SteveC
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Steve Clarke is a Celtic can and not the only one on this page.
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I presume the fake cut deferral trick cannot run in the notice period.
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Really? Stockbridge, Green, Ahmed, Wallace etc etc have made/are making huge amounts just fine with us being utter pish and constantly papped out of cups.
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Sorry to be a pain but I just don't understand this. Can you do a "explanation for dummies" guide? Do you mean every million he makes - say from Newcastle or anywhere else tied to SD is also worth "11.7m? PS And how can I get my monthly income to multiply 11.7 times too, please?
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Because it's easy money, it's what he does - he targets distressed companies and squeezes whatever he can out of them. He has made and will continue to make money out of us whether we are succesful or not. He's played this very shrewdly from his point of view, you think he hasn't because he's not improving our team, our facilities or engaging with the fans but none of that means anything to him. He's got what he wanted, if he can get even more he'll take it but he's not going to bother too much when he's already done/doing so well out of us and we're a minor thing (despite him making millions) amongst his interests to begin with.
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I don;t think he sees it that way, nor cares much one way or another
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I think that is what is hard for them - doing any of that, because all they are interested in is complete exploitation for said benefit.
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He speaks like he does, does he not? Every interview over the past x amount of years he says he is doing the right thing, we do play good football, the majority of fans are behind him and that if he'd done what the dissenters wanted we'd never have got out of the bottom division. It's only a few weeks since he said (after another f@ck up) that under him "we'd had many more good days than bad ones, that's for sure". I mean that he believes it, btw, not me! (I've edited it to obviate any ambiguity).
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Who will pay that one wonders, some poor ripped off sod or another
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He's been very shrewd. He's got what he wanted at no cost. He's got no duty of care to show dereliction towards.
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I think he firmly believes this and also thinks that that most fans agree with him and it is just a few internet trolls causing trouble for him
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/11292997/Mike-Ashleys-Rangers-regime-admit-it-is-very-difficult-to-win-over-fans.html ' Mike Ashley’s right-hand man at Ibrox has admitted that overcoming the Rangers support’s lack of trust in the board will be “very difficult”. Derek Llambias, formerly managing director at Newcastle United, has imposed an austerity regime at Ibrox which has seen long-standing staff axed, a factor understood to have contributed to Ally McCoist's decision to work his 12-month notice period as manager unless the directors find the cash to pay off him along with his backroom staff. Unhappiness with team performances has grown – Rangers are nine points behind Hearts in the Scottish Championship promotion race and lost 2-0 to Queen of the South on Friday – but the greatest source of disenchantment is with the directors. The decision by the Rangers plc board to favour a £3million loan from Ashley over a £16million takeover bid from former director Dave King has alienated many fans from the owner of the Sports Direct chain, which markets the club’s merchandise. Rangers’ most recent accounts confirmed Telegraph Sport’s disclosure that Rangers had lost more than £8million in the last financial year. At the annual general meeting on Dec 22 the board will ask for approval for an £8million share issue but, more immediately, cash flow is threatened by plunging gates, with the club admitting to a 19,000 attendance for the visit of Cowdenbeath last weekend, although insiders say that the crowd was actually not much above 15,000. “We need to re-establish credibility with the fans, which is going to be very difficult,” Llambias told the most recent meeting of the club’s Fans Board. “What is obvious is that we need cash to stay in the club and not go elsewhere. We are cutting back as much as we can and put it onto the park “We’ve cut as much as we can. Our strategy is that we’re not affecting the playing area. We’ll be looking to review pricing of match day and season tickets to ensure we’re as competitive as we can be. Pricing and value are two key areas that we’re focusing on.” Llambias also revealed that Rangers had made several attempts to secure a deal with Charlie Telfer, the 19-year-old midfielder whose move to Dundee United cost the Tannadice club £204,000 development compensation. “He went for less money because he wanted first-team football,” said Llambias. “Four different offers were made throughout Charlie’s contract term, all of which were refused.” Sandy Easdale, chairman of Rangers football board – who is another target for disaffected fans – revealed that live match fees could not make up for the slump in attendances. “Match attendances are down UK-wide right now,” he said. “We’d rather fill the stadium than broadcast live as we don’t make as much money. Rangers TV costs us money – a lot of money as it stands right now. The club is subsidising this. This is not as big an issue when we’re back in the Premier League.” Telegraph Sport revealed that the board had been wrong-footed by McCoist’s decision to hand in his notice. At the meeting with the Fans Board, which preceded the manager’s shock announcement, Easdale said: “As far as we’re concerned the management team will remain in place. We had a good meeting with the manager today and we will continue to have ongoing dialogue with the management.” The Fans Board was told by Easdale that Rangers have a financial dividend coming at the end of December from Sports Direct but that the club shops in Belfast and Glasgow Airport had lost £600,000 between them. He added that Rangers get £10 per shirt sold by Puma and have leveraged Sports Direct to get a better deal. Easdale assured the Fans Board that they would be the club’s means of communication with supporters “as exclusively as possible”, a policy that sets the board on a collision course with dissident groups such as the Rangers Supporters Trust who, along with the Union of Fans, are intent on securing five per cent of the club’s shares, so that they can requisition extraordinary general meetings. Meanwhile, McCoist is due to meet Llambias and Easdale on Wednesday to discuss his future at the club, with the bookies already quoting odds on Terry Butcher and Stuart McCall as possible successors. However, the problem remains that Rangers do not have the £15million required to pay off the manager and his backroom staff'. Yikes, Ally's on more than we thought !
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Hey SC, there's not being clean, as you put it, and getting into the same bed with a naked Tommy Sheridan. That's a different category all together in the altogether stakes.
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Almost as bad as this: http://www.charltonlife.com/discussion/38536/the-further-adventures-of-billy-davies
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wtf is this tosh: "He’s already coughed up a lot of money "? At least "rigour mortis" gave me a laugh. Tit.
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Ex-Rangers star Jamie Ness opens up on being Ibrox 'rebel'...
SteveC replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
You can get a lot for a quid. Rangers for one, naming rights to the stadium for another -
Ex-Rangers star Jamie Ness opens up on being Ibrox 'rebel'...
SteveC replied to ian1964's topic in Rangers Chat
"It all happened so quickly" = no it did not. Plus the article and Ness deliberately mis-read the Whittaker and Naismith situation. It's a dreadful attempt at rewriting history all based on the bizarre premise of his dad having cancer so he thinks the way to help is to to move far away from home as quickly as he can. -
Butcher mention apart, that reads well
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(4) to show us the title deeds
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I agree but that is of no interest to Ashley, unless it means he gets a Rangers fan in who will do it on the cheap and put up with all the shit from his controllers without complaining even if this Rangers fan in the manager chair knows it is bad for Rangers. (And so isn't a real fan after all)
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CRAIG Whyte last night protested his innocence of fraud charges over his Rangers takeover and revealed: “I sleep well at night.” Former owner Whyte, who is accused of swindling his way to power at Ibrox, vowed he will clear his name. But as he lifted the lid on his dramatic arrest in Mexico last month, he insisted he has no fear of prison. Whyte, 43, said: “These are huge issues and I don’t take any of it lightly. I always sleep well at night. “I know that I have done absolutely nothing wrong. Over the last six months, I don’t think it has been very difficult. “But if you asked me over the last month, I would say it hasn’t been very pleasant in lots of ways.” Whyte, who plunged Gers into administration during his controversial reign, faces jail time if he is convicted of serious charges. He said: “It wouldn’t be very nice but it doesn’t frighten me. “It’s not something I would wish on anybody but I hope that it doesn’t come to that. “It’s too early to be thinking like that, I’m positive. “I’m not going to mope around and think of the worst things that could happen to me because that’s not the way to live.” The businessman, from Motherwell, blasted prosecutors and cops over his nicking in Mexico City minutes after landing on a flight from Japan. And he branded news reports following his arrest as “bollocks”. He said: “I agreed to surrender on December 8 so I was taken by surprise to be detained in Mexico. “In my view the Crown Office and the police did that for the publicity — there was no extradition. “I want to get across all the bollocks that’s been written in the last couple of weeks. “I came back here voluntarily, I have co-operated with prosecutors for the last two years and they have still not asked me a question.” He had on the same smart grey coat he wore when he ran a gauntlet of angry Light Blues fans outside Glasgow Sheriff Court in November. And Whyte, sporting the floppy hairdo and beard that are his new trademark, revealed he has no plans to invest in football again. As he tucked into a burger lunch at a swanky hotel restaurant, tanned Whyte said: “I don’t regret doing it because I think you regret the things you don’t do — but I wouldn’t do it again. “Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wouldn’t be rushing to do a football deal again.” The tycoon, once based in Monaco, became a hate figure among supporters after taking Gers into administration as they tumbled from top-flight football to Division Three. The club was later liquidated, sparking an exodus of top players. He claimed Rangers would have gone under sooner had it not been for his takeover in 2011. He went on: “I never asked for any of it. I’m a private, low-key kind of guy, not at all suited to being involved in a football club. “What everyone forgets is I’m the only person in recent years who hasn’t taken a penny out of Rangers. “Even these current charges, I don’t think I’m accused of taking any money out of Rangers. “I bought a company that was bankrupt for £1. Rangers were already completely bankrupt at the time when I got involved. “All I did was step in to try to rescue a situation that was already way beyond. It was my intention to take it forward as a business and not to see it in the sorry state it is in at the moment.” Asked what went wrong, he said: “Champions League would have been a bonus but if Rangers had got into the Europa League they would not have gone into administration that season.” Whyte reckons only someone with £100 million to chuck at the club could have done a better job than him — and that administration was on the cards before he bought out Sir David Murray. He said: “Given the set of circumstances, it’s difficult for anyone to do unless they were willing to chuck £100 million and make sure they bought the players to get results in Europe and so on. Rangers would have gone into administration, before I came along, they were taking insolvency advice. “Absolutely, no doubt about it. Probably sooner.” Whyte, banned from Scottish football for life in 2012, reckons his relationship with Gers supporters is broken forever but he is just as hurt by the club’s fate. And he believes nothing he could say to the Ibrox faithful could shake his bogey man image. He said: “I’m not angry, you have to play the hand that you are dealt but disappointed is a fair comment. “I’m a Rangers fan myself, my family are Rangers fans. “They have every right to be angry but there is nothing I’m going to say that will make any difference about their anger so it’s pointless trying to have that conversation.” Asked if he thinks there is any chance of the Rangers fans changing their minds about him he added: “You can never say never because never is a long time. Hopefully when the facts come out, and they will in this process, people might form a different view. “There are complex issues but things will come to light that will be explosive in many ways.” He admits none of the turmoil he now faces was expected when he took over the reins but says the mistrust among fans is “entirely unfair”. Whyte added: “Anyone who deals with me and has known me knows that’s not the person they recognise. It’s not a fair reflection of who I am. “I think the average fan, and I don’t want to be patronising here, but they don’t understand the complexities of everything that has been going on. Of course, I sympathise with them.” Before his first court appearance, Whyte hadn’t been seen in Scotland for a year since he gave evidence at Inverness Sheriff Court at the trial of two former workers at his castle home near Grantown-on-Spey, Moray. In September the bank repossessed it after he failed to keep up with remortgage payments. Whyte said: “It was a pain in the arse to be honest. It was empty 90 per cent of the time. “It was just a pile of bills with no benefits. I don’t regret losing it.” He was also hit with a 15-year ban from running a company at the Court of Session. He said: “I didn’t defend it. Partially because I didn’t know about it — they didn’t serve any papers. “Secondly it’s not safe to go to trial in Edinburgh every day and thirdly because it has to be funded at the cost of several hundred thousand pounds.” http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/6181247/Whyte-Ive-no-regrets.html?teaser=true
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It will be someone who owes Ashley either a favour or cash and will come to work of the debt. It would be an insane advert. Come to work for us: we have no money, no scouts, disaffected yet demanding fans and we are going to go out of business any day now so don't bring too many clothes
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It terrifies me SBS, Wise is even more despicable than Black. Boards - Easdale, Manager - Wise- Pitch - Black = all utterly without any redeeming virtues and unsupportable. I guess that would be me never coming back. All that and Cashley as owner. I started when it was Marlborough-Symon-Greig. "You're not Rangers anymore", would indeed be incarnate.
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Things could get worse, we could get a manager as repellent as our directors: "Whatever Leicester defender Callum Davidson was dreaming of as he slept in his room during his club's pre-season tour of Finland in September 2002, it can't have been as horrendous as the nightmare he awoke to: new team-mate Dennis Wise had broken into his room and punched him in the face, fracturing his jaw. Over a game of cards. Wise was sacked. Wise then sued for unfair dismissal but, like his Leeds team now, lost."
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Suspect we'll be getting rid of the schoolboys in the coming week(s)