Gonzo79

If needs must, then yes. Dunno. Doubt it.

If a manager change is afoot, we really need to bring in someone with proven credentials next. Enough of these novices.

It's a bit weird just accepting that we're not good enough to 'compete'. Reminds me of GvB's post-Ajax interview and I never forgave him for that.

I'd give him until bonfire night. We can't leave it until December again.

What is going on with Danilo? Has Beale spent £6m on a player he's not sure how to use? I'm genuinely a bit baffled about what his plan is with Danilo and Dessers. I think they might work well together but not sure what Beale thinks because their usage has been a bit all over the place.

I'm dreading getting Liverpool again. There's a few other sides in there that could also give us a hiding. A lot will depend on the draw.

Butland, obviously. It's worrying how often he's our best or one of our best players.

If a train is heading in the wrong direction, it's wise to consider changing things. I wouldn't be sacking Beale just now but if things don't start improving soon, it needs to be considered.

Was it tactics/formation or the midfielders playing poorly though? I'd say about 70/30.

Normally, I'd say you're being a bit reactionary but I'm really not seeing anything positive about Beale. It's just a continuation of the failure we've endured since 55.

I find it hard to criticise someone I haven't heard of.

That's it. Regardless of whether we get too negative or want to remain positive, the evidence is there for us - it's quite concerning. We aren't playing particularly well, we are repeatedly making the same mistakes, we rarely hammer lesser teams, rarely win trophies and there's no real sign of improvement.

When moaning about the latest f*ck up, you can't mention other recent f*ck ups, as that would be unreasonable...apparently.

You just busy yourself with figuring out what week it is and let the rest of us discuss our club's recent lack of success.

We returned to the top flight seven years ago. Out of a total of 21 trophies, we have won a grand total of 2.

Sunday is the first day of the week, so the scum game isn't 'this week'.

Does compete mean get a couple of points? Three points or maybe six points?

PSV haven't played in the CL for years.

Indeed. He keeps making bizarre decisions.

My grip is fine. If they'd been a bit more clinical, that would've been about 8-1. We were shite. No shape, no fight, no nothing. Accepting that crap doesn't help Rangers.

The acceptance of second best and mediocrity amongst some of our support is rather concerning. Watch PSV do very little in the CL.

Thank Christ we won't be in the CL proper with this side. One embarrassment is bad. Another six would be horrific.

Yes but let's not blame the full-backs or the formation.

Four matches against us in just over a year and they've only won one.

I'm not convinced about that. They definitely have a better manager though.