , who's laughing now. I remember the fans protesting against John Greig's teams and outside the stadium , eventually they let their feet do the talking and change happened though that was a different era , the majority fans of today will and have accepted what ever dross is put in front of them and they still return . The online community is very very small and in this community there is and are a small number with way too much of a high opinion of themselves , take your time , read the posts and make your own mind up , however do not be averse to new ideas or even polar opposites , there are many very very clever people on here . However I have one wish above all and that is one day soon we are all posting about the games and the players on the park and the politics are a long long memory

I think this sums up the thoughts and feelings of many maineflyer and the point you make about present RST board members is very succinct , it is very very easy to make constructive critiscism turn into a negative by focusing on personalities ,I see this every day in my organisation where bad managers make any suggestions or well critiscism's into attacks on them as it deflect's and dilutes the point . Management of all types , and Murray was a master of this in his early haydays , made people who critiscized him out to be negative and anti Rangers , and it certainly quietened a lot of journalists , bullshit baffles brains as they say. At present we have an RST board faced with , for possibly the only time , an opportunity to get what they want and we all want Fan ownership . Certain RST members have went further than others , however some are a wee bit more wise , as one quoted on a FF debate tonight , and I have included the whole post in case I am accused of selective posting , the highlighted part is the interesting it. Now I am not on here to stick up for anyone but the posters on here who constructively critiscize the RST board , IMHO are only saying what the poster above is saying and if god help us that happens we are really knackered , we need to stick together but when there is any critiscism from outside FF or even from long established posters the cry goes out , " they have a problem with the RST" , " they would prefer Rangers to fail rather than support us " instead of actually reading what is being posted or listening to the tone of the post . A prime example was Boss's expose of Duffy , now I am no business guru but my wife owns and runs a very successful small manufacturing company and is responsible for finance and though she's knows the square root of heehaw about football she is very savey about company accounts , when she read his article I asked her what her opinion was of Duffy , needless to say it was less than impressive bordering on him being a crook , her words not mine , now the point of this was , instead of reacting in a positive manner and answering these points , what transpired was a hatchet job of not only Boss but just about everyone else that happened to agree with the points raised . My head is totally done in after reading all the various posts from people much smarter than this average bear , but what I do know is we will live or die as a support over this issue , for it has the ability to either split us assunder or alternatively unite us into the support we should be that can drive this club forward to successes not even imaginable a few months ago , the people who sit on the assembly , association and RST must be made aware of their position and the need for their personnal ambitions to be put a side for the greater good . We have a wealth of knowledge out here in webland it should be utilised not derided .

It would be interesting to find out if there has been or even is an increase in RST members since this all started ,the amount of pro RST threads and posts on FF is amazing , just wondered if they were all talk and no action or if they actually felt strong enough to act on what they were hearing and reading

This was the reply from DavidRST when I asked about Duffy , Because his partners wish to remain anonymous doesn't mean we don't know who they are. Similarly, there seems to be an assumption that we didn't know the stuff in that article until we read it. Like I say, we aren't committing to anything or anybody yet. They may not have talked to Duffy but that isn't the inferrence I take from this answer , I might be totally wrong but there you go .

From what I can now gather certain editor's are feeling rather stupid and wondering if they have been duped , likewise wee Daryl is trying to buy himself time by stating " things will develop over the next few weeks " , that's the journalistic term for help I dont have a story but I dont want to look really stupid

We tried that with leGuen and the no money option , need I remind you how that ended up

There's going to be a few nose's out of place with this news , and what's that a wee empire starting to crumble

This is a very good point and one I am surprised our media chums haven't picked up on , you cannot compare what would happen now with the last share issue , as back then everyone had lost face with SDM and that's one reason in my opinion why the shareholders myself included didn't touch it

Morning UCB , good post especially about the inter message board mischief making but I suppose we will have to live with it such is the world we live in , however with regards to Duffy why if he was or is part of a consortium would he break cover the way he did , I would have expected a fully briefed plan ready to be laid out to the fans instead of the I will be releasing details later quote, and especially since he was aware that the NOTW were about to do a story on him , so who's benefit did this serve us or him,I wonder

The amount of flim flamming that is going on in the" Duffy no thanks "thread on FF is amazing , the amount of RST members that are contradicting themselves and contradicting what they said on barrybaldy's thread is amazing . On one hand Stevie Smithsays that he hasn't spoken to Duffy and that the news of the world story is bolloks , then DavidEdgar says " Because his partners wish to remain anonymous doesn't mean we don't know who they are. Similarly, there seems to be an assumption that we didn't know the stuff in that article until we read it." Only time will tell but there is far too much rubbish getting posted ,one thing is certain Duffy isn't the answer

A white knight has finally materialised to save Rangers. Jesus Christ, a prominent and much-worshipped figure at both Rangers and Celtic over many years, has opted to back the boys in blue. "I have lingered long over this decision, but my mind is made up. I cannot remain in the shadows while the Rangers are in need of divine intervention". "I shall save the club and give it to the people, the chosen ones; they who deserve better". The revelation came as a shock to Ibrox fans, but immediately some doubt was cast on Christ`s ability to beneficially intervene. "He has a criminal record", observed one Ibrox fan while another declared that his unruly appearance was not in keeping with the club`s strict dress code. "No way is the top man at Ibrox going to be accepted wearing a skirt and sandals", he opined. Christ`s favoured long-haired look did not endear itself either. "We don`t want a poof in charge", said one supporter who preferred to remain anonymous. Christ hasn`t been to Ibrox for some time, but he admitted to having looked down on the old place from time to time over the years and believes the club`s finest-ever servant was Tom Vallance. "They don`t make them like that any more", he declared. Asked about his feelings for Celtic, Jesus admitted that he was fond of them too. "Of course I love Celtic. Loving the enemy comes naturally to me". Christ has apparently been in talks with the RST for several weeks but both parties agreed to keep the meetings secret. "I`m really honoured to have met the RST people, said Jesus, "especially David Edgar". Asked what he could bring to the table, Jesus modestly replied, "I can walk on water and turn water into wine, but I`ll have my work cut out getting Walter to play an adventurous 4-4-2". With the press pack lapping up his every word, there was just one discordant note. "What about the bigotry"? Graham Spiers (the discredited journalist) (the discredited journalist), Scottish football`s self-appointed moral crusader was in the room. "You may continue to write about it", said Jesus, "and don`t hold back on the ******s". Radio Clyde`s Hugh Keevins followed up with his tuppence-worth. "The Celtic support will be unhappy that you`ve sided against them, Jesus". "They`ve still got the Pope", said Jesus, with a cheeky grin breaking out on his countenance, "and Glasgow City Council". "Do you have a message for Rangers supporters", asked the BBC`s Chick Young? "I do indeed, Chick", replied Christ. "Don`t vote Labour"! And with a swish of his kaftan, Christ rose to his feet and left the room with a song in his heart. "Sure it`s old ...

we are all in trouble now , Bono's calling for them to be reinstated , before you know it there will be a benefit concert for them

Sometimes I can just take solace from knowing that I am not alone in how I feel and that we will rise again , great post mate

Gersnet moderators in vegas strip club shocker I can see the headlines now , any pictures

So basically the quote about the �£100,000 for due diligence , could be bullshit , sorry ignore this point as it,s a bit stupid . The whole Duffy thing could be bullshit .

I have never known on any site someone who posts so much yet contributes so little , please tell me he will not be able to reappear , can we get the isp police to check it out