Stefanovitch 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 If he's a good player then quite frankly I don't give a hoot whether he's eligible for the CL. We need a team capable of winning the league and qualifying for next seasons CL. The CL to us nowadays is nothing more than a source of income and I'd be content to see Miller and Lafferty playing midweek with this fella kept fit for the SPL. Having said all that it seems we've gone in with an offer well below their valuation so I'd be surprised if this was a goer - unless we do a Sebo and slowly increase our offer to what they actually want. Finally, how accurate is the report that because he's played a Europa League qualifier he's ineligible for the CL - different competitions I thought. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,153 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 If he's a good player then quite frankly I don't give a hoot whether he's eligible for the CL. We need a team capable of winning the league and qualifying for next seasons CL. The CL to us nowadays is nothing more than a source of income and I'd be content to see Miller and Lafferty playing midweek with this fella kept fit for the SPL. Having said all that it seems we've gone in with an offer well below their valuation so I'd be surprised if this was a goer - unless we do a Sebo and slowly increase our offer to what they actually want. Finally, how accurate is the report that because he's played a Europa League qualifier he's ineligible for the CL - different competitions I thought. With such a, erm, stream-lined squad; we can ill-afford players only to be available for certain games. Every player needs to be available as often as possible or the burden on guys like Davis, Miller and Bougherra will simply be too great. I'd like to think there are players of sufficient quality available that can play in Europe for us - as well as the SPL. Conversely I don't want the key guys playing in every game either but we need to have a squad that can compete no matter the competition. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 1,247 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 This is lifted directly from UEFA'S guidance to clubs , it's from the Europa league regulations section X , page 26 http://ua.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/UEFACup/84/52/89/845289_DOWNLOAD.pdf 18.07 As a rule, a player may not play in a UEFA club competition (i.e. UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, but not UEFA Super Cup) for more than one club in the course of the same season. Exceptionally, however, a player who has been fielded in the first, second or third qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League is entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League for another club as from the group stage, provided that his former club did not qualify for the group phase of either the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League; moreover, as from the start of the round of 32 (round of 16 for UEFA Champions League), a player can be registered in accordance with paragraphs 18.17 to 18.20 below. For the avoidance of doubt, a substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season, provided that he is registered with the UEFA administration in accordance with the present regulations. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,876 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I tend to agree with Stevanovich on this one. If he's a player we want to have longer term, and we have a chance of getting him, regardless of the possibility of him being ineligble for the CL (rbr's post aside), I say go for it! I take the point about needing a full squad to pick from, but would it really be so bad if we had a striker ready to roll at the weekend having had an enforced rest during the week? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Would be nice if we upped our bid and snapped this guy up. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metlika 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 He was quite good against them and seems to be decent enough. Shame about the CL ineligibility but I would have him if the money was right. He is in his last year of his contract as well so they shouldn't be able to hold out for stupid money and he plays in Austria not a hugely attractive league. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin3084 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 He was quite good against them and seems to be decent enough. Shame about the CL ineligibility but I would have him if the money was right. He is in his last year of his contract as well so they shouldn't be able to hold out for stupid money and he plays in Austria not a hugely attractive league. He is only 24 so u would have to think good sell on value aswell if he does come and do job! Also seen in the daily record today that were after James Beattie I think he would score goals up here but he is 32 and think Stoke was looking for about 1.5 mil which is a bit pricey for a 32 year old! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metlika 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 He is only 24 so u would have to think good sell on value aswell if he does come and do job! Also seen in the daily record today that were after James Beattie I think he would score goals up here but he is 32 and think Stoke was looking for about 1.5 mil which is a bit pricey for a 32 year old! That is a must with me as well young enough to have a good sell on value. Beattie, Harewood and Healy do not. Eagles would have if he joined but he didn't. I don't think his wage would be huge although he may want a huge wage but in current times I can't see him coming to us, sadly . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannochsidebear 2,316 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 This is lifted directly from UEFA'S guidance to clubs , it's from the Europa league regulations section X , page 26 http://ua.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/UEFACup/84/52/89/845289_DOWNLOAD.pdf 18.07 As a rule, a player may not play in a UEFA club competition (i.e. UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League, but not UEFA Super Cup) for more than one club in the course of the same season. Exceptionally, however, a player who has been fielded in the first, second or third qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League is entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League for another club as from the group stage, provided that his former club did not qualify for the group phase of either the UEFA Champions League or the UEFA Europa League; moreover, as from the start of the round of 32 (round of 16 for UEFA Champions League), a player can be registered in accordance with paragraphs 18.17 to 18.20 below. For the avoidance of doubt, a substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season, provided that he is registered with the UEFA administration in accordance with the present regulations. That was what I had thought the rule was, so yet again sloppy journos who cant be bothered to check facts. Basically if the guy plays in the qualys for the diddy cup with one team, then signs for the mighty to play in the big boys cup, he is eligable as long as his original team is out of europe. With 2 rounds to go before the group stages of both cups, there is obviously a chance that he would be eligable to play for the Scottish Champions in the big boys cup group stages. Dont know if the guy is any good, and was too busy laughing when his team scored against timmy last season to really notice one player, but as usual you read a story about a player we have bid for, with nothing but negativity surrounding it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisabeer 409 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Totally agree, don't see why would sign a player ineligible for European football! dont see what the problem is here...now we have the oppertunity to play kyle lafferty in his proper position!:fish: 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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