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Ha ha. Well you don't want to be known for being too quick.

Superman speed too. Can log on and off before you know he's there. :devil:

Bad news, they were out of the XXXXL last I heard.

A lot of good points, particularly the last 2; Greig and the one before. The problem with debates on forums is it often comes down to balck and white when really it's shades of grey. Opinion gets polarised. In this debate it is very contentious and there are arguments either way. So for once I wont claim anyone who disagrees with me is a moron and that they might actually have a point. Bearing in mind the post I quote are the likes of Baxter, Cooper and Gazza legends?

Am I on the end of a practical joke? Thought the mirror website had a red banner?

Ha ha. I'm not that pished..... yet. I'm not denying the man and the player has his faults. I just think that could be said about anyone (even a legend) and the good far outweighs the bad. I also think Barry and Keane had a similar style of captaincy and if I watched Keane as avidly as the Rangers support watched Barry i'd find similar stuff to moan about.

Gersnet. The best Rangers forum about. We even have posters with Superhero abilities.

Lol, that was my thoughts. You made that up Ian. (not checked the link btw).

I guarantee 1 is wrong. 2 and 3 maybe not. I bet if you watched Man U as a fan week in week out throughout Keane's career you might well find examples. Thought keane being at Man U, what are the chances he had to suffer playing beside a Hamed Namouchi? Fergie had a winners mentality. Your Namouchi's and his ilk did not (that's the one thing Sebo did have btw ).

Craig, that's the point I have tried and failed to make. Celtic doing well and improving the co-efficient is not necessarily good news for us. It is good news for them. Us doing well and them not is definitely good news for us. (For example the approx 24 co-efficient points we got for Manchester is more than Rangers and Celtic tend to accrue between the two. I.e. we don't both normally get 12 each.) Therefore i'll play the odds and hope they get pumped.

How long you been out the country? Its the Daily Star he's got that from! (Bloody hope it aint true. Experience says otherwise )

Short answer. Yes. The off-field stuff I give you. No defence on Fergie's part. The "moaning". Lord give me strength. If I hear that again i'll cry. One of the worst moany face bastard football captains of the last 2 or 3 decades (despite being a despicable cunt off the field and a tim to boot) is Roy Keane. Now that man demanded standards, as Rangers demand standards. And if you didn't live up to them, then damn sure you were going to hear about it. On and off the field. It's grown men we are talking about. If your excuse for not performin is "that angry wee man shouted at me" then you're not in right profession. And I don't just mean football. I mean competitive sport. Your mum wont always be there to wipe your arse and look after you.

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Well neither of them could spot a left mifielder! Looks like the best answer to me. All club/SPL stories get posted on the RSS feed. People can brows them if they wish. Any big stories get posted anyway and we get merged threads between different posters and sometimes RSS feeds anyway. So nothing chanes except the less interesting RSS feeds stay in that forum.

The truth of the matter is Barry Ferguson probably is a Rangers legend. Much as that wont sit well with older bears or younger bears who make the effort to understand the history of the club. Ferguson was an integral part of 2 of the 7 trebles the club has won. Ferguson was a member of the more numerous double winning squads at the club. Ferguson was captain of a Rangers side in a European final, putting him in very esteemed company. Ferguson was part of some of the most electric moments of recent seasons that just so happen to go down in folk lore for Rangers fans; SPL win 02/03, Helicopter Sunday (which we would most likely not have won but for his return) and last years league win on the last day. 15 trophies. Most European appearances by a Ranger. Most European appearances by a Scot/for a Scottish club. Captained his country. Against: Left for the EPL. "Got a woefully inept manager the sack". (Spurious and debatable) Embarrassed the club whilst representing his country. (No defence here, the only one I blame him for). A number of other legends did not lead impeccable, blemish free lives on or off the field. The man is not faultless. It is quite easy to point some of them out. It is more difficult to identify which ones are real and which ones are the result of the internet age, blame culture and general bullshit. Prior to his Brum transfer, go back a month or two, and I would be erring on the side of not a legend. When you sit down and look at what he has achieved. What he has done. What he has been involved in as a Ranger and it is far more difficult to deny his status. Legend does not mean faultless. Legend does not mean a man who could only do good. Legend means a lot of things to a lot of people and the uber-fans will most likely have to deal with the fact that Barry Ferguson will most probably go down as a legend for Rangers Football Club. I don't think i'm 100% happy about that. I don't know precisely what I think. I do know that in the space of the transfer to Birmingham being muted and then confirmed my opinion has mellowed and I guess will continue to do so with time. Leading me to the conlcusion of the above post. (So all you haters bring it on. :box:)

It's not that you don't have a good point. But look at these scenarios: 1) Celtic make the CL this year. Do well, last 16 even. Earn big bucks and their mere presence reduces our money. Based on their profits from the CL they win the league and gain automatic qualification or an easy CL qualifier for 2010/11 (depending on who wins it this year). We, as runners up, go into the qualifiers. Check out Bert kassies website. As qualifiers, but not national champions, we go into the non champions draw and get an Arsenal or a Lyon and get papped out. Falkirk, 'Well, Hearts and Aberdeen all got papped out early doors. Celtic get CL mega bucks, reduce our money, improve their co-efficient and we struggle for CL and SPL campaigns in years to come. Vicious cycle. 2) We alone qualify for the CL. We get 3rd and have a round or 2 in the Europa cup, or finish 4th but alone take the tv money for the CL. Celtic, Falkirk, Aberdeen, 'Well and Hearts all get papped out early doors. The Scottish co-efficient is weakened. Celtic do not have money to strengthen. We have our finances in improved. We win the league. The SPL doesn't gain automatice CL qualification. But we go into the Champions side of the draw and have to beat the Nag's head XI of Wales to qualify. Both scenarios are equally as possible. Both are admittedly fantasy. However I am just trying to illustrate the point that Celtic doing well in Europe is by no means good news for us and can certainly be bad news. Do Man City fans support Man U in Europe? Do Atletico fan support Madird in Europe? Do Feyenoord fans support Ajax in Europe? Ok these clubs might be able to afford to have that mentality due to the relative strength of their league but taking into consideration the paragraph above, i'll take my chances. I will be pulling for a win (seeing as you are still getting hung up on the semantics ) for Hearts, Falkirk, Motherwell and yes even Aberdeen. But Celtic can go and get fucked. It is far too simplistic to say them doing well in Europe is good for us and them doing bad is bad for us. In fact, the exact opposite could be true. Should they do well, get the financial benefits and hence win the SPL, it could be a long time before we have any kind of European run. The SPL is our bread and butter and I think we need to remember that.

Celtic are Oirish.

It's not just so I can't laugh at their expense. Timmy getting into CL reduces our financial bonus. Increases theirs. Financially they are stronger than us atm. If they have good European seasons and we dont they will continue to strengthen we will continue to weaken. Vicious cycle. People can say that is short-sighted or a parochial view. However, in reality our only competition in the league is them. In Europe no one has a divine right to do well. It is a bonus. That is the truth of the matter. And just because Timmy fail does no guarantee the coefficient will be decimated. I'm not going to support the scum in Europe which will certainly benefit them, but the benefits to us our less obviously attained. Fuck them. :spl:

No automatic qualification spot next year as the 13th ranked country. If the winners of the tournament have already qualified, the winners of the SPL will get an automatic spot. And still fuck Celtic.

But the evidence is that Celtic performing in Europe has never benefitted us to any great extent. As long as we have a reasonabel run in Europe every year that appears to be enough to keep us at least at the level we are at for teh countries coefficient and realistically it never looks like improving much. I'm not convinced Celtic having a good run benefits us in anyway.

Support. Want to win. Semantics. Fuck em. Hope they lose every match 6-0. It's not normal to want your greatest rivals to win. Ignore all that bollocks of the greater good. All the guff about the co-efficient. Over the years we've contributed the most and this about the first time we've received direct entry.

Bollocks to that. We've rarely had a season where more than 1 team has performed ok in Europe and always hover around the 10th-13th ranked league. I'm not convinced we need to support the mhanks in Europe and if they have reasonable seasons whilst we are struggling they will gain in co-efficient and money starting a vicious cycle of them getting stronger and us potentially weakening and struggling to keep up. I hope the lose every match badly but will support all other Scottish teams in Europe. Including Aberdeen.

Ha ha. The "work" isn't so bad when you enjoy it. :spl:

Ha ha. :cheers: I'd happily write about sport for a living. Just need to find a media outlet where you're not banned from writing positive stories about the gers :devil: Just kidding. Seriously though Sports Journalism (or any other subject you were interested in) would be awesome. Go and watch your favourite sports events for free and then someone pays you to write about it. Would be like getting a wage from Gersnet. :spl:

Just had a look back and saw it does mention his hamstring, not sure how I missed that first read, so makes my intial point obvious. All it really says though is: Hamstring injury. Mysterious cause. Symptoms (doesn't state what). Seeing a top Sports Medic Injections. When he says nothing is showing up I guess he means in any testing by medical staff. Red Herrings may refer to other niggles or injuries that are unrealted and just a result of a grueling season. Training in football is different to a lot of sports in that you dont have a traditional periodisation. You cant select to peak for certain events in the same way that say someone involved in athletics can. You need to be near your peak for 8-9 months with the fact that you are playing 1-2 games each week of the season. It therefore means players are often competing carrying slight niggles that perhaps confused diagnosis of Miller's problem. If the article carried any other details it may be possible to get a better idea of what was going on. However perhaps the club do not want that kind of information being made public as they are obviously incredibly protective of any training methods and testing results perhaps the same applies here. Or perhaps the reported felt the story would be to dull if they got sources to explain medical and scientific concepts that would turn off your average reader? Far more interesting to talk about mystery as you say. No doubt sells papers better.