Boyd agrees Boro move

[johnnyk 158]

Even after he's gone, people will still defend Boyd about absolutely everything

 

have you really thought about what you're posting?

 

if he went to celtic then we'd all be annoyed but he's away to a team down south that just happen to be managed by someone who was at celtic a few years ago and some ex celtic players.

 

he's gone good luck to him, i think he'll regret it but it's his choice, there really is nothing to defend IMO.

[Guest Flying Hippo]

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[Zappa 0]

He'll be playing in a better league than the SPL (Danny already mentioned this).

 

If they gain promotion to the EPL, he'll be playing in one of the top 5 leagues in Europe.

 

He's close enough to home that his family can stay in Scotland and just visit regularly.

 

Boro could be a good stepping-stone for him if he scores a lot of goals.

 

It could make or break his career.

 

I'd bet that a good few of the Gers fans giving him abuse for this move didn't even want him to stay at Rangers.

 

He got dogs abuse while he was racking up goals for us and finishing SPL top scorer year after year.

 

Now he's getting abuse for going to Boro because it's a team managed by an x-celtic manager who didn't even like the Celtic fans, but has taken a few celtic players down there.

 

What's the point in being all hot and bothered about it when it's done and dusted? Boyd isn't a Rangers player any more, he's a Boro player and that's pretty much the end of it unless he comes back to Ibrox.

 

I was a big Boyd fan, have never been a WGS fan (far from it in fact, although he's quite funny at times), but I'm not bothered in the slightest by Boyd's move other than the fact that I'd rather he'd stayed here and signed a deal with us.

 

Anyone who thinks Boyd's move is disrespectful to Rangers is living in la la land IMO, but that's just an opinion and it's notable that Boyd stayed when most Gers fans thought he was off to Brum, after which, a season and a half passed by which seen us win 2 SPL titles with his undervalued help.

[johnnyk 158]

What about you yourself Johnny? Would you turn down �£18,000 to play for your boyhood heroes if a former Celtic manager offered you �£7000 more? I can't believe i'm actually having to defend myself for being pissed off at this. It is a completely understandable reaction to anyone who isn't Kris Boyd first, Rangers second

 

everyones different and you dont really know why he's gone. I wouldn't or would like to hope I wouldn't go for more money and don't understand why he has gone but he's been here a few years and is the SPLs top scorer maybe he needed a change but at least he can say he's played for his boyhood team for 4/5 years and been top scorer every year. not many players can say that can they? we'll miss him but he's gone and i don't care where to, we must move on why worry about where he has went to?

 

look at scott brown, meant to have swayed towards rangers when he was younger and at the last minute got more money from celtic so went there, money can easily change peoples mind and you don't know what it would do to you unless you have been in that position.........

[wabashcannonball 0]

With thanks to Screebs, well researched m8 and thanks for your research.

 

Kris Boyd - the Stats in his time at Ibrox

 

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Stats now updated to end of season 2009/10

 

Overall

191 Games (incl 40 sub appearances)

128 Goals (28 Pens)

1 Quintuple

7 Hat-tricks

21 Doubles

played 13,169 minutes for Rangers = 1 goal per 102.88 minutes

77 Goals at Ibrox, 45 goals away and 6 at Hampden.

Only missed one game through suspension during his time at Ibrox (Motherwell a - 30 July 2006)

Missed 12 games through injury - 5 in the period 9/12/06 to 27/12/06 incl, the CL match v Seville (a) and then 6 in period 16/1/2010 to 30/1/2010.

Has only played a full 90 (or 120) minutes on 80 occasions

Has been an unused sub 33 times - all under Walter Smith.

Has played in 191 out of Rangers 240 competitive games since he came to Ibrox. In the 191 competitive matches that Boyd has appeared, Rangers have scored 368 goals, so Boyd's 128 goals represents 34.78% of the clubs goals.

His longest run of starts for Rangers was 16 games from 28 Oct 08 to 17 Jan 09.

His longest run of consecutive scoring matches was 4 - he has done this twice. First time was the last 2 matches of PLG's tenure, Durrant's only game in charge, and Smith's first game in charge. Second time was more recently (St Johnstone 17/10/09, Hibs 24/10/09, St Mirren 7/11/09 and Killie 21/11/09).

His longest run without a goal since moving to Rangers was 7 games and this happened twice during his Rangers career (12/9/09 to 4/10/09 incl and 10/2/10 to 21/3/10 incl).

 

 

In Europe

19 European Games, 3 Goals (1 of which was a pen)

14 games was either sub (8) or was subbed (6). Only 5 games started and completed - 1 in CL (stuttgart 24/11/09 and 4 in Uefa).

19 games = 7 loses, 7 draws and 5 wins.

978 minutes of action in Europe

Average number of minutes on the field - 51 minutes.

Least minutes on field = 1 minute v Villareal (H)

Scored pen against Livorno (A)

2 goals from open play in Europe where v Auxerre (a) and Hapoel (H)

Was an unused sub in the 6 consecutive Uefa Cup matches in season 2007/2008 prior to the final.

Started all the European games (5) under Paul le Guen

Has only started in one CL group match. Indeed, has only played 143 minutes in 5 matches in the CL proper. And 89 minutes in total in 3 CL qualifying matches.

Missed one European match through injury - Seville away (9/12/09)

Has never scored after coming on as a sub in a European match (7 games).

 

 

In League

142 games, incl 25 sub appearances.

101 goals, incl 22 Pens

Won 92, Drew 31 and Lost 19.

Has scored 7 goals after coming on as a sub, all were in matches that we won by 2 goals or more, with the exception of Hearts at Tynecastle on 23/8/09.

65 goals at Ibrox and 36 away.

 

Boyd had 63 SPL goals for Killie, when combined with the 101 scored for Rangers, he has a total of 164. This is an SPL record and breaks the Martians SPL record of 158 goals.

 

Season by Season at Rangers across all competitions

2005/06 - 21 games (4 as sub), 20 goals (2 Pens), 10 complete games.

2006/07 - 44 games (8 as sub), 26 goals (8 pens), 22 complete games

2007/08 - 41 games (16 as sub), 25 goals (5 pens), 10 complete games

2008/09 - 46 games (6 as sub), 31 goals (7 pens), 23 complete games

2009/10 - 39 games (12 as sub), 26 goals (6 pens), 15 complete games

 

 

SPL v Each team

 

V Aberdeen = 15 SPL games incl 6 as sub, 7 goals, missed 2 game (1 through injury and 1 as unused sub). Won 6, Drew 5 Lost 4. 1 Hat trick. 828 minutes played in total v Aberdeen in SPL.

 

V Celtic = 9 SPL games incl 1 as sub, 1 goal (no pens), Missed 9 games - 6 as unused sub, 2 not in squad but available and 1 through injury. Won 4, Drew 2 Lost 3. 639 minutes played in total v Celtic in SPL.

 

V Dundee United = 15 SPL games incl 5 as sub, 14 goals (1 pen), Missed 1 game as unused sub. 1 Quintuple, 1 hat-trick and 1 double. Won 8 Drew 5 Lost 2. 954 minutes played v DU in SPL.

 

V Dunfermline = 4 SPL games incl 2 as sub, 1 goal (no pens). Won 3 and Drew 1. 255 minutes played v DA in SPL.

 

V Falkirk = 12 SPL games incl 2 as sub, 11 goals (2 pens). Scored on both sub apps. Won 11 and Drew 1.Two doubles. 817 minutes played v Falkirk in SPL.

 

V Gretna = 2 SPL games incl 1 as sub, 2 goals (1 pen). Won 2. Missed 1 game as unused sub. 105 minutes played v Gretna in SPL.

 

V Hamilton = 5 SPL games, 7 goals (2 Pens). 1 hat trick and 2 double. Won 5. 410 minutes played v Accies in SPL.

 

V Hearts = 15 SPL games, 7 goals (3 pens). 2 Doubles. Won 10, drew 3 and Lost 2. Missed 2 games (1 as unused sub and 1 through injury). 1088 minutes played v Hearts in SPL.

 

V Hibs = 13 SPL games (incl 2 as sub), 7 goals. 1 double. Won 7, drew 4 and lost 2. Missed 4 games, 4 as unused sub and 1 through injury. 970 minutes played v Hibs in SPL

 

V ICT = 8 SPL games (incl 1 as sub), 8 goals. 1 hat trick and 2 doubles. Won 5, drew 1 and lost 2. Missed 2 games - 1 as unused sub and 1 through injury. 560 minutes played v ICT in SPL.

 

V Killie = 14 SPL games (no subs), 14 goals incl 5 pens. 1 hat trick and 2 doubles. Won 11, drew 2 and lost 1. 1148 minutes played v Killie in SPL

 

V Livingston = 1 SPL game, 2 goals (no pens). 1 double - obviously! Won 1. 80 minutes played v Livvy in SPL.

 

V Motherwell = 15 SPL games inc 2 sub apps, 10 goals (3 pens). 1 double. Won 8 Drew 7. Missed 1 game through suspension. 1143 minutes played v Motherwell in SPL.

 

V St Johnstone = 3 SPL games, 3 goals (1 pen). Won 2, Drew 0, Lost 1. 216 minutes played v St Johnstone in the SPL.

 

V St Mirren = 11 SPL games, 7 goals (1 pen). Won 9 Drew 1 lost 1. 899 minutes played v St Mirren in SPL.

 

 

 

SPL v TOP SIX teams (up to and including season 09/10) = 73 games (incl 15 as sub), 44 goals (9 pens). Of those 73 games, 36 were away from home where his record is 36 games (incl 10 sub apps) and 16 goals (4 pens)

 

In League Cup

12 matches incl 2 sub apps.

9 goals incl 1 Pen.

Won 10 (incl 1 on Pens), Lost 2 (1 AET)

No hat-tricks, 2 doubles.

Scored 2 goals after coming on as sub.

Has only missed 3 games in League Cup during his time at Ibrox - unused sub v Hearts LCSF 30/1/08 and Dundee 27/10/09, injured v St Johnstone 3/2/10.

1 goal at Ibrox, 5 away and 3 at Hampden.

 

V Dunfermline 1 goal, won.

V St Johnstone (2 games) 0 goals, won 1 and lost 1.

V East Fife 2 goals (1 pen). Game won.

V Motherwell 1 goal. Game won.

V Dundee Utd (LCF) 2 goals after coming on as sub

V Partick 1 goal. Game won.

V Hamilton 1 goal. Game won.

v Falkirk 1 goal. Game won.

v Celtic 0 goals. Came on as sub. Game Lost.

v QotS 0 goals. Game won.

v St Mirren 0 goals. game won.

 

 

In Scottish Cup

18 matches incl 5 sub apps.

15 goals incl 4 Pen.

Won 10, Drew 5, Lost 3

2 hat-tricks, 3 doubles.

Hasn't scored any goals after coming on as sub.

Only missed 2 games in Scottish Cup during his time at Ibrox - not in squad v St Johnstone SCSF 20/4/08 and Hamilton 19/1/10 (injury).

10 goals at Ibrox, 2 away and 3 at Hampden.

 

V Peterhead, Hat-trick (1 pen). Game won.

V Hibs (3 games incl 2 as sub), 0 goals. Won 1, Drew 1 and Lost 1.

V Dunfermline, 2 goals. Game lost.

V East Stirling, 3 goals (1 pen). Game won.

V Partick (2 games), 1 goal. 1 draw and 1 win.

V Queen of the South, 2 goals. Game won (SCF).

V Forfar, 0 goals. Game won.

V Hamilton (2 games), 1 start and 1 sub appearance. 0 goals. 1 win and 1 draw

V St Mirren, 1 goal. Game won (SCSF)

V Falkirk, 0 goals. Game won (SCF)

V Hamilton, 0 goals. Draw

V St Mirren, 0 goals. Draw

V St Mirren, 1 goal. Game won.

V Dundee Utd, 2 goals (pens). Draw.

V Dundee Utd, 0 goals. Game lost.

 

 

 

Under the managers

Eck - 21 matches, 20 goals inc 2 Pens. 17 starts and 4 sub appearances. Only played 10 full games and was taken off in 7 games. Won 13, Drew 5 and Lost 3. 2 Hat-tricks and 4 doubles. Missed 0 competitive games under McLeish. Averaged 70 minutes per game (exc Injury time).

 

PLG - 25 matches, 13 goals inc 6 Pens. 18 starts and 7 sub appearances. Only played 10 full games and was taken off in 8 games. Won 12, Drew 7 and Lost 6. No Hat-tricks and 2 doubles. Missed 6 competitive games under PLG (1 susp and 5 injury). Averaged 68 minutes per game (exc Injury time).

 

Durrant - 1 match, 2 goals. 1 start. Lost 1. One double. Played whole 90 mins. Missed 0 competitive games under Durrant.

 

Smith (as at end 2009/2010 season) - 144 matches, 93 goals inc 20 pens. 115 starts and 29 sub appearances. Won 92 (incl 1 on pens), Drew 31 and Lost 21 (inc 1 AET). 1 quintuple, 5 Hat-tricks and 14 doubles. Sub or subbed in 85 games, only played 59 complete games. Missed 43 competitive games under Smith - 33 as unused sub and 3 not in squad but available for selection and 7 through injury. Averages 68.75 minutes per game (excl injury time).

[Gazza_8 233]

Are you honestly saying that when Cuellar left us to join Aston Villa, the fact he was leaving Rangers to play under Martin O'Neill was totally irrelevant to you?

 

I don't expect the players to care, but the fans should imo

 

I never even gave that a 2nd thought. Now that you have mentioned Cuellar playing under MON at Aston Villa, I still couldn't care less.

 

By the way, I'd play for Celtic for 25k a week. Supporting my family is far more important than who I play for. Football is a game, it's entertainment, it's not a matter or life and death as Shankly once said.

[Guest Flying Hippo]

Boydy and his family would've starved on that �£18,000 a week 3 year contract right enough

[Gazza_8 233]

Boydy and his family would've starved on that �£18,000 a week 3 year contract right enough

 

Of course he/they wouldn't.

 

He wanted an even better standard of living for his family. Who wouldn't?

[Guest Flying Hippo]

Of course he/they wouldn't.

 

He wanted an even better standard of living for his family. Who wouldn't?

 

This whole clambering to totally justify Boyd joining a pish team full of ex Tims is slightly strange given the dogs abuse Barry Ferguson got for leaving to play for Graeme Souness

[Gazza_8 233]

This whole clambering to totally justify Boyd joining a pish team full of ex Tims is slightly strange given the dogs abuse Barry Ferguson got for leaving to play for Graeme Souness

 

Like you I think Boyd has made the wrong decision in joining Boro. I'm not clambering in an attempt to justify why he did it, I'm simply trying saying that it doesn't bother me who he signs for, unlike you. I don't get what the big deal is about him joining a "pish team full of ex Tims".

 

I couldn't have cared if he signed for Juventus, Lyon, Valencia or Middlesboro.