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Another great display from Arsenal particularly in the 2nd half. Keeps them in the title hunt with a game in hand but Liverpool are a mess away from home. To think many tipped them to win the league this season. They have went backwards fast. How the hell can Rafa not play Gerrard in centre midfield is mindblowing. The premiership shaping up really nice at the moment with Utd on fire and Chelsea with them and Arsenal coming good also. Man Utd v Chelsea a week on Sunday will be amazing then Chelsea v Arsenal a fortnight after that.

Just wondered why this was actually closed? It had the basis of a decent debate bar a few silly comments. I was looking forward to contributing to this topic with my views but then saw it had been locked. Im sure people can actually have a decent debate without being personal. BTW for the record I didnt realise Murray had so much support at the moment. My genuine thoughts (from afar) were the majority were not happy with things at the moment. But my thoughts there were probably influencied by reading this website. However, I dont blame Murray for whats happening on the pitch at the moment (to an extent). I think we have a group of players who havent gelled yet and a manager who needs more time to get things right. He also hasnt grasped the countries game yet. However! Had the clubs cash in the past been managed more appropriately then we might not be in the situation of running on a bosman budget. But then that kicks of a debate as to whether people would swap the WS and DA era's where we enjoyed great domestic success and a good few Euro nights. SL and Stan S put up the a fine list of problems that are OFF the park. Now this is a different matter altogether. IMO i find the Ticket Office the biggest farce. I couldnt believe it last time when I picked up tickets from a porta-cabin which was just dumped outside the West Govan Corner. That is embarressing. But change is expected in this world and that includes football. At the moment we are going through a era of change while our rivals are having the better campaigns. Its something we accept and get on with while showing our true support for the club and supporting them through thick and thin. We will be back!!! And TBH i dont think we are in that much of a crisis. If we can make 2nd place in the league and have a good UEFA cup run and add the SFA cup, that isnt bad for a side that is going through the mills at the moment. Stick in bears!!

Yes, the next best debate after 9/11, - smoking in public places!. Smokers possibly should have rooms etc to smoke but as long as it doesnt effect the non-smoker. The thing is we are not telling you not to smoke, but we are telling you's not to make us smoke!! Last time i was at Ibrox a few weeks back i went into the toilet in the East Enclosure and was engulfed in a cloud of smoke. Law is law and the law says no smoking in a public place. The police should be fining these people.

Did you's get a wee back hander for that?

But you tell us SHITE!!!! How many NON winners do you need

See Football room mate! But yeah absolutely but in our dreams i think!! Great player on his day and an England pick IMO ahead of Crouch and Co.

Great piece by Bomber and he hasnt said anything that hasnt been put on here. Interesting that he also says maybe try all 3 centre halfs!!! Does anyone think Le Guen will try this? Im a fan of 3-5-2 as everyone knows and reckon its worth a shout. Only problem is why add a 3rd dumpling when 2 is bad enough!

I kind of assumed they would be nonsense but i dont hear much over this end. I couldnt see PLG quitting without a fight although he has yet to show any fight, but I can see that changing. As for Walter, it would be a mistake as he is already a Gers legend but boy i wouldnt mind him and Archie Knox in the dressing room tomorrow just to install some asskicking before the game.

Ive been saying that someone will get a doing, Dunfermline are as bad a side as there is in the SPL. We may be playing poor stuff but the talent and team IS there to come out and give them a stuffing. C'MON THE BEARS 5-0!!!!

Should be pretty darn interesting

Great idea BTW Barry

Manager Paul Le Guen will leave Rangers of his own accord if results and performances do not improve by Christmas. (Daily Express) Rangers are considering a move to bring Scotland manager Walter Smith back to Ibrox if Paul Le Guen is sacked by Christmas. (The Sun) Im assuming both are nonsense as usual!!?

He is finding it difficult to get some form back after his injury, not sure if cardiff would be the best place for him, that league is tough! Get him to Ibrox please!!!

Dont walk down Harlem with a sign that says "I hate Niggers" - Sorry just watching Die Hard with a vengence and thats what Brucey Willis had to do!!!!

Hopefully we do get some targets in January. Id rather they come in then (even if they were cup-tied) so they could settle for the start of next season. We dont want a repeat of this season where we have to gel new players again.

The thought of Dunfermline at home wouldnt fill with me excitement anyway, however if i had a ticket id still be going. Who knows - we might even give Dunfermline a thumping!!!

I'll be picking a treble from these 5 selections, likely the ones in bold: Everton v Aston Villa - Draw 2/1 Man City v Newcastle - Draw 9/4 Leeds to beat Colchester 11/10 West Ham to win at Middlesboro 9/5 Dundee Utd to beat Kilmarnock 6/4

Glad someone can reply sensibly also and realise that I wasnt being anti BF and just asking the question I thought against Dundee Utd at Ibrox that that was the best id seen Rangers play in years despite the freak result. It really should have been 8-2 that day. Also agree in europe he is a different player and controls games properly!

I cant blame Murray for what we are witnessing on the pitch either at the moment unless he is entering the dressing room and telling them not to look interested on the pitch. They arent motivated, there is no desire or hunger, they look like they dont know each other and there is too much changes week in week out. Had we had Romanov in charge then id be thinking Le Guen isnt picking the team but i think Le Guen still needs time.

Yeah il go with that aswell. There should be someone in the back doing the motivating like Durrant though.

I would still say last year was the worst. Probably only because we played good stuff at the start of the season and its early in Le Guens time and I have a feeling he will get better. McLeish should have built himself a better foundation after 4 years but slipping down the way.

He was at Cardiff he might

BTW this is a prime example of why i put up the thread "Lets stick toegther". Because you get jokers like Harper who are thriving on a Rangers slump. They care more about this than there own team winning. Have you ever heard such nonsense - Will Rangers will the title again?? - Garbage! We'll be back to show them WATP.

He does sound about patronising but he is still trying his best to get a support motivated.

Post of the day! 3-5-2 Couldnt agree more, i think it would get us back to dominating games and it would keep 2 up top which would help Boyd out!