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I would still say last year was the worst. Probably only because we played good stuff at the start of the season and its early in Le Guens time and I have a feeling he will get better. McLeish should have built himself a better foundation after 4 years but slipping down the way.

He was at Cardiff he might

BTW this is a prime example of why i put up the thread "Lets stick toegther". Because you get jokers like Harper who are thriving on a Rangers slump. They care more about this than there own team winning. Have you ever heard such nonsense - Will Rangers will the title again?? - Garbage! We'll be back to show them WATP.

He does sound about patronising but he is still trying his best to get a support motivated.

Post of the day! 3-5-2 Couldnt agree more, i think it would get us back to dominating games and it would keep 2 up top which would help Boyd out!

Its say it was a fantastic achievement but if we finished 7th in the league and went out the SFA cup in jan then that wouldnt be great. But we need to be in europe next season IMO.

Im not blaming Fergie for last nite, im just asking if its coincidence we have played better when he wasnt in the team. As for last nite, Rae and Clement is too weak a midfield after Clement is recovering from injury and Rae hasnt kicked a ball much

Rae and Clement who have barely kicked a ball recently! They werent match fit enough ao were always going to be lacking. Plus it was 4 v 2 again in midfield

Fine post Steve with good points. Everyone was knee-jerk reacting last nite, and i still think everyone backs the manager. I do!

Just looking at that team again from last night, its the same problem as last year - its a 4-2-4 Buffel is not a real midfielder so that means Rae (who has barely kicked a ball this season) and Clement (3rd game in 5 days after a layoff) in the midfield. Im not surprised we lost. 4-2-4 is a struggle at the best of times never mind when the 2 havent been playing.

While we are all looking for answers as to why we cant seem to play basic football now, im looking at the patches in the last 12 months as to when we have played well domestically. Its always been when Captain Ferguson is not playing. Now i know he wasnt playing last night but, last season For EG up at Inverness, we played them off the park with Boab Malcolm playing superbly in the holding role and the likes of Burke etc getting forward. This was a trend for a few games until Ferguson returned. The start of this season saw us playing superb stuff in 3 of our first 4 games against Motherwell, DU and Hearts. Once again Ferguson wasnt playing. Now BF gives all for the Gers - nobody can doubt that, but his style of play just isnt suited to allow others in the key midfield area into the game. He tries to dictate everything himself too much and takes on too much responsiblilty.

I think last nights defeat to the hands of a SFL Div1 side is the final straw for many a Gers fan. We now demand action. We are not calling for the managers head, we simply want answers as to what direction our club is going. The Chairman or sidekick must at least make a statement on issues on and off the park. On the park - what is going on? The average street cleaning fan (no offence to a street cleaner) can clearly see holes in the team that the most sought after young coah in Europe cant. Our defence is a shambles and cant win a football in the air, something so simple as that! Or midfield is once again lacking in numbers and most of all shape. That has been a massive problem for a couple of years now! Its not rocket science. Upfront its either 1 or 2 strikers but its guarenteed to be someone different every game. We demand answers!! The players and manager also need to give us answers but we want the talking form them on the pitch against Dunfermline on saturday. Anything less than a spirited win is not good enough.

Who knows the answer???? Well there isnt 1 quick fix answer that is for sure. But on the park the players need a good kick up the backside. The manager admits he is under pressure so its time for him to stop being stubborn and come out of his shell and drill it into these players what they need to do. He needs to sort out his first XI and play them consistantly. Id rather we were poor with the same team for a few games so we can at least try to resolve it, rather than chopping and changing every game. EVERY player needs to give at least 60% more effort and fight, and make it last for 90 mins. It seems they have to much belief that they are going to beat teams without trying. David Murray you MUST now come out with some statement or another. I dont care if you come out with the latest price of a cucumber at asda, at least open your mouth!!!

I agree 30000 is a good crowd all things considered. You have to Remember its not easy coming out and talking to 1000s of people when they are on a low.

Fat wanker, will Aberdeen ever win anything else again??? Doubt it! Whereas we will be back to stick it right up him.

So is Boyd saying that they can sacrifice the league and cups this season for European sucess? Whereas we'd all love to go to Hampden in May, getting to the UEFA final doesnt mean we have to sacrifce domestic games. Nonsense

DM may be the problem at the core of the team but nobody can blame him for losing against Dundee United and St Johnstone. We had a mulit million pound team against both and we looked as if we were playing we sand in our boots. The team is a lost cause. I thought we might get a response from Sunday but the opposite happended. Dunfermline wont be scared about coming to Ibrox on Saturday.

Now id say we are entering a crisis, if that result against Utd on sunday wasnt good enough then last night goes beyond that. Im lost for words and for the first time i now doubt Le Guen.

Sebo looks to chunky and baulky at the moment, nothing wrong with being strong if you can use it right but he isnt. He may still come good. I have to question why Rae is captain also when he is nowhere near a starting XI place in the SPL or europe. I dont know if id play Clement tonight. He obviously wasnt fit enough to play 2 games of 90 mins thurs and sunday, so tonight may once again be too much for him. Id put him on the bench and give him the last half hour. We need him fit for europe and SPL, last thing we need is a set back.

Id say the same about McPherson aswell (2nd time round)

I agree, and id also call it an applause more than a clap. We are applausing a guy who was a Gers captain and applausing what he did for the club.

____________McGregor__________ Hutton__Svensson__J Rod___Smith _Novo__Hemdani___Rae_____Adam __________Boyd___Sebo_______

I took Bardsley, he just pips it as a overall better RB. Unless we see Hutton Pre-leg break. BTW can Ian Murray play RB? If so i think thats a good shout!

Didnt see that one coming and man utd had a strong team out!! Sir Awex didnt see to care though, he said if were going to go out it might aswell be like that. He is obviously thinking he didnt need the extra games in this cup so he can concentrate on the other 3

Its still worth chuckling about Gav