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Hopefully just a mutual Everton/Scouse thing?

I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of the guy (Barton not Dylan) but it is clear to all and sundry we need a higher level of player throughout our team to enable us to progress next year. Barton was the player of the year for a team that is heading to the EPL so that is good enough for me.

I'm sure there is also a story in one of the papers by one of the official which supports this whole incident

I hate to be pedantic Berliner but Wattie signed Healy, not Ally

No thanks mate. One of the most refreshing things about this bright new dawn under Mark Warburton is that we haven't fallen into the lazy thinking that has blighted our club for the last 10 years or so. ie. Let's keep looking back at the past... Boyd, Novo, Miller, Smith, Foster etc. Forget the past. Let's keep looking forward and instead of dusting off some old year books to find our next star, I'd rather we found them with good scouting and a keen eye for new/potential talent.

I made the mistake of tuning into Radio Scotland to listen to the match and couldn't believe what Willie Miller was saying prior to the match. He was stating that this is not "must-win" game. How do you work that out Willie? Every game in group scenario is a must win game IMO and the point has been proven by the result and where it leaves us. We should have gone all guns blazing v Georgia and that would have given us the luxury of going into the German game with nothing to lose. A defeat is kind of expected but if we managed to pick up anything it would a bonus. Now we have to win this game IMO and the Poland game (Gibraltar should be a given). Typical friggin Scotland. with attitudes like Millers, no wonder we are so far behind

I've not been excited as a Gers fan since wee Dick came in. The more I hear from Warburton, the more I like him and think he could the best appointment we've made in donkeys. He's progressive, he's positive and speaks very clearly and concisely about the game of football. For this fan, the manager is not only saying the right things but within one game we can see there a recognizable plan. Gone are the days of football by chance. Welcome to football by design and the 21st Century. Post script. Is it just our new strip or did Waghorn and Tavernier look like a couple tanks? I wouldn't mess with them in a hurry

You've gotta have fai-fai-fai-faith as George Michael once said

Sorry dude. That wasn't aimed at you. I'm just sick of hearing about our detractors. I just want to focus on football and the future. It's been a while since we could do that with any confidence!

If that is the case, what is the fekin point? Let's sort this mess out properly and stop lurching from one quick fix to another. Saying that I have a feeling that after the utter drivel we have had to endure over the last few years on the pitch, if we show decent signs of progression the fans will buy into it and hopefully this will afford the new manager time to implement his ethos.

Pardon my French but f**k the haters. I couldn't give a damn about them. Let's just concentrate on our own journey. Let's get our heads down and make sure we are ready for every challenge ahead by scoring as many goals as we can, winning as many games as we can by playing forward thinking progressive football. The rest will follow

Agreed but I think there is a marked difference. When PLG came in we were still relatively successful (despite McLeish's last season). He came in to maintain the challenge to Celtic and win the league. Warburton's remit is somewhat different due to where we find ourselves after 3/4 horrid years. He has to rebuild our entire system and philosophy as well as get us promoted. There is no point in getting promoted without a long term plan and foundation for success in the top league. That's the problem Ally had (amongst many tbh). It was short termism at it's worst. There was no long term vision

Good to hear that he wanted to sign based on the manager and his philosophy. That speaks friggin volumes IMO

I like what we are trying to do here. Two young and hungry ball playing central defenders with a seasoned pro like Eustace sitting in front pulling the strings (hopefully). It looks like a plan. A formation. An ethos. Sure beats the Age of Jig and random journeyman foreign overpaid duds. Bring on the Revolution!

Every time Mark Warburton opens his mouth it fills me with even more confidence. This is what we needed 10 years ago never mind 3 years ago. The guy is a breath of fresh air and I love the fact he has zero connection with Scotland, Rangers, The Media et all. IMO he will be the most important signing Rangers have made since they brought in Souness nearly 30 years ago. And as much as I hate to bring up the whole McCoist thing, I get the impression that by doing the simple things properly, this guy is only going to highlight how badly we have been managed on the field over the last few years. As if we didn't know already

You are kidding? McLeish would have been another massive step backwards and god knows we've had plenty of them. He's a nice guy and I appreciate what he achieved over a decade ago but he is the last thing we needed. For some reason unknown to me, he has turned into a manager that seems more interested in worrying about the opposition than believing in his own team. Having watched many Brum and Villa games, his teams would have put you off football for life. People go on about experience as if it's some kind of benchmark for possible managerial success but if your recent experience is littered with negative and dire football, how relevant is it?

I still get a shiver down my back thinking that McLeish was even linked to managers position again. That would have been the final nail in the coffin for this supporter.

Hopefully the first brick in what I hope is to become a giant revolutionary wall!

Apparently he played for Killie on loan. He's also a ROI Under 21 international

Don't know anything about him TBH but at this stage the new manager has all my trust. If he has worked with him before that's good enough for me. Good age and hopefully good value

Good debate guys. I think from my own POV, there is a duty upon the keepers of the keys at Ibrox to build a new future for our club and team beyond just winning at all costs. The multitude of events over the last 10 years or so have tried the patience of many a fan and I have to admit it's caused to me to fall out of love with football in general. The utter neglect and contempt shown by a raft of owners/leaches over the last 5 years was bad enough to swallow but to see our entire footballing enterprise being so overlooked and abused by various individuals for me was sometimes harder to take. I can probably count on one finger the progressive decisions we have taken for the sake of our footballing ethos over this period and I genuinely feel that is about to change. No more Kenny Millers on fat wages. No more backwards thinking. We need to get a new generation of fans back through the door based on the football alone and I feel with an appointment like Warburton, we are at least giving ourselves the chance. The past is past. Let it stay there

As much as I will always be appreciative of what Walter has done for Rangers, that door should be closed. It's the past and that's where it should stay. IMO our obsession with continually looking back has held us back over the last 10 years or so. It's short termism at it's worst. We need a fresh start. A blank sheet of paper. We need to move on and give this guy the time and space to help rebuild our club and lay the foundations for the next 10/20/30 years.

Words of wisdom? I shudder to think... "Right Mark...if the you find that bypassing the midfield and punting the ball twenty times to the strikers is not working, don't worry. Just keep trying. Football by chance and not design is the future." "Remember you'll need a limited player like Lee McCulloch/Christian Dailly to fit badly into various positions and be an empty jersey. He'll also offer some dig...ie. foul after foul...." "Play as many players as you can out of position" "Don't practice any dead balls or corners. It's a waste of time" "Get Coisty or Duranty in the background to keep the lads happy" "If you have a player that shows any signs of skill, make sure you drum that out of him by benching him or playing him in the wrong position" And so on, and so on....

I'm pretty sure their budget would have been one of the lowest in the division to

Agreed. This is one thing that cannot be overlooked about football. It's not good enough to simply rely on loyalty IMO. Fans need to be engaged with what's on the pitch and the direction we were heading over the last few years under Ally was losing fans by the minute. We were in danger in losing a generation of fans due to the turgid football on offer and I hope to god we cannot claw these young people back with a new exciting product on the park.