Super_Ally

We don't care what they think. They can have an opinion if they were competing in the competition.

Clearly lot. The reason I entered the thread was to challenge gisa's ridiculous point that Smith wouldn't play attacking players. Yet he played Naismith who scored the winning goal. Making gisa's predictable moaning null and void. It was a daft comment. Trying to say Insua was better than Naismith was neither here nor there and I shouldn't have allowed myself to be dragged off the point I was arguing. Which player was better is irrelevant.

Funny, I have exactly the same view of you. You weren't missed in your absence. Though I would have to add it's not ever so annoying, but more a pointless waste of bandwidth. What are you're footballing credentials. Funnily enough I was more than happy with the tactics and personnel employed tonight to achieve victory in the Champions League against the team who were (I believe) 5th biggest spenders in Europe this season. I am yet to see you demonstrate any insight or knowledge about the game, other than moaning for the sake of it and being negative.

Still ended up on the losing side and for all this nonsense about Smith not playing attacking players my point was that Smith played the attacking player that ended up deciding the destination of the three points.

Match winner Steven Naismith get on not bad for an offensive player for Rangers today whilst Insua started the match warming the bench.

Welcome to the forums. I do not notice anything in your post though pertaining to the title. In fact it closely follows the current trusts boards apparent views that everyone should drop their reservations and support the current trust as is. There is little mention of a new trust, be that a completely new body or merely a new board. You do suggest co-opting a few more bodies onto the board but this will not solve the problems with lack of unity, it will just maintain the status quo.

I'm assuming you know but it will be interesting for the rest of us to find out.

THis is a line of questioning I have tried to have answered for a while, most recently this post here; http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=221080&postcount=144 In MF's RST AGM thread. I don't believe that many of the current RST board put the RST ahead of their own self-interest and have thought as such since the first major split. I think their actions clearly back this up to. If Mark Dingwall, and possibly a few others, left the RST board it would have a far better chance of flourishing. So why wont he?

Do all Rangers sites have an RST monitor and what happened to our one: UCB? Would actually trying to engage with fans outwith FF as opposed to merely making sure they are not saying negative things about the trust have been a better tactic? Perhaps more for the current board than yourself to answer though.

Some form of positive action is obviously better than just moaning. I was merely responding to why I believe your suggestion would be doomed to failure. At no point did I suggest that we should just moan on message boards so kindly refrain from making stuff up.

Speak to MF, he can get you your money back.

Wouldn't trust the current board not to twist their own rules to block this happening tbh.

Decent and fair minded post that pretty much sums it up for me.

He's only played 25 though, how many were starts. 1 in 3/4 games for a rather poor international team who wont create many chances or dominate many games. I could hardly be accused of being Kyle's biggest supporter but think the parallel's are clearr between Miller proving his doubters wrong and Lafferty doing the same. Miller's career, a purple spell for Scotland aside, was mostly poor to average until his second stint at Ibrox. 3 or 4 years ago you could have quite reasonably argued Miller does not have it. Whilst I too am yet to be convinced by the Ulsterman the opportunity is there for him and he needs no better example than his current team mate. As you have pointed out, it is not merely Miller he could learn from. He would be foolish not to take what lessons he can from other team mates who are performing well in his position.

Where does it state it must be one of the other. He wont be back anytime soon anyway.

On the back of another Kenny Miller double, this time contributing to the demise of Aberdeen at Pittodrie and firing Rangers back to the top of the league, the Scotland forward himself admits he is in the form of his career. Miller has already struck times in the SPL this season with just 6 games played, 11 in 7 if you count the first against Liechtenstein for Scotland. I will not try to re-write history. Miller returned to Ibrox to a hostile reception from the fans, none more so than myself. Even as rumours emerged that Walter might be interested in signing the striker who had served him so well as manager of the national team fans made their thoughts well known at games. Smith, though, is as strong a character as you will find in the Scottish game, (ask Killie chairman Michael Johnstone) and would not be dissuaded. The manager had an image for his Rangers team and would be his own man, making the signings he deemed necessary. Miller has had much to fight against, having scored for Celtic against Rangers prior to being re-singed from Derby and having a less than impressive scoring record for his previous employers north and south of the border. Whilst his work rate has never been in question, his allegiances, his touch and his composure were all very questionable. Miller�s effervescent style along with doubles against Celtic quickly saw many fans change their view on Miller more than repaying the manager�s faith in him. Again, though, I would be being economical with the truth if I were to say that he had completely won over all the fans. As has often been the case with Miller a rich vein of form and goals would be followed by an equal if not longer fallow period. He could not always be relied on to produce the goals. This season, however, Miller has produced goal-scoring form that even Kris Boyd would have trouble keeping up with whilst still contributing to all round team play and providing opportunities for his team mates. How then does this apply to Ulster hitman? Lafferty did not arrive with as much scepticism, nay outright hostility. Despite a modest goal-scoring record with former club Burnley, impressive outings for Northern Ireland saw Lafferty�s arrival greeted with much optimism. More so from fans across the Irish Sea. Lafferty did not have to contend with the baggage of being an unwelcome signing, a supposed traitor among the ranks. However, the first few years of Lafferty�s Rangers career have not been plain sailing. You would imagine that a player who has scored the goal that ultimately sealed the title on the last two occasions would be universally revered by his club�s supporters. But in truth that is not even close to half of the Kyle Lafferty story. Despite occasional flashes of quality from Lafferty he has all too often flattered to deceive. Combine this with moments of gross stupidity, on and off the field, and the rangy forward has all but eroded much of the cautious optimism that greeted his signing. Many of his more fervent supporters would argue that his cause has not been helped by a vindictive media campaign, but we should not allow a Ranger to shirk all responsibility of his behaviour and performances on the field. So, whilst Lafferty�s signing cannot be compared to the loud disapproval with which Miller�s signing met, the gaffer�s continued persistence to fit a toiling forward into his team has engendered much animosity toward the player. This is further exacerbated by a (by Rangers standards) hefty transfer fee. Particularly since the club, until this present season, have had no room for manoeuvre in the transfer window. Lafferty needs look no further than across the dressing room for the inspiration to overcome such adversity. Whilst the source of the hostility towards either player is markedly different, the road to redemption is exactly the same. Committed performances characterised by the skill and ability that Lafferty has so far exhibited all too infrequently and the kind of goal-scoring form required of a first choice Rangers forward can see Lafferty sharing the limelight with his more celebrated team mate rather than merely seeking to emulate a player currently of immeasurable value to Rangers trophy-winning aspirations.

Valencia?

Braga 3 - 0 Celtic Celtic 2 - 1 Braga Celtic 2 - 0 Utrecht Utrecht 4 - 0 Celtic Where's the consistency?

Don't disagree with that just fecked off at the press myself . Horrible shower of arseholes.

See a tasty wee run of fixtures: Buraspor H Hearts A Motherwell H Valenica H Scumtic A Whilst the Champions League games might prove an awkward distraction to our SPL aspirations it's what supporting Rangers is all about. 2 games against top European opposition sandwiched between and Old Firm and two games with Hearts and Motherwell. Most of these are winnable so bring it on!

SO the newspaper have twisted it to effectively look like Rangers fans did more of the distasteful stuff. Obviously it's all bang out of order, but why have the paper represented it as if the specific stories the mention were perpetrated by other Rangers fans. Annoying cunts.

Been that way for the past few seasons.

Fair point I guess. But I still feel we need controlled aggression and not reckless young men.

Hey, I didn't expect a statement like that to come back and bite him on the arse quite so quickly. But it did and I wasn't missing an opportunity.

I agree. But it's more about Lafferty and his inability to keep a cool head. The thread merely highlighted the idea that it might not be the best game for Lafferty. It is not the player's comments that should see us questioning whether Lafferty should be involved but his temperament and past behaviours.