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With the newest alleged UEFA investigation into the ââ?¬Ë?Simply The Bestââ?¬â?¢ song in Osasuna, Rangers have to wage war on two fronts if they have any hope of coming out of this ââ?¬Ë?warââ?¬â?¢ unscathed. Dignified Silence Is No Longer An Option SDM needs to realise that a ââ?¬Ë?dignified silenceââ?¬â?¢ in the face of sensationalist headlines is no longer an option. The club has to come out fighting here. We are not looking for UEFA to ignore any discriminatory songs, we are asking for a level playing field. It is time for the club to take of the kid gloves and hit back here. It sounds petty, but we have to highlight other clubs fans who sing discriminatory songs and prove that we arenââ?¬â?¢t the only club in Europe who have an issue. Hell, we arenââ?¬â?¢t even the only club in Glasgow who has an issue. There is plenty of evidence out there to prove this. A quick search of You Tube will bring up videos of Celtic fans singing IRA, sectarian and other vile songs, itââ?¬â?¢ll bring up videos of West Ham fans singing anti-Jewish and racist songs, itââ?¬â?¢ll show evidence of Aberdeen fans singing discriminatory songs, hell, you can even see the TA singing anti-English racist songs. Celtic fans are getting worried as they have tried their best to get the ââ?¬Ë?press bus incidentââ?¬â?¢ in Milan rubbished and certain sections of the media have as usual been very obliging in ââ?¬Ë?coveringââ?¬â?¢ this up. As well as showing UEFA that we arenââ?¬â?¢t the only club with an issue, we have to highlight this to the Scottish press. This may turn out to be harder than convincing UEFA. Rangers, as a club must invite the editors of the newspapers to Ibrox and show them ââ?¬Ë?You Tube Videosââ?¬â?¢ of other Scottish clubs indulging in discriminatory songs and if they do not splash this all over their front pages, the club must take them to task over this. As with UEFA, we are not asking for preferential treatment, just parity. In our quest for parity both here in Scotland in Europe, it is my belief that Rangers could do worse than enlisting the services of Donald Findlay QC. Ok, SDM treated DF like shit and hung him out to dry, but in our hour of need, DF wouldnââ?¬â?¢t let us down. He is the best in the country and we need the best at the moment. Fââ?¬â?¢ing The Pope Id No Longer An Option The club, hopefully with the help of the RST need to lead an initiative informing Rangers fans that fââ?¬â?¢ing the pope and using F***** as a discriminatory term is going to KILL the club we love. It is my view that once we eradicate effteepee and ââ?¬Ë?f*****ââ?¬â?¢, we are, (like Neil Lennon) untouchable. This is where we need leadership, direction and clarity from the club. No one appears to want to define what is deemed ââ?¬Ë?sectarianââ?¬â?¢, so lets pre-empty the discussion and lay down the ââ?¬Ë?lawââ?¬â?¢. Letââ?¬â?¢s lead from the front, and admit that singing fââ?¬â?¢ the pope is sectarian as is using fe**** as a discriminatory term (this is a grey area, but bare with me). If we are first to announce such things, it puts pressure on others to follow suit. We can then draw a line in the sand and say, ââ?¬Ë?we have defined what terms/songs our fans sing that are discriminatory songs. These will be stopped, BUT nothing else is up for debate. Union flags, GSTQ, RB, Derrys Walls, The Sash et al, whilst not being football songs, THEY ARE NOT SECTARIAN NOR ARE THEY DISCRIMINATORY. Failure to take action on both fronts isnââ?¬â?¢t an option either, if we fail to do this, Rangers will continued be hammered from pillar to post by a Celtic Minded Scottish media (and political base) and UEFA not to mention the MOPES (most offended people ever, yip, the tims). A quick and decisive attack on both fronts will highlight the ââ?¬Ë?one-sidedââ?¬â?¢ sensationalist journalism in this country and will force UEFA to open up a whole can of worms regarding a European wide crack down on discriminatory songs. Cammy F

Sunday mail has a story (front page) about a a rangers fan who posted a video of the rangers fans singing a song in spain and that is not all, and while they where singing said sectarian song, they did the nazi salute. That's the evidence that could get us banned from European competitions. video is on youtube. A shocking 3 minute video of rangers fans singing a sectarian song in spain could get the club banned from europe. The damming clip titled simply the best was shot by a rangers supporter at the end of the 1-0 defeat by osasuna and posted on youtube. last night, supporters leader jim templeton condemmed the singing and said who ever posted the video "had scored a own goal" And sfa boss david taylor who takes over at uefa in two weeks, said all evidence would be studied before a disciplinary probe on thursday. European football boses have already warned the ibrox club they could face the "ultimate sanction". turn to page 4 (yes i'm typing this out) lol (oh fuck it its too long) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG4eX1OHIy0

We all know that we welcome the Always Ultras and Dolly on Saturday and as usual we will be treated to their vile and repugnent songs about Ian Durrant, Davie Cooper, Richard Gough and the Ibrox Disaster. They warmed up for Saturday by directing this filth at Motherwell (confused) fans. As a support, we must get behind OUR team from the first minute to the last (remember the last AFC game at Ibrox?) and outsing this bunch of mutton-molesting, sheep loving, fish gutting arseholes...! So come Bears - you're club needs you. Cammy F

Big Dado is going to France next week to see a knee specialist, and will decide after speaking to him if he is to retire, if he dosn't retire this season then it will be next season, he says he wishes he had came to Ibrox earlier in his career as he just loves the place, i hope he gets the all clear

Fat Jim seems a bit puzzled as to what he means... Funnily enough I noted his silence last week after the Celtic fans sung their IRA hymns of hate.

Carrying an article on the Police - http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.1260981.0.0.php However, look at the some of the 'eye-witness' reports. Am I right in being sceptical of these, especially Billy Williams from Airdrie who claims ; I've just got back the game last night and the whole episode was an embarrassement and I don't mean the result. It was my first trip abroad to watch Rangers. The majority of the Raners fans at the game were very drunk and very abusive to the locals all during the day and especially at the match. Every second song was sectarian about the Pope or Catholics etc. The trouble kicked off when some fans started abusing Ehiogu and other fans objected to it and that's when the fighting started. The police only moved in to stop the fighting. It really was a disgrace. Martin Bain should look into the facts before blaming everything like the police, segregation etc. Our fans were a disgrace and I won't be back abroad to watch them. Before people start abusing me, I've had a season book at Ibrox for 20 years now. -------------------------------------- The underlined part is what 'gives this away'. As a member of the TC with 5 points I didn't get a ticket for the game, so how come he managed it on 'Zero points'. Cammy F

It's as if every Rangers fan is a baddie who spews out poisonous shite!!

Is Larry's job on the line after the latest horrific stories coming from Bears who were in Spain last night? Isn't it Larrys job to ensure the safety of Rangers fans on their travels? Last night, Rangers had 2 official sections of the ground that were well apart from each other and one had NO segregation from the home fans. This would have been apparent to larry when he visited the stadium prior to the game. This is the latest in a long line of tales of woe coming from Rangers fans who are treated like shit whilst following their team not just in Europe, but domestically as well. Saturday will see the Red Scum get carte-blance (sp) to stand at Ibrox for 90 mins and sing their vile songs whilst Bears will be thrown out for unwrapping sweety papers. Larry, your time us up Cammy F

This was the team that Osasuna were using at training this morning Ricardo, Javier Fla�±o, Cruchaga, Josetxo y Corrales, Azpilicueta, Nekounam, Pu�±al y Juanlu, Web�³ y Romeo, source http://www.osasuna.es/dev/actualidad...el-rangers-fc_ Last week this source was correct with Osasuna team 2days prior to KO. Seem to be playing same defence as used v Valencia (ie.better "on paper" than they used at Ibrox) 2 midfielders brought in, Juanlu who played at Ibrox and Azpilicueta Up front Soldado drops out for Romeo (resting Soldado, on bench), Webo, the guy who assaulted Weir is playing.

Rangers defender Andy Webster returned to light training on Monday as his rehabilitation continued following a successful knee operation. He started jogging and hopes to be back in action for the Ibrox club in April. The 24-year-old made a nightmare start to his loan spell after joining Rangers from Wigan Athletic until the end of the season. Webster sustained the medial ligament injury at training and has been out of action for two months. I wonder if it's too late for him this season?, and will he be here next season?, regardless i hope he fully recovers.

Have we, as a support, ever found ourselves in a predicament such as the one that faces us at this moment in time? We have an owner (Chairman, custodian, call him what you like) who is running our club into the ground and who is content to sit back and watch us suffer at the hands of political policing, campaigned attacks from media with an agenda and off course, our friends from UEFA. Firstly, Iââ?¬â?¢ll say something that is as controversial as the problems that we face. I donââ?¬â?¢t think that enough of us really care about Mr Murrayââ?¬â?¢s mismanagement or the ââ?¬Ë?political policingââ?¬â?¢ that has been more and more evident on our travels in Scotland for the last 3-4 years. So before we can go about righting the wrongs, we have to engage the ââ?¬Ë?silent majorityââ?¬â?¢ of Rangers fans and open their eyes to the severe problems we face both from within and out-with the Rangers boardroom. As ââ?¬Ë?One Voiceââ?¬â?¢ we can not be ignored in the corridors of power be it at Ibrox of The Scottish Parliament. The RST have thus far been the only ââ?¬Ë?publicââ?¬â?¢ voice of the support and are in constant dialogue with Mr Murray and after the OF game, have asked for a meeting with the police of the policing of said OF game. However, the direction should be coming from within Ibrox. Our owner should be the one that is asking the police why they removed Union Flags from Rangers fans, why they told certain fans that singing Rule Britannia and No Tims In Europe was ââ?¬Ë?sectarianââ?¬â?¢. Our owner should be asking why Rangers fans were 90% more likely to be arrested than Craptic fans at OF game at The Towers. Instead, Dodgy Dave thinks a ââ?¬Ë?dignified silenceââ?¬â?¢ will get us answers. All our ills off and on the pitch point directly back to Dodgy Dave. However, he (God knows how) still retains ionic status amongst the majority of fans. Until we change this misconception, we are farting against thunder and our team will continually go backwards on the pitch and it will come to a day where it will be deemed sectarian if you say that you support Rangers. Now Thatââ?¬â?¢s What I Call Sectarian Beep, Beep here comes the offended bus with Timmy as driver and Jhoke McConnell as ticket collector. After our narrow, but enjoyable victory of the forces of evil, it appears that Timmy, with help from his cohorts in parliament and the media have found a whole lot of new stuff to be offended by ; The Bouncy ââ?¬â?? although been done for years by Bears, Timmy has informed everyone whoââ?¬â?¢ll listen that it celebrates a murder of a catholic in Belfast. The Union Flag ââ?¬â?? yip, the only country in the world where the flag of foreign countries is more welcome and less ââ?¬Ë?offensiveââ?¬â?¢ than OUR OWN flag The National Anthem ââ?¬â?? 90,000 Irish men and woman stood in respect of GSTQ at Crooke Park ââ?¬â?? pity the plastic paddies at Parkhead donââ?¬â?¢t have the same respect as those they claim to ââ?¬Ë?portrayââ?¬â?¢ Punch a Pape ââ?¬â?? No, not one of Stu Francis catchphrases from Crackerjack but apparently a past time of all us big bad Presbyterians Kill A ****** Before I die ââ?¬â?? a song that lives only in Timmyââ?¬â?¢s head. The Dam-busters ââ?¬â?? No sorry, its not the Dam-busters that weââ?¬â?¢ve been doing for years, this is a new version that is done to offend Nakard-motor. Honestly, if Timââ?¬â?¢s didnââ?¬â?¢t exist you couldnââ?¬â?¢t make them up. But this is what we are up against. These lies are printed on craptic websites and picked up by journalists and the next thing we know, they are making news headlines and taken as FACT. What does our club do about it? Nothing, they shrug their shoulders and hope that by not denying these lies, that the public will not listen to the peddlers of hate. It is time that we realised that this mob of bigots (as that is what they are) will be offended by ANYTHING that we do or say (think I am paranoid? then care to explain how one goes about cutting grass into a ââ?¬Ë?sash designââ?¬â?¢?). If we donââ?¬â?¢t fight back highlighting their hypocrisy and their agendas then folks it wonââ?¬â?¢t be long until it is ââ?¬Ë?offensiveââ?¬â?¢ to walk down the street wearing a Rangers top. Cammy F

Has anyone read the report that cardinal o'brien and the moderator of the CoS are going to attend the of game on sunday in an effort to end sectarianism/ learn each others perspective...or whatever? The same 2 people that couldnt attend the of game at ibrox for fear of crowd unrest. No such fears at cp it seems and this is yet another example of the great strides ra shellik are taking in this area.... so what we have is.... Ibrox.....full of sectarian savages who'd attack men of the cloth even in their buffeted cosy directors area. cp....welcoming of all regardless of faith...come and see how fair and unbiased the wonderful fans are...shame about the blue corner. So, is it just me seeing conspiracies or is this all part of the drip drip effect that seeks to put all the blame of sectarianism at our door?

Now added to archive: - Current squad info (First team and Reserves/Youth) - Ibrox Stadium background and pics - COMPLETED - Murray Park background and pics - COMPLETED - Full Managerial Stats (work ongoing) - Full Rangers player history (work ongoing) - Past results and stats (season by season) - COMPLETED - Key Event Timeline - (work ongoing) - Final League Tables (season by season) - COMPLETED - Other Competition Winners (season by season) - COMPLETED - Full Rangers Honours List - COMPLETED - Media Downloads (season by season) - Recommended Reading and Bibliography (work ongoing) http://www.gersnetonline.net/newsite/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=31 Then over the next week I'll be creating a year by year timeline with all the crucial info in one easy to read section. Started work on this now. The longer project is the actual 'Rangers Story' of which the first part is currently available. That will take a bit longer to write and finish. Hoping to have the site back on Newsnow in the next 14 days. They are very busy with new site submissions so we just have to wait in the queue. When we are accepted more Gersnet Analysis will be appearing again and I'll also be buying a new domain name for the archive. Thanks to gribz for continuing the excellent match previews and if anyone else wants to upload any articles please give me a shout by pm. Coupled with forthcoming advertisements in the 2 main fanzines (as well as The Rangers Historian) hopefully we'll be back on our way to building the forum as it was last year and previously. Thanks again for your continued support and I'm sure all this hard work will be worth it!

Good if he is a doubt and hopefully there confidence will be low coming into this game

This is pretty out of the blue

I've just signed up for an event where I'd like to use the opportunity to raise some money for charity through sponsorship. I was wondering if anyone knows where to start when it comes to the Gers, I was thinking about asking them to see if they could donate a signed ball or strip that I could then auction for example?

Too lazy to type the quote into the thread title. Football Diary: The best of British The Telegraph. By Martin Smith Last Updated: 1:32am GMT 02/03/2007 When Jeff Randall responded to a throw-away question in a Q&A for the Radio 5 Live website, little did he expect to have the answer repeated in two-foot high letters on a banner spanning half the width of the Copland Stand at Ibrox. Asked which team he supported, the BBC's Business News presenter said: "Glasgow Rangers...they are the quintessential British club." It was immediately pounced upon by The Blue Order, a collection of die-hard Rangers fans dedicated to making Ibrox a loud, fun and intimidating arena, and their banner duly made its debut at the Uefa Cup tie against Hapoel Tel Aviv last week. "It was not really a throw-away line because I meant it," says Randall (pictured), The Daily Telegraph's editor at large. advertisement "Quintessential means the very essence, something in its purest form. And the thing about Rangers, it is based in Scotland, but first and foremost it is a British club. A lot of fans come over from Northern Ireland to support, and a lot of English fans, too. Like Barcelona, it is mas que un club [more than a club]: it stands for something in society. It embraces the whole concept of the union of the United Kingdom, and if you go to Ibrox you'll see the union flag is the one flying highest above the stadium." South of the border, Randall supports West Ham; but that's a different story.

I made my way up from Reading for the Tel Aviv game on thursday, with my missus- her first ever game at Ibrox (I'm trying to convert her ) anyway we travelled all the way up, booked into a hotel, and got there early and were enjoying the building atmosphere. We were in the Copland rear, right behind the goal and about half way up, great seats. about 20 minutes before kick off, a couple comes up to us and says excuse me but you're in our seats. we all got our tickets out and discovered that me and the missus were in the right seats, but they were the couple's season ticket seats. we all went and saw the nearest steward and tried to sort it out, the first thing he did was send the couple back to the seats and told me and my missus to follow him. Was beginning to get a bit pissed off at this point. He told us to wait in the concourse whilst he looked for his supervisor, which took him ages, all the while we were missing the build up to the game having travelled hundreds of miles for the game. he finally came back and said he couldn't find his supervisor and had to go make a phone call, but at this point the woman of the couple whose seats we were in had come down to try and help and she basically had a go at this guy until he FINALLY used his radio to get his boss and they managed to find us 2 seats together in the copland front, right near the pitch, great for the atmosphere but the view was awful compared to the seats we'd paid for. Luckily, we won and it was a great game, but how ridiculous is it that the ticket office can double book seats in this day and age? I was livid, the stewards were unhelpful and slow in doing anything, and it left my missus with a poor image of rangers. well done ticket office

Firstly, I'm defining success as being still in Europe after Christmas and I'm talking about the media and general public taking it for granted. I'm fed up hearing about how poor Tel Aviv were from the media. Yes, they played poorly, but every time Scotland play or we come up against an unknown side in Europe, we hear that there's no such thing as an easy game in Europe. So after losing 2-1 in the first leg and destroying them at home in a superb display, I see lots of negative comments in the media and from people on forums, at work etc saying that we were playing a crappy team. Very little was said about just how well Rangers played. Besides, if I remember rightly, it wasn't too long ago that pundits were moaning consistently about the OF in Europe. How we were a disgrace for signing lots of foreigners and never managing to make it past Christmas in Europe. Every season the whinging from the usual characters was the same. They even complained that it was our fault the national team was going downhill and because we were always winning the league, no-one else was getting a chance to experience European football. And now? Suddenly they've forgotten all of the above. Rangers in Europe after Christmas? Nothing special apparently. 9 Scots starting? Hardly mentioned. A powerful victory to get through to the last 16? Weak opposition. I don't think there's a particular agenda in the Scottish media against us as every club's fans think the press has it in for their own club, but I do believe the industry is full of lazy journalists, some of whom do have their own unique views about us. These guys will never give us due credit for results on the pitch and even any attempts to improve the issues we have off the pitch. The just seem intent on spewing forth any nonsense in the name of a headline. Has anyone seen McNee's comments about the bouncy, which he's chosen to print again today for example? The Billy Boys is banned and after a few shaky matches, its gone. That should have been a monumental step forward for the club and been heralded from all corners of the press, public and even Holyrood. But there's been barely a murmur about it. Instead, we get even more negative stories about the remaining songs we're singing. The remaining songs, which don't contain even a trace of an *** and have been given the all-clear by UEFA. They're considered folk songs and shouldn't be offending anyone, so why are they constantly mentioned in newspaper reports and by other fans? More to the point, why isn't the club doing more to promote to the press about the good things we've achieved? Bain finally said some positive things about the support this week, but that's well overdue. When the infamous red hand salute raised its head again, why didn't the club come out with a very strong line? Firstly, name & shame the guys in Israel and ban them. How about pointing out that in this case, it really is a minority of fans involved? How about saying that the club will take a zero tolerance approach to this and ensuring that anyone doing it from now on is ejected from the ground? (I understand that this would involve the polis and stewards actually growing a spine and doing their job for a change). Bain could even have come out and quoted articles which we've all seen, which seem to prove that there is no such thing as a red hand salute. Lets educate the fans who still think they're just upholding the history and tradition of our club before taking the heavy handed approach outlined above. Why don't the men at the top of our club stand up for us in the public eye? With the press. With parliament. With other clubs and their fans ffs. Its not difficult. Most fans of other clubs don't like us as a club or a support. So there's nothing to lose. Week in week out we take a slagging and no-one stands to fight our corner. Part of the problem is that we live in such a paranoid and parochial-minded country that success does breed a hell of a lot of jealousy. The recent comments from Romanov about corruption within the game have shown exactly that. What should be dismissed as the mad ramblings of someone who is too used to getting their own way, are actually greeted by lots of fans as relief that someone is actually standing up to the OF and telling it as it is. What do we do in response? Not very much as it happens. Given the down-sizing that's been happening at Ibrox over the past 5 years or so, I think the loyalty shown by the fans has been tremendous. I think its now time for the men at the top of the club to repay some of that loyalty, show they have a set of balls and start standing up for the club we all love. Man, where did all that come from? Time for a lie down I think.

just some of the comments made in various sources: and i'm sure a few more will follow. all the incentive needed surely for a similar atmosphere next european night!

On Thursday, we have as an important part to play in proceedings as any of the players lukily enough to be representing Rangers in this crucial match. Lets make sure that we are on our European best on Thursday and get behind the players from the first minute to the last. LETS GET IBROX BOUNCIN' Cammy F

Donââ?¬â?¢t know if anyone has noticed a ââ?¬Ë?political bannerââ?¬â?¢ that has been present at the previous two Rangers matches (Killie away, Falkirk at home)? It bears the legend ââ?¬Ë?End Bigotry Now ââ?¬â?? Donââ?¬â?¢t Vote Labourââ?¬â?¢ (or something similar). Now, not knowing the people behind the banner, I would assume that this serves two purposes, sticking 2 fingers up to Joke McConnell and the Catholic mafia that run Scottish Labour, and being somewhat tongue in cheek. Anyway, it appears that Lawrence ââ?¬Ë?Larryââ?¬â?¢ McIntyre has taken offence at the banner and had it removed from the Copland Front on Sunday and has invited its owners to a meeting in his office. Now, lets take away whether you actually agree with the sentiment of the banner (I agree with it!), but is there to take offence to? It appears that Larry is quite happy to accommodate Timmy with their ââ?¬Ë?politicalââ?¬â?¢ songs and banners at Ibrox, as well as, to a lesser extent Abergreen. If you will, Iââ?¬â?¢d like to digress here for a while and examine the tangled web woven by Timmyââ?¬â?¢s political stance. They happily sing ââ?¬Ë?political songsââ?¬â?¢ in support of a racist, murdering gang yet portray themselves as ââ?¬Ë?socialistsââ?¬â?¢. They campaign for a United Ireland, yet support a region of Spain who want independence from Spain (and who will use murderous tactics to gain this independence ââ?¬â?? oh wait, is there a theme developing here?). Also, to a man, theyââ?¬â?¢ll vote for a unionist party here in Scotland / UK????? They will happily fly the Cuban Flag for Castro, along side photos of the Kennedy Clan ââ?¬â?? WTF, surely not even the twisted and bitter mind of a Yahoo can support both Castro and the Kennedyââ?¬â?¢s? You bet they canââ?¬Â¦. You think this is unfathomable, well, could anyone explain how a Yahoo can fly both the flag of the Vatican and the Che Guevara flags? Old Che would be spinning in his graveââ?¬Â¦ Anyway, back to my point, if I can remember what it wasââ?¬Â¦. Oh, aye, what is Larryââ?¬â?¢s thinking? His boss is no lover of the Labour Party, so does the ex-cop have a hidden agenda here, or is he just a knobend? I think a bit of both. A little postscript to this ââ?¬Ë?politicalââ?¬â?¢ thread, your old mukka Cammy was ââ?¬Ë?chasedââ?¬â?¢ from Ibrox in the 80ââ?¬â?¢s for naively, nay stupidly making a ââ?¬Ë?political statementââ?¬â?¢ in the guise of a Sex Pistols ââ?¬Ë?God Save The Queenââ?¬â?¢ t-shirt and Iââ?¬â?¢ll admit that Larry wasnââ?¬â?¢t the one who ââ?¬Ë?chasedââ?¬â?¢ meââ?¬Â¦.:admin: Cammy F ââ?¬â?? Donââ?¬â?¢t Vote Catholic Mafia Controlled Labour

Good luck to Andy and hopefully we will see him in action before the season ends

Continuing from my other thread, Walter has a few months to decide the Ins and Outs of the team but mainly who he thinks wont cut it at Ibrox. Firstly Walter has let two flops go (Letizi and JRod) although Jrod performed in occassion last season. But he was average at best (despite him getting a france call up). Its a shame Weir is 36 and Ehiogu is 34, but i think we can get 2 good years out of Ugo. We need Gavin Rae to move on, he is well out his depth in the SPL never mind in a Rangers shirt. Id also let Nacho Novo go. He has been a good servant and gave 200% but he cant repeat his 25 goal season from a few years back. We also have Prso playing for another year but the jury is out with Sebo as he asnt had a chance. Id like Lee McCulloch and Scott Brown in and an experienced goal scorer.

Going by what I have seen of him so far, I'd move him on as quickly as possible. Didn't make it to Ibrox today and had to make do with listening to it on the radio. The impression I got from the commentary was that Rangers looked a bit shakier at the back when Papac came on but I've read on other forums that he played not too bad. What's the general consensus on here?