CammyF

Yip, but asking football fans to think reasonably is a lost cause....!

Oh 100% but again it is an exception to the rule.

Agreed, but maybe its romantic nostalgia but under SG we seemed to get better every season, we had players who had sell-on values etc. On the European stage, there is little to criticise GVB on - the EL final was disappointing but on ballance we probably deserved to lose on the night, but it was a great effort and different from the loss to Zenit, which made it harder to accept. Off the field, we have neglected so many issues (catering, ticketing, disabled access, customer service), it just seems things are stalling a little.

100% and given where we are financially we appear to have prioritised Europe and built a team suited to that environment.

Good post but serious question, do you trust this board to get us to end of our journey and how long will it / should it take us? When will the journey be complete? For me there should be no end to the journey but certain aspects of our club does seem to have stalled since Gio arrived (maybe a coincidence).

Whilst I agree with most of above, when was the last time we managed to be successful in Europe and win the SPL title? 1992-1993 season?

And that is fine in itself. If I want to be huffy and petulant, then I'll be huffy and petulant.

So he's signing this week then 😆

3 defensive midfield players is a cert. Jack, Lundstrum and Kamara. Goalie? Don't really care. Goalies make mistakes and when they do they normally result in goals.

It'll be a short breather, Helander is made of cardboard. Does anyone know how many consecutive games he's managed for us?

At least the question / issue would have been raised. Not getting at fan media but it seems its designed to give manager an easy ride. If they can't or won't raise these questions and issues, what's the point of paying top dollar to sit and not ask the relevant questions fans want answers to?

Real putting them in their place doesn't help us as no-one domestically can put them in their place, certainly not us going by yesterday's capitulation

I wonder any of our "fan media" have the "metal" to put this record to Gio at his next press-conforence?

Said yesterday the our board (and I've heard this from a very good source) have prioritised Europe over domestic success. As long as Gio or who ever is the manager continues to bring in £30-£40M from Europe, domestic negligence will be accepted. I don't see Gio doing a SG and leaving due to not being backed. Someone said yesterday that Celtic are our barometer. If that is the case, they have shown that you can't rule domestically as well as excelling in Europe. Their model is simple - win the league and get automatic qualification to CL. If that doesn't happen, sell 4 or 5 players at an profit. Also, if Celtic are our barometer, check the difference in transfer budgets - their spend dwarfs ours. There is so much wrong with our Club - ticketing, customer service, safe standing, catering, diasabled access to name a few issues and now we've been added to UEFA FFP watch-list, the purse strings are not going to be lossened. Our board are NOT what we need to take us forward but they aren't going anywhere soon so we're stuck with them. The league is not lost, but its now an uphill battle to get back into the race but with (financial) pressure on us to progress in Europe, all our energy and focus will be on that. After the sale of Aribo, Patterson and Bassey we don't have players sales to fall back on - Kamara would be the only player we could sell for a profit in the January transfer window. Bleak period ahead... unless this team clicks and goes unbeaten from now until end of season which I can't see happening.

Really.......

Celtic are not a barometer for me. Goldson - never injured, never missing and never hiding whilst all our other CBs are nowhere to be seen - hence having to play Sands. We needed to sign a keeper in the summer, but McLaughlin is best option at the moment or are we conveniently forgetting McGregors howlers last season? Matondo is a LEFT WINGER being played out of position whilst trying to settle into a new team / culture. But no matter, let's write him off. The EL final was just over 100 days ago so is still relevant especially added to CL qualification this season as it shows a genuine progression in Europe. If Celtic are the barometer domestically, then are they also the barometer in Europe? If they are, we are passing all over them. Unfortunately the board will take European success over domestic for 1 reason (well 30 or 40 million reasons). That's just something we'll need to live with as the board ain't going anywhere soon.

Currently, yes. Morelos is unfit and a liability as shown at Easter Road. Colak is fit and scoring goals two of which helped us to CL group stages.

Our away league record in 2022 Wins - St Johnstone, Dundee, St Mirren, Motherwell, Hearts (meaningless end of season kick about), Livingston Draws - Aberdeen, Ross County, Dundee United, Celtic, Hibernian Defeats - Celtic x 2

Rubbish. The vast majority of the players you mentioned played part in getting us to EL Final and qualifying for the Champions League. Most of them helped deliver 55. Again, we can't sell players if nobody wants to buy them. If nobody wants to buy them we have 2 options. Resign them or lose them for nothing. Motondo has been here 5 minutes and appears to be this seasons Bassey / Lundsturm. We had a limited budget to spend, what did you expect or put another way, who did you expect us to sign? Soutar was a free transfer and worth remembering that we need a percentage of Scottish players in our CL / Euro squad. So if not Wright and Soutar, then who?

Aribo, Bassey, Lundstrum and I'll predict Lawrence and Tillman will improve us over the season.

Meaningless in the context of an utterly embarrassing OF defeat.

But we can't sell players if no one wants to buy them.

Haven't beaten them (in 90mins) in last 4 games.

Domestically? Plenty examples on the Eurepean stage.

That Jack Ross is looking for a job...... 😃